Foamy water??????

RickCain · 06-20-2002, 09:50 AM

I have been noticing that my water will begin to turn foamy after a week or so of use. Anyone know what causes this?

Using distilled water + water wetter

webmedic · 06-20-2002, 10:10 AM

What all is in your system? Parts? How is it setup?

ambient · 06-20-2002, 10:24 AM

do a search for foamy water. looks like its from air in your system. at least that is what 2 others had experienced.

gmat · 06-20-2002, 11:25 AM

Do you have an air trap or a res ? How the return line comes into that res / trap ? Is there any turbulence ?

Cyco-Dude · 06-20-2002, 07:56 PM

it could be the WW.............

jtroutma · 06-21-2002, 11:25 PM

I had foam once in my res. Turned out that with my res. setup so that the intake line was placed above the water line and WW in the coolant, the stuff would foam. I ignored it for a day and it jsut got worse. Tried capping the res. off to control the foam and cracked the bottle

Solution:

Moved the intake beneath the water line in the res.

Problem solved.

Make sure that you are not getting any air in the lines or causing enough turbulance to get air mixed into the coolant.

RickCain · 06-21-2002, 11:40 PM

yes.. the new danger den res I got a few weeks ago seems to be the problem. my system pumps way too much water for this res. there are tons of bubbles and water shoots from the inlet to the back of the res causing too many bubbles which get sucked into the outlet. I was using a weather tight 4S box last time and didn't have this problem since the inlet and outlet were at the bottom of that res. The danager den res is cool looking but the holes are iin the wrong place to make it work effectively.

Config right now
DD Maze2 <----- soon to be TC-4
1050 pump
dtek pro rad w/ dual 120mm fans @ 7volts
DD res <------ going back to the weather tight 4S box
silicon tubing <--------Tygon shipped today!!

*mat-ster* · 06-23-2002, 09:55 AM

Rick this DD Res is it the 3" by 3" new cube?

I can not find any pics of it but it looks to me like it's way too small for a high flow system!

I would ask for your money back!

webmedic · 06-24-2002, 09:27 AM

Finaly some info that is usable. When I first stated to make my systems I tried the inline pump with a res type of system. The results?

You will always get foam in you system. Either use a resevore with the pump mounted in it ( this will get rid of bubbles nicely and is easy to fill) or get rid of the resevore. The reason for this is that the the pumps produce to much turbulance in the res and therefore cause bubbles in your system. I've tried many different ways of doing this and the only way is to get rid of the res.

bigben2k · 06-24-2002, 09:36 AM

...or to come up with a good res that works...

gmat · 06-24-2002, 09:42 AM

or to mount the inlet properly on a tube-like res (i.e. either tangent, or using a T ala turbokeu). Tangent mount will produce a little vortex if you add a nozzle.

schoolie · 06-24-2002, 09:54 AM

The inside diameter of the fittings on the Danger Den res is too small. Larger inlet/outlet diameters will reduce the agitation in the res by reducing the water velocity.

RickCain · 06-24-2002, 10:24 AM

I agree that the res is way too small. 3" x 3" sounds about right. I was trying to get rid of all of the 90's in my system but might have created too much flow. The res has an outlet in the top 1/2 of the cube and the inlet is in the bottom 1/2 of the cube. The water is coming out with such force it splashes against the back of the cube causing bubbles. I will find a good use for it some day.

Cyco-Dude · 06-24-2002, 11:36 AM

small fish tank for fighting fish? oo, how about a small candy jar?? hehe

06-20-2002, 09:50 AM	#1
RickCain Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 110	Foamy water?????? I have been noticing that my water will begin to turn foamy after a week or so of use. Anyone know what causes this? Using distilled water + water wetter

06-20-2002, 10:10 AM	#2
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	What all is in your system? Parts? How is it setup? __________________ www.water-cool.com

06-20-2002, 10:24 AM	#3
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	do a search for foamy water. looks like its from air in your system. at least that is what 2 others had experienced. __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

06-21-2002, 11:25 PM	#6
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	I had foam once in my res. Turned out that with my res. setup so that the intake line was placed above the water line and WW in the coolant, the stuff would foam. I ignored it for a day and it jsut got worse. Tried capping the res. off to control the foam and cracked the bottle Solution: Moved the intake beneath the water line in the res. Problem solved. Make sure that you are not getting any air in the lines or causing enough turbulance to get air mixed into the coolant. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

06-21-2002, 11:40 PM	#7
RickCain Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 110	yes.. the new danger den res I got a few weeks ago seems to be the problem. my system pumps way too much water for this res. there are tons of bubbles and water shoots from the inlet to the back of the res causing too many bubbles which get sucked into the outlet. I was using a weather tight 4S box last time and didn't have this problem since the inlet and outlet were at the bottom of that res. The danager den res is cool looking but the holes are iin the wrong place to make it work effectively. Config right now DD Maze2 <----- soon to be TC-4 1050 pump dtek pro rad w/ dual 120mm fans @ 7volts DD res <------ going back to the weather tight 4S box silicon tubing <--------Tygon shipped today!! Last edited by RickCain; 06-21-2002 at 11:42 PM.

06-20-2002, 11:25 AM	#4
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Do you have an air trap or a res ? How the return line comes into that res / trap ? Is there any turbulence ?

06-20-2002, 07:56 PM	#5
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	it could be the WW.............

06-23-2002, 09:55 AM	#8
mat-ster Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 30	Rick this DD Res is it the 3" by 3" new cube? I can not find any pics of it but it looks to me like it's way too small for a high flow system! I would ask for your money back!

06-24-2002, 09:27 AM	#9
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Finaly some info that is usable. When I first stated to make my systems I tried the inline pump with a res type of system. The results? You will always get foam in you system. Either use a resevore with the pump mounted in it ( this will get rid of bubbles nicely and is easy to fill) or get rid of the resevore. The reason for this is that the the pumps produce to much turbulance in the res and therefore cause bubbles in your system. I've tried many different ways of doing this and the only way is to get rid of the res. __________________ www.water-cool.com

06-24-2002, 09:36 AM	#10
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	...or to come up with a good res that works... __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-24-2002, 09:42 AM	#11
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	or to mount the inlet properly on a tube-like res (i.e. either tangent, or using a T ala turbokeu). Tangent mount will produce a little vortex if you add a nozzle.

06-24-2002, 09:54 AM	#12
schoolie Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 120	The inside diameter of the fittings on the Danger Den res is too small. Larger inlet/outlet diameters will reduce the agitation in the res by reducing the water velocity.

06-24-2002, 10:24 AM	#13
RickCain Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 110	I agree that the res is way too small. 3" x 3" sounds about right. I was trying to get rid of all of the 90's in my system but might have created too much flow. The res has an outlet in the top 1/2 of the cube and the inlet is in the bottom 1/2 of the cube. The water is coming out with such force it splashes against the back of the cube causing bubbles. I will find a good use for it some day.

06-24-2002, 11:36 AM	#14
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	small fish tank for fighting fish? oo, how about a small candy jar?? hehe

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