prommie or xtreme water setup?

RedLightRunner · 03-06-2004, 12:56 AM

Which cooling system would be best for me: Water with pelts or Prommie Mach I?
Here is my setup:
Intel P4 2.8 800 clocked to 3.01
Abit IS7 mobo
PC2700 overclocked
ATI Radeon 9800pro 128
What I want to do is increase my overclocking capabilities and cool my cpu to about zero or just below. BUT I want to cool/freeze my gpu as well. I configured a setup with water and the prommie and they both come out equally im price.
Mach I – 496
Water with pelts – 550 roughly cpu and gpu pelts
Space is no issue or moblility, I would like to go to a few lan parties but not sure where they are in my area. So portability is not a huge concern. Swiftech is the company that I was going to build the water system from and I know that the pelts put out A Lot of heat. I thought about chilled water but I might as well just go with the prommie then. And the prommie only does the cpu. Is there a kit to make the prommie cool the gpu as well? Not too experienced with vapor cooling so which kit would I get the most out of what Im looking for? I would like to overclock and run at load and not go higher than 25*c cpu. Is there additives that would make the water in the water setup cool the pelts more efficiently. I know that the more heat that you dissipate from the pelt the colder it gets. Any help thanks.
Im gonna change the mem also to 3200 with this mod.

Jason_The_Angry · 03-07-2004, 08:29 AM

Personally, if space and mobility is not an issue, I’d consider ease of maintenance, long range cost, weight, upgrade-ability, etc, etc. If these turn out to be even as well, I always go with a product with a warranty.

As for water additives, there are a few out there, which if I understand correctly, just break down the water surface tension. “water wetter” and “purple ice” are two that I’ve heard of,…. I’m running water wetter.

Anemone · 04-11-2004, 10:25 PM

Personally I was in the same boat and I decided the pelts were the way to go. More compact, easier to change a "piece" of the system at a time, and a system that entirely complements itself, water cooling and pelts go well together, if you do the water cooling right. Given that you are at 2.8, Prom probably only will get you an extra 200mhz, if you are average, slightly more if lucky. GPU cooling however turns into real fps fast if you are a gamer. Longer term its cheaper to upgrade pelts, or blocks, than it is to buy new head kits for phase change. There is coolant to think about and the fact that water will be easier to upgrade to keep up with the greater and greater heat output of cpu's as we move forward. Its not like you can't buy a new prommie someday, but once the cpu exceeds the prommie you have, buying a whole new one is the only way to overcome it.

My $.02

03-06-2004, 12:56 AM	#1
RedLightRunner Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 1	prommie or xtreme water setup? Which cooling system would be best for me: Water with pelts or Prommie Mach I? Here is my setup: Intel P4 2.8 800 clocked to 3.01 Abit IS7 mobo PC2700 overclocked ATI Radeon 9800pro 128 What I want to do is increase my overclocking capabilities and cool my cpu to about zero or just below. BUT I want to cool/freeze my gpu as well. I configured a setup with water and the prommie and they both come out equally im price. Mach I – 496 Water with pelts – 550 roughly cpu and gpu pelts Space is no issue or moblility, I would like to go to a few lan parties but not sure where they are in my area. So portability is not a huge concern. Swiftech is the company that I was going to build the water system from and I know that the pelts put out A Lot of heat. I thought about chilled water but I might as well just go with the prommie then. And the prommie only does the cpu. Is there a kit to make the prommie cool the gpu as well? Not too experienced with vapor cooling so which kit would I get the most out of what Im looking for? I would like to overclock and run at load and not go higher than 25*c cpu. Is there additives that would make the water in the water setup cool the pelts more efficiently. I know that the more heat that you dissipate from the pelt the colder it gets. Any help thanks. Im gonna change the mem also to 3200 with this mod.

03-07-2004, 08:29 AM	#2
Jason_The_Angry Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: D.C. Posts: 55	Personally, if space and mobility is not an issue, I’d consider ease of maintenance, long range cost, weight, upgrade-ability, etc, etc. If these turn out to be even as well, I always go with a product with a warranty. As for water additives, there are a few out there, which if I understand correctly, just break down the water surface tension. “water wetter” and “purple ice” are two that I’ve heard of,…. I’m running water wetter. __________________ "You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone

04-11-2004, 10:25 PM	#3
Anemone Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston MA area Posts: 48	Personally I was in the same boat and I decided the pelts were the way to go. More compact, easier to change a "piece" of the system at a time, and a system that entirely complements itself, water cooling and pelts go well together, if you do the water cooling right. Given that you are at 2.8, Prom probably only will get you an extra 200mhz, if you are average, slightly more if lucky. GPU cooling however turns into real fps fast if you are a gamer. Longer term its cheaper to upgrade pelts, or blocks, than it is to buy new head kits for phase change. There is coolant to think about and the fact that water will be easier to upgrade to keep up with the greater and greater heat output of cpu's as we move forward. Its not like you can't buy a new prommie someday, but once the cpu exceeds the prommie you have, buying a whole new one is the only way to overcome it. My $.02

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