How much of each additive

[manfar]

Hey,
This is my first water cooled system and its gone well so far other than how do yous know how many ml of each additive do you use. I’ve heard 95% distilled water 5% anti corrosive e.g. water wetter. Question is though how do you know how much water will be in the system to know how many ml's 5% is? Everyone has different systems with more/less pipes and a larger/smaller reservoir. How do I go about guessing it? I want to add water wetter, an anti algae solution and some uv dye. How much of each do I buy?


Next question, probably a very stupid one, is where do I get distilled water from? Is boiling water good enough or do I need distilled water and boil that. I want the system to stay clean for as long as possible so I don’t want algae etc. will a big bottle of bottled water from the super market do like Evian or something?

Thanks for any info

[funbun]

You can get distilled water from your grocery store. Just go to the isle that sells drinks and cokes and stuff.

I would like to know how much additive to put in also. Do you guys just guess at how much additive to put in?

[pauldenton]

Originally Posted by funbun

You can get distilled water from your grocery store. Just go to the isle that sells drinks and cokes and stuff.

I would like to know how much additive to put in also. Do you guys just guess at how much additive to put in?

afraid that since Manfar, like me, is in the UK this is not the case.
it is, afaik, impossible to obtain distilled water here (unless you buy a water distiller) - you can only obtain de-ionised water (for irons, car batteries etc), which can be produced far more cheaply (and has the disadvantage of fevereshly re-ionising itself at the expense of the metal in the loop.....) australia is the same i believe...

btw it would be illegal to sell distilled water for human consumption in the UK even if it were available - there is a minimum calcium level for bottled waters here...

[AngryAlpaca]

A minimum calcium level?! Wow... That should be on www.dumblaws.com

[manfar]

oh great
what should i do, is there anyone here from the uk that have water cooling. should i try get a water distiller? are they expensive? does bottled water still contain too many impurities?

[Waterbug]

Originally Posted by manfar

Hey,
This is my first water cooled system and its gone well so far other than how do yous know how many ml of each additive do you use. I’ve heard 95% distilled water 5% anti corrosive e.g. water wetter. Question is though how do you know how much water will be in the system to know how many ml's 5% is? Everyone has different systems with more/less pipes and a larger/smaller reservoir. How do I go about guessing it? I want to add water wetter, an anti algae solution and some uv dye. How much of each do I buy?


Next question, probably a very stupid one, is where do I get distilled water from? Is boiling water good enough or do I need distilled water and boil that. I want the system to stay clean for as long as possible so I don’t want algae etc. will a big bottle of bottled water from the super market do like Evian or something?

Thanks for any info

Just use batteri car water, ive have posted the same questions many times in different forums with any real answer to it, the americans just play bigheaded and say use distilled, or read the stickys, when u cant get distilled water in scandinavia. Almost everyone here in scandinavia uses car batteri water and its ok.
The closest would be clean antibacterial water but that u can only get it on the pharmacy with a doctors prescrition.

[manfar]

looks like ill have to get car battery water. a distiller is about 150pounds at least and i could replace the entire water cooling system with that kind of money so looks like ill have to leave the distilled water. thanks for the info guys, i would have been all over the city search for that water for weeks if not

if i put water wetter into the car battery water and some other things like anti algae and uv dye do yous think it would keep the de ionized water more stable and not look for ions of all my gear? I think the only metal in the system will be copper

also considering getting a pan of boiled water and collecting the steam off it for distilled water, anyone tried it before?

[funbun]

Great, but what about the additive percentage? I've got some Water Wetter and some Bars Leaks. How do you determine how additive to put in?

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by Waterbug

Just use batteri car water, ive have posted the same questions many times in different forums with any real answer to it, the americans just play bigheaded and say use distilled, or read the stickys, when u cant get distilled water in scandinavia. Almost everyone here in scandinavia uses car batteri water and its ok.
The closest would be clean antibacterial water but that u can only get it on the pharmacy with a doctors prescrition.

Big headed? No. Distilled water is on every corner here. Just habbit of it being available. De-inonized water will be fine. Sure it will re-ionize but that is a moot point being any other water will be ionized anyway.

[Waterbug]

Originally Posted by jaydee116

Big headed? No. Distilled water is on every corner here. Just habbit of it being available. De-inonized water will be fine. Sure it will re-ionize but that is a moot point being any other water will be ionized anyway.

Hi Jaydee sorry for the bigheaded worduse, but ive have been asking the same question about percent ratios, water to use instead, and, best additive,in a lot of forums and i have been either ignored, or lectiored about reading the stikys, wich i have done. The missconception is that everything is available everywhere in the world, like antifreezer, where we have green, blue, red here, that seems not to be easy to find the right colour in other countries. And as swiftech writes in their manuals, use antifreezer if you cant get HydrX, what kind of antifreezer? Prophylene or Ethylene based? And is the percent of dilution the same using either one of them? A lot of question that would be nice to know. I did by the way mailed swiftech about that particular question without any answer.

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by Waterbug

Hi Jaydee sorry for the bigheaded worduse, but ive have been asking the same question about percent ratios, water to use instead, and, best additive,in a lot of forums and i have been either ignored, or lectiored about reading the stikys, wich i have done. The missconception is that everything is available everywhere in the world, like antifreezer, where we have green, blue, red here, that seems not to be easy to find the right colour in other countries. And as swiftech writes in their manuals, use antifreezer if you cant get HydrX, what kind of antifreezer? Prophylene or Ethylene based? And is the percent of dilution the same using either one of them? A lot of question that would be nice to know. I did by the way mailed swiftech about that particular question without any answer.

The majority of these sites are based in the USA. People refer to the stickies and search because we get tired of the same questions being asked over and over and over.

Best thing to do is get a 50/50 premixed (50% antifreeze/50% water) antifreeze and just use it as is if distilled water is not available. If that isn't available then use 50% antifreeze and 50% of the best water you can find. You can also go with 30% antifreeze and 70% water. The more antifreeze the less the performance will be but you woun't be able to measure the difference in temps from 30% to 50%. At least I can't even with a Thermocoupler and DMM. The anti freeze I use says Ethylene Glycol and Diethylene Glycol in the ingredients.

Water Wetter use 2 ounces to the gallon. Most systems are much less than a gallon so take 1/2 gallon and mix it with 1 ounce of watter wetter then pour what you need into the system and save the rest. 1/2 gallon should be enough to fill the system. I use about 1/4 gallon in mine but don't use a resivore.


Note this is what works best for ME.

Hopefully that was a little more what your looking for.

[manfar]

thanks jaydee ill go for that

[Waterbug]

Thanks for your reply Jaydee, will try that.

[psychofunk]

You guys may want to read the following:

http://overclockers.com/articles993/

http://overclockers.com/tips1153/

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by psychofunk

You guys may want to read the following:

http://overclockers.com/articles993/

http://overclockers.com/tips1153/

And maybe: http://www.procooling.com/articles/h...er_coolin1.php