which wc kit?

jag_e_fattig · 05-15-2002, 02:56 AM

I'm seriously considering watercooling, but i'm not exactly ready for a home-built system. (I can build stuff, but i don't have the guts to build something myself that has water in it

)

I've been loking at kits, and i've narrowed it down to the dtek, DD or swiftech kit. I'm leaning towards the swiftech kit with the mcw462-u water block.

deos anyone have any thoghts?

Brad · 05-15-2002, 04:43 AM

the swiftech can come in a case which makes it the easiest out of any of them, but the DDen is probably the best kit overall

gmat · 05-15-2002, 08:48 AM

D-Tek kit seems great as well.

UpAllNight · 05-15-2002, 09:13 AM

i agree with Brad i have been happy with my DD stuff

BobMont · 05-15-2002, 09:41 AM

DDen, but thats like building it yourself anyway, you gotta put it all to gether, erc. (if I'm not mistaken). It is a far supperior kit (Maze 3 + Eheim 1250 + Black Ice Extreme). But if you want the easiest, with stil good performance, I'd suggest the swiftech Q power (almost silent, and the Lite On case it comes in is nice, has 120mm fan spots)

DigitalChaos · 05-15-2002, 10:21 AM

quality, performance, upgradeability... i would have to say DangerDen... but i havent really used anything else =)

jag_e_fattig · 05-15-2002, 10:24 AM

you guys kind of misunderstood me; I'm not afraid of putting a something like the dd kit together, i just don't have the guts (or energy) to build a custom rig (i.e. making a block etc.).

The dd kit is probably the best kit for me, and the setup i want is a little cheaper than the swiftech.

bob, i definately don't need a new case. I just got a black chieftec full tower.

Cyco-Dude · 05-15-2002, 12:31 PM

dtek or DDen...ive got DDen stuff myself. if you are getting a kit, you might want to get it from Cooltechnica , as they;ld probably ship it faster (DDen takes about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks).

gmat · 05-15-2002, 12:36 PM

D-tek kit has a great rad with a nifty shroud.
DangerDen kit has a great block and a Eheim.
I'd mix some components

BobMont · 05-15-2002, 01:02 PM

Umm apparently I'm missing something. Do they actually make a Watercooling kit that comes fully assembled without a case?

Cyco-Dude · 05-15-2002, 05:51 PM

not that i know of. a 'kit' is just all the components you need to set up a watercooling system.
BeCooling also sells kits...

Nordic · 05-15-2002, 06:21 PM

I'd recommend buying the parts you need from either DangerDen or D-Tek. You should buy an Eheim 1048 from http://seame.com/ as you're a Swede like me

The 1048 only costs "485 kr inkl moms + frakt" from them which is a bargain, of course you have to pay with VISA or Mastercard but that's the easy part.

A DD system would consist of a Maze-3 and a Heater Core and you'd have to build yourself a shroud for the core but that's no biggie.

If you choose D-Tek they carry the amazing Gemini block which outperforms some other popular blocks:
http://www.overclockers.com/articles546/
I'd guess it's equal to or slightly better than the Maze-3.
D-Tek also carries some excellent heater cores with shrouds to save you some work.

The shipping from D-Tek is a little high, 60$ for USPS is not cheap.. DD would charge you $25 so it should be accounted for when you make your decision.

Additionally, purchase some water wetter to prevent corrosion and improve cooling efficiency, and go with silicon or tygon tubing and 1/2" on all parts.. that is 9 mm ID. 3/8" is only 7 mm ID.

BobMont · 05-15-2002, 06:41 PM

As for the Danger Den, if you do go with them, I'd recommedn the Black Ice Extreme instead of the Cooling Cube.

Nordic · 05-15-2002, 06:56 PM

I just noticed that DangerDen carries my favourite 120 mm fan for a reasonable price. Check it out on the radiator page:
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/radiators.asp

deeznuts · 05-16-2002, 12:41 AM

$21 is a reasonable price? my 120mm panaflo m1A at 7v is dead silent, and costs me $5 hehe. actually i have two of them.

jag_e_fattig · 05-16-2002, 03:18 AM

I'm probably gonna get this stuff from DD:

Maze 3 AMD
Black ice extreme
Papst 120mm
Eheim 1048
7 feet tygon
4oz water wetter
10 hose clamps and T-fitting

Im gonna order all the stuff when i'm on vacation in MA, so overseas shipping isn't an issue. just one question; does the 1048 have 1/2" fittings?

Brad · 05-16-2002, 05:15 AM

it's on DDen's site

jag_e_fattig · 05-16-2002, 05:56 AM

hehe, i guess i didn't look hard enough

does that mean i'm going to have to get the 1250 with 1/2" instead? or can i just mod 1/2" fittings on to the 1048?

gmat · 05-16-2002, 05:59 AM

Eheim provide adapters specifically designed for their pumps. Ask your local pet shop they usually carry those items.

Nordic · 05-16-2002, 12:17 PM

The Eheim 1048 comes with 1/2" (13 mm) hose connections on both the suction and pressure side. Works great with 1/2" tubing (9 mm ID), slightly too large for 3/8" tubing unless you're using silicon or tygon which stretches.

jag_e_fattig · 05-16-2002, 12:54 PM

cool! thanks alot guys!

AL666 · 05-17-2002, 01:54 AM

Well no one mentioned cooltechnica but you can get the very same kit with a DD MAze3 from cooltechnica.com for a better price.
Check here: http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...egory_Code=WCK

Cyco-Dude · 05-17-2002, 04:29 AM

i did; look up ^

FRAGN'STIEN · 05-18-2002, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AL666
Well no one mentioned cooltechnica but you can get the very same kit with a DD MAze3 from cooltechnica.com for a better price.
Check here: http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...egory_Code=WCK

Thats where I bought mine. Awsome service. The only problem was thier on the east coast and I'm out west so it took a month of sundays to get here

Avatar28 · 05-18-2002, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nordic

The shipping from D-Tek is a little high, 60$ for USPS is not cheap.. DD would charge you $25 so it should be accounted for when you make your decision.

Additionally, purchase some water wetter to prevent corrosion and improve cooling efficiency, and go with silicon or tygon tubing and 1/2" on all parts.. that is 9 mm ID. 3/8" is only 7 mm ID.

Check with Danny. He's using UPS now for shipping, so he may be able to get you a better price on shipping by using UPS now. I'd definitely check with him on it.

Also, he carries Tygon tubing now so if you order from him, you could go ahead and order that while you're at it.

05-15-2002, 02:56 AM	#1
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	which wc kit? I'm seriously considering watercooling, but i'm not exactly ready for a home-built system. (I can build stuff, but i don't have the guts to build something myself that has water in it) I've been loking at kits, and i've narrowed it down to the dtek, DD or swiftech kit. I'm leaning towards the swiftech kit with the mcw462-u water block. deos anyone have any thoghts? __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

05-15-2002, 04:43 AM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	the swiftech can come in a case which makes it the easiest out of any of them, but the DDen is probably the best kit overall __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-15-2002, 09:13 AM	#4
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	i agree with Brad i have been happy with my DD stuff __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-15-2002, 10:24 AM	#7
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	you guys kind of misunderstood me; I'm not afraid of putting a something like the dd kit together, i just don't have the guts (or energy) to build a custom rig (i.e. making a block etc.). The dd kit is probably the best kit for me, and the setup i want is a little cheaper than the swiftech. bob, i definately don't need a new case. I just got a black chieftec full tower. __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

05-15-2002, 06:21 PM	#12
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	I'd recommend buying the parts you need from either DangerDen or D-Tek. You should buy an Eheim 1048 from http://seame.com/ as you're a Swede like me The 1048 only costs "485 kr inkl moms + frakt" from them which is a bargain, of course you have to pay with VISA or Mastercard but that's the easy part. A DD system would consist of a Maze-3 and a Heater Core and you'd have to build yourself a shroud for the core but that's no biggie. If you choose D-Tek they carry the amazing Gemini block which outperforms some other popular blocks: http://www.overclockers.com/articles546/ I'd guess it's equal to or slightly better than the Maze-3. D-Tek also carries some excellent heater cores with shrouds to save you some work. The shipping from D-Tek is a little high, 60$ for USPS is not cheap.. DD would charge you $25 so it should be accounted for when you make your decision. Additionally, purchase some water wetter to prevent corrosion and improve cooling efficiency, and go with silicon or tygon tubing and 1/2" on all parts.. that is 9 mm ID. 3/8" is only 7 mm ID. __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

05-15-2002, 08:48 AM	#3
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	D-Tek kit seems great as well.

05-15-2002, 09:41 AM	#5
BobMont Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: NY Posts: 48	DDen, but thats like building it yourself anyway, you gotta put it all to gether, erc. (if I'm not mistaken). It is a far supperior kit (Maze 3 + Eheim 1250 + Black Ice Extreme). But if you want the easiest, with stil good performance, I'd suggest the swiftech Q power (almost silent, and the Lite On case it comes in is nice, has 120mm fan spots)

05-15-2002, 10:21 AM	#6
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	quality, performance, upgradeability... i would have to say DangerDen... but i havent really used anything else =)

05-15-2002, 12:31 PM	#8
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	dtek or DDen...ive got DDen stuff myself. if you are getting a kit, you might want to get it from Cooltechnica , as they;ld probably ship it faster (DDen takes about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks).

05-15-2002, 12:36 PM	#9
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	D-tek kit has a great rad with a nifty shroud. DangerDen kit has a great block and a Eheim. I'd mix some components

05-15-2002, 01:02 PM	#10
BobMont Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: NY Posts: 48	Umm apparently I'm missing something. Do they actually make a Watercooling kit that comes fully assembled without a case?

05-15-2002, 05:51 PM	#11
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	not that i know of. a 'kit' is just all the components you need to set up a watercooling system. BeCooling also sells kits...

05-15-2002, 06:41 PM	#13
BobMont Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: NY Posts: 48	As for the Danger Den, if you do go with them, I'd recommedn the Black Ice Extreme instead of the Cooling Cube.

05-15-2002, 06:56 PM	#14
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	I just noticed that DangerDen carries my favourite 120 mm fan for a reasonable price. Check it out on the radiator page: http://www.dangerden.com/mall/radiators.asp __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

05-16-2002, 12:41 AM	#15
deeznuts Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san diego Posts: 142	$21 is a reasonable price? my 120mm panaflo m1A at 7v is dead silent, and costs me $5 hehe. actually i have two of them.

05-16-2002, 03:18 AM	#16
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	I'm probably gonna get this stuff from DD: Maze 3 AMD Black ice extreme Papst 120mm Eheim 1048 7 feet tygon 4oz water wetter 10 hose clamps and T-fitting Im gonna order all the stuff when i'm on vacation in MA, so overseas shipping isn't an issue. just one question; does the 1048 have 1/2" fittings? __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

05-16-2002, 05:15 AM	#17
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	it's on DDen's site __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-16-2002, 05:56 AM	#18
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	hehe, i guess i didn't look hard enough does that mean i'm going to have to get the 1250 with 1/2" instead? or can i just mod 1/2" fittings on to the 1048? __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

05-16-2002, 05:59 AM	#19
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Eheim provide adapters specifically designed for their pumps. Ask your local pet shop they usually carry those items.

05-16-2002, 12:17 PM	#20
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	The Eheim 1048 comes with 1/2" (13 mm) hose connections on both the suction and pressure side. Works great with 1/2" tubing (9 mm ID), slightly too large for 3/8" tubing unless you're using silicon or tygon which stretches. __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

05-16-2002, 12:54 PM	#21
jag_e_fattig Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal, formerly Sweden. Posts: 110	cool! thanks alot guys! __________________ Tearing it up AER - 05/29/87-10/26/03, I'll never forget.

05-17-2002, 01:54 AM	#22
AL666 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The City Posts: 104	Well no one mentioned cooltechnica but you can get the very same kit with a DD MAze3 from cooltechnica.com for a better price. Check here: http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...egory_Code=WCK

05-17-2002, 04:29 AM	#23
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	i did; look up ^

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