Yet another WC liquid!

bigben2k · 04-29-2004, 08:06 PM

Since everyone and their grandma is fishing out news clips about new liquids for water cooling, I thought I'd add one here:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...h_body_armor_1

TerraMex · 04-30-2004, 01:40 PM

Yeah, but not much chance of getting hit by an arrow or being stalked by Sharon Stone with an ice pick. Or is there...?

Anyway :

If it's impacted suddenly by a projectile or a knife, say, it rigidifies and somehow restricts the ability of the fabric to move," Wetzel said.

They lost me at the "somehow"... It's magic i tell you.

bigben2k · 04-30-2004, 02:50 PM

Actually, the effect can be reproduced at home: mix some corn starch and some water in a low aluminium plate, then put your hand flat into the mixture. If you raise your hand slowly, it'll pull out of the mixture, as you would normally expect. If you try to go quicker, and slam your hand back down, the whole liquid will solidify to where it'll take the aluminium plate with your hand movement...

Isn't kitchen physics fun?

TerraMex · 04-30-2004, 03:11 PM

true. but i was being sarcastic.

the "somehow" strikes me as absurd. Doesn't he know?

bigben2k · 04-30-2004, 03:44 PM

Yeah, here's another quote: "Instead of the arrow going through the Kevlar, it is completely stopped by the Kevlar vest and sometimes just bounces right off".

Waddya mean "sometimes"?

killernoodle · 04-30-2004, 04:23 PM

Dont wanna have a leak in your pants and be shot by an arrow in the same day. I live by this rule.

It sounds similar to that fluid used in suspension systems that flows like normal oil until a magnetic field is passed through it, then it suddenly turns incredibly viscous (almost solid, kinda like taffy. mmmm, taffy....). Cool stuff, but costs about $500/gal.

Plus upon hitting the pump the stuff would harden. Not fun for the impellor

TerraMex · 04-30-2004, 08:19 PM

It means sometimes.

As far as i know:
A Kevlar vest, itself, is made for sharpnel and "enviormental" defence. Keeping stuff hiting you, such as rocks, branches, etc , and the ocasional piece of molten metal.
Not particulary suited for sharp and pointy objects, such as knifes and... arrows.
Its designed to spread the impact force, on a larger area.
However, there are about two types of kevlar armour. Soft and hard. The soft, mainly used, when hit by bullets, it doesnt stop them. The kevlar itself only slows down the round. It needs the ceramic or steel or even titanium plates to keep them from penetrating. Ense the several "grades" of vests. The harder ones are more efficient on stopping bullets. Even with no plates , but depends on the ammo size and power. Usually used with plates also. But heavier, bulkier.
A ceramic or titanium plated vest can stop even a 7.76mm slug. AK stuff.
A simple "soft" kevlar helmet (with no plates on the "pockets") wont stop even a 9mm bullet from medium range.

Back to arrows. They just get into (penetrate) the fabric, due to the matrix arrangement. Same as ice picks. And some guys named Anderson.

http://www.americantomahawk.com/av/kevlar.mpg
Outchy.

Titan151 · 05-07-2004, 10:09 AM

This is great now an arrow to the shoulder will "bounce off". Unfortunately the blunt trauma from the impact will cause severe internal bleading ultimately resulting in death. doh :<(

04-29-2004, 08:06 PM	#1
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Yet another WC liquid! Since everyone and their grandma is fishing out news clips about new liquids for water cooling, I thought I'd add one here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...h_body_armor_1 __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-30-2004, 01:40 PM	#2
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	Yeah, but not much chance of getting hit by an arrow or being stalked by Sharon Stone with an ice pick. Or is there...? Anyway : If it's impacted suddenly by a projectile or a knife, say, it rigidifies and somehow restricts the ability of the fabric to move," Wetzel said. They lost me at the "somehow"... It's magic i tell you. __________________ "we need more cowbell."

04-30-2004, 02:50 PM	#3
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Actually, the effect can be reproduced at home: mix some corn starch and some water in a low aluminium plate, then put your hand flat into the mixture. If you raise your hand slowly, it'll pull out of the mixture, as you would normally expect. If you try to go quicker, and slam your hand back down, the whole liquid will solidify to where it'll take the aluminium plate with your hand movement... Isn't kitchen physics fun? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-30-2004, 03:11 PM	#4
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	true. but i was being sarcastic. the "somehow" strikes me as absurd. Doesn't he know? __________________ "we need more cowbell."

04-30-2004, 03:44 PM	#5
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Yeah, here's another quote: "Instead of the arrow going through the Kevlar, it is completely stopped by the Kevlar vest and sometimes just bounces right off". Waddya mean "sometimes"? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-30-2004, 04:23 PM	#6
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	Dont wanna have a leak in your pants and be shot by an arrow in the same day. I live by this rule. It sounds similar to that fluid used in suspension systems that flows like normal oil until a magnetic field is passed through it, then it suddenly turns incredibly viscous (almost solid, kinda like taffy. mmmm, taffy....). Cool stuff, but costs about $500/gal. Plus upon hitting the pump the stuff would harden. Not fun for the impellor __________________ I have a nice computer.

04-30-2004, 08:19 PM	#7
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	It means sometimes. As far as i know: A Kevlar vest, itself, is made for sharpnel and "enviormental" defence. Keeping stuff hiting you, such as rocks, branches, etc , and the ocasional piece of molten metal. Not particulary suited for sharp and pointy objects, such as knifes and... arrows. Its designed to spread the impact force, on a larger area. However, there are about two types of kevlar armour. Soft and hard. The soft, mainly used, when hit by bullets, it doesnt stop them. The kevlar itself only slows down the round. It needs the ceramic or steel or even titanium plates to keep them from penetrating. Ense the several "grades" of vests. The harder ones are more efficient on stopping bullets. Even with no plates , but depends on the ammo size and power. Usually used with plates also. But heavier, bulkier. A ceramic or titanium plated vest can stop even a 7.76mm slug. AK stuff. A simple "soft" kevlar helmet (with no plates on the "pockets") wont stop even a 9mm bullet from medium range. Back to arrows. They just get into (penetrate) the fabric, due to the matrix arrangement. Same as ice picks. And some guys named Anderson. http://www.americantomahawk.com/av/kevlar.mpg Outchy. __________________ "we need more cowbell."

05-07-2004, 10:09 AM	#8
Titan151 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 116	This is great now an arrow to the shoulder will "bounce off". Unfortunately the blunt trauma from the impact will cause severe internal bleading ultimately resulting in death. doh :<(

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