Critique my WC setup? Pros help me plz.

zee bee · 11-23-2004, 05:55 AM

First water cooling rig:
Athlon 3200+ (s939, 90nm) plan on heavy overclocking
6800GT (heavy overclocking, SLI when available)

Components:
DD TDX CPU block
Maze NB block
Maze 4 GPU block
2x DD Dual heater cores and shrouds.
DD 12v pump
1/2 ID tubing
Cheapo-style DD 5 1/4" bay resevoir

Flow schematics:
Pump>cpu>dual heater core 1>gpu>dual heater core 2>res>back to pump>ad infinitum

Add your thoughts, but here's one thing I would like clarified, specifically: is having twin dual heater cores worth it with what I am trying to do? Would I be better off w/ just one? Or should I do independent loops (loop1: cpu, nb; loop2: soon to be sli graphics cards).

Im using a Lian Li mid tower case, a pc6070, custom modded with a rectangle cut out for the heatercore on top, and I am gonna cut another one out on the bottom after removing the drive cages, that is, if it is even worth a damn. I know heatercores are best known for their non-restrictive flow, but would having 2 dual heater cores in one loop defeat the purpose. Again feel free to add whatever you want to the mix but try to address the heater core question if possible.

Thx.

zee bee · 11-23-2004, 04:46 PM

Is my question THAT stupid? :shrug:

Bigmack · 11-23-2004, 04:53 PM

No such thing as a stupid question,,, just stupid answers,,, pipe the heater cores in parallel after the pump and before the cpu.also pull outside air into the case through the heater cores. space the fans about 1" away from the cores with a shroud.

zee bee · 11-23-2004, 06:29 PM

like this big mack? (crappy picture warning)

I thought that parallel had no advantage to a series? I dont think I wanna do it this way, but if it is the most likely to give me the best results, I will try. I was planning on either 1) 1 loop, 2 HC series 2) 1 loop, 1 HC, 3) dual loops, pumps, HCs.

Anyone tried anything similar and wasnt to share their experience?
Thx

Bigmack · 11-23-2004, 07:05 PM

pump> hc's> blocks> res> pump. Having the heater cores in series adds unnecissary restriction to the loop. The north bridge really dosn't need water cooling, a good heat sink with a fan or passive cooling willwork just fine.(the advantage will be lowering the loop restriction even further)

edit: don't pressurize the res what ever you do!

zee bee · 11-23-2004, 07:10 PM

ok so i am nixing the NB sink. Won't splitting the tube to run parallel HCs lower the flow rate and restrict anyway? Thats why i thought it didnt matter series vs parallel

anyway, anything else? you think the dual HC's will be worth it?

Bigmack · 11-23-2004, 07:27 PM

use "y"s deigned for 5/8"tubing and strech the 1/2" inch id tubing over them. the added restriction will be very small.

Bigmack · 11-23-2004, 07:54 PM

Watercooling is quite a ballancing act. At this point all I can tell you is read, read, and read some more, After you think you have read enough, read it all again!!! There is a wealth of information in these pages. I have some of my work posted in these forums, my system is working adaquately, but compaired to a lot of the people in this forum I am a newborn N00B thrice over!!! Pay attention to Unregistered, pHaestus, jaydee116, cathar, and the rest of the professors of cooling!!!

Etacovda · 11-23-2004, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zee bee

ok so i am nixing the NB sink. Won't splitting the tube to run parallel HCs lower the flow rate and restrict anyway? Thats why i thought it didnt matter series vs parallel

anyway, anything else? you think the dual HC's will be worth it?

Chuck the NB block (especially since its a64 and the mem controller is on the cpu)

Plumb the heatcores in series - the performance should be better in series, and hey, its easier to plumb too.

zee bee · 11-23-2004, 08:06 PM

thx for taking the time to answer my questions big mack I am glad to be a part of this forum

Cranky · 11-23-2004, 08:22 PM

i run a HC and a BLpro dual in series after the cpu block myself. my GPU block has its own seperate loop.

11-23-2004, 05:55 AM	#1
zee bee Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 14	Critique my WC setup? Pros help me plz. First water cooling rig: Athlon 3200+ (s939, 90nm) plan on heavy overclocking 6800GT (heavy overclocking, SLI when available) Components: DD TDX CPU block Maze NB block Maze 4 GPU block 2x DD Dual heater cores and shrouds. DD 12v pump 1/2 ID tubing Cheapo-style DD 5 1/4" bay resevoir Flow schematics: Pump>cpu>dual heater core 1>gpu>dual heater core 2>res>back to pump>ad infinitum Add your thoughts, but here's one thing I would like clarified, specifically: is having twin dual heater cores worth it with what I am trying to do? Would I be better off w/ just one? Or should I do independent loops (loop1: cpu, nb; loop2: soon to be sli graphics cards). Im using a Lian Li mid tower case, a pc6070, custom modded with a rectangle cut out for the heatercore on top, and I am gonna cut another one out on the bottom after removing the drive cages, that is, if it is even worth a damn. I know heatercores are best known for their non-restrictive flow, but would having 2 dual heater cores in one loop defeat the purpose. Again feel free to add whatever you want to the mix but try to address the heater core question if possible. Thx.

11-23-2004, 04:53 PM	#3
Bigmack Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 60	No such thing as a stupid question,,, just stupid answers,,, pipe the heater cores in parallel after the pump and before the cpu.also pull outside air into the case through the heater cores. space the fans about 1" away from the cores with a shroud. __________________ A smart man won't brag about what he knows, but listens to others that may know something he dosen't.

11-23-2004, 07:05 PM	#5
Bigmack Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 60	pump> hc's> blocks> res> pump. Having the heater cores in series adds unnecissary restriction to the loop. The north bridge really dosn't need water cooling, a good heat sink with a fan or passive cooling willwork just fine.(the advantage will be lowering the loop restriction even further) edit: don't pressurize the res what ever you do! __________________ A smart man won't brag about what he knows, but listens to others that may know something he dosen't.

11-23-2004, 07:27 PM	#7
Bigmack Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 60	use "y"s deigned for 5/8"tubing and strech the 1/2" inch id tubing over them. the added restriction will be very small. __________________ A smart man won't brag about what he knows, but listens to others that may know something he dosen't.

11-23-2004, 07:54 PM	#8
Bigmack Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 60	Watercooling is quite a ballancing act. At this point all I can tell you is read, read, and read some more, After you think you have read enough, read it all again!!! There is a wealth of information in these pages. I have some of my work posted in these forums, my system is working adaquately, but compaired to a lot of the people in this forum I am a newborn N00B thrice over!!! Pay attention to Unregistered, pHaestus, jaydee116, cathar, and the rest of the professors of cooling!!! __________________ A smart man won't brag about what he knows, but listens to others that may know something he dosen't.

11-23-2004, 04:46 PM	#2
zee bee Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 14	Is my question THAT stupid? :shrug:

11-23-2004, 06:29 PM	#4
zee bee Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 14	like this big mack? (crappy picture warning) I thought that parallel had no advantage to a series? I dont think I wanna do it this way, but if it is the most likely to give me the best results, I will try. I was planning on either 1) 1 loop, 2 HC series 2) 1 loop, 1 HC, 3) dual loops, pumps, HCs. Anyone tried anything similar and wasnt to share their experience? Thx

11-23-2004, 07:10 PM	#6
zee bee Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 14	ok so i am nixing the NB sink. Won't splitting the tube to run parallel HCs lower the flow rate and restrict anyway? Thats why i thought it didnt matter series vs parallel anyway, anything else? you think the dual HC's will be worth it?

11-23-2004, 08:06 PM	#10
zee bee Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 14	thx for taking the time to answer my questions big mack I am glad to be a part of this forum

11-23-2004, 08:22 PM	#11
Cranky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: texas Posts: 92	i run a HC and a BLpro dual in series after the cpu block myself. my GPU block has its own seperate loop.

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