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Water Block Design / Construction Building your own block? Need info on designing one? Heres where to do it |
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02-05-2004, 10:44 AM | #1 |
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Machinist: Will work for idea!
To put it simply, my friend and I here went as far as designing and machining our very own water blocks and were at the point of installing them until I found this website and this forum that damned both our designs!! I don't mean that in a bad way of course because I see now our designs are so innefficent that we'd just be wasting our time and it IS a learning CURVE! :shrug:
I also see that some of you are putting quite the chunk of change into the machining of these blocks. Well how's this for a deal? If some people want to get together on some ideas/designs/tests/etc, my friend and I would gladly help in the machining (manual and full cnc capability) in exchange for being able to keep a block for our own computers at home. |
02-05-2004, 01:27 PM | #2 |
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Do you realise what you just offered? You're gonna have people beating down your door because "everybody" has a design.
I commend you and hope something really cool (no pun intended) comes out of this. EDIT: What's the smallest hole you can mill in copper? |
02-05-2004, 01:52 PM | #3 |
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Well at least now everyone will like me!!! lol
As for the hole, I would say the smallest we can go is 0.020" as we just recently did a job in our cnc department with rocker arms that required such a hole. If you want to go real extreme, we are currently drilling 0.006" holes in a prototype part for one of our customers. |
02-05-2004, 03:44 PM | #4 |
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Not in copper though...
As for the job, how much will it cost to do such a block?
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02-05-2004, 04:55 PM | #5 |
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Oh you have doubts?? How about a machine with a 12000RPM spindle?? You don't think I can drill 0.020" then? I'll be honest about the 0.006" that it would be extremely difficult but I don't think that small is very feasable. As for the copper block cost, what size is the block? I currently have a cutoff about 2.5" wide, by about 6" long and 1" thick. As for buying more I can get a good price. For the rest of the work, I wouldn't charge anything. Remember, I'm in this for the ideas and just want to cool my computer too! I would only ask that you pay for any shipping costs to send anything back and forth.
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02-05-2004, 05:06 PM | #6 |
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...ok then, I present to you: "Radius" (see link in my sig).
Go through the thread, and PM or e-mail me (this should take a couple of days ). |
02-05-2004, 07:14 PM | #7 |
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Lol! It took me a couple of hours to get through it all, and the funny thing is that it is still being posted on.
Radius should be the ideal waterblock (as of now of course), but would almost be impossible to cut in quantity. Send me one too
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02-06-2004, 09:32 AM | #8 |
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Milling the "Radius" waterblock
I am darren_21's co-worker and I have acquired some 1mm endmills for $10CAD and I am able the get some 1/32"@$11.95CAD and some 3/64"@$9.00CAD. They are all solid carbide cutters. bigben2k if you could send me sketches and dimensions I can get the engineers started on drawing and testing the design and get it programmed and ready to run.
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02-06-2004, 10:49 AM | #9 |
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this is almost to good to be true...
I have a plan...(in my head only) for a HD waterblock that would cool 6 Hardrives. I'm curently taking an autocad course so that i can put my idea on the PC. but the course is going so slow. I'm looking at 8 weeks before they start part 2 of the course where they go into 3D. i'm just wondering if you will have any time in 3 months when i actualy know enough to draw the blocks in cad. or will u be 2 busy making blocks for the other 1000 people that C this thread.
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02-06-2004, 12:40 PM | #10 | |
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02-06-2004, 07:23 PM | #11 | |
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I guess we'll just have too see MadHacker... That would be the most preffered method of receiving dimensions for a waterblock, as a CAD drawing. We can than use that drawing to program with and check back to for any missing dimensions, etc. |
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02-06-2004, 08:43 PM | #12 | |
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The increased amount of fittings shouldn't be a bottleneck in the flow if they're designed and implemented as they should (non-restrictive). |
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02-07-2004, 11:04 AM | #13 | |
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PM me your e-mail address: I can send you a SolidWorks file that has all the details (Thanks to Utabintarbo!). edit: never mind, got your e-mail! Last edited by bigben2k; 02-07-2004 at 11:17 AM. |
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02-08-2004, 09:08 AM | #14 |
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That is the basic layout, the base is about 3/4" thick with the inside of the block being 1/2" deep The top is whatever material is available (preferrably clear, but doesnt really matter The holes on the corners would line up with AMD mounting holes Those black squares are little copper squares that are the full height of the block to get some serious turbulance in the block (could use any shape, I don't really care, whatever is easiest for you to make) Any other questions, email me dct243@cinci.rr.com |
02-08-2004, 09:48 AM | #15 | |
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02-08-2004, 09:52 AM | #16 |
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Oh, well Ive never designed a block before, so I was just guessing... ok, lets say the base is only 3mm thick, and the little blocks would be maybe 2-3mm each? That pic isnt the final deisgn, just something to go on
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02-09-2004, 09:37 AM | #17 |
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drawings
here are some drawings i made up quickly.
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02-09-2004, 10:59 AM | #18 | |
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I could be wrong.... (please don't flame me) but wouldn't it be better having the center point flat? get the water to as close as posible to the core of the CPU, my $0.02 worth.
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02-09-2004, 12:32 PM | #20 | |
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02-09-2004, 01:50 PM | #21 |
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EDIT: sorry, not reading the thread properly
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02-09-2004, 06:37 PM | #22 |
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Uh can I have some work also? Send some Ideas my way check out www.hydrojet.com for some pro machinists
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02-09-2004, 07:13 PM | #23 |
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Can you mill 1 mm holes 20 mm deep? On copper?
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And we're not machinists, we're Tool & Die Makers. Last edited by vapour; 02-10-2004 at 05:51 AM. |
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