Upgrades for Doom3? - Page 2

KnightElite · 08-03-2004, 03:17 PM

I've been playing Doom3 for a bit right now, runs great at 1024x768, medium quality on this system:
Radeon 9500 PRO (not overclocked)
AthlonXP 2500+ mobile at 2200MHz (more to follow when I get off my lazy ass and cool it better)
1.5GB XMS3200 C2 RAM
Abit NF7-S motherboard
and hard drives, etc...

Puzzdre · 08-03-2004, 04:19 PM

Think I'm gonna get myself another case, big tower this time. It won't run D3 any better, but I'll feel much better...

what I got will have to do...

XP1700@2320 MHz
R9800NP

correction, another stick of 512 Mb RAM just come to mind :E

pHaestus · 08-03-2004, 04:53 PM

this bodes well for me then KE. I just watched a little MP video someone took with a listen server. Looks fun to me

zero0ne · 08-03-2004, 07:38 PM

if you aboour to buy a new vid card and dont have too much cash to spend, go with the MSI 9800 PRO 128MB, the reason i say this is because MSI actually uses the XT (r360 core) for this card... kinda nice and uber easy to overclock esp if your watercooling...

killernoodle · 08-03-2004, 09:16 PM

Ok guys, I had one reserved and I got it today. It runs okay on my brother's comp, a 1500+ and a 9600pro, but it continually freezes randomly and goes to windows on mine. Despite the frequent problems with the game simply dying, it runs very quick on my comp. I dont know how to show FPS, but it is well over 50 all the time. This is a 9800 pro and a 2500+ running at 2.5ghz (had to drop it a little) with 1gb of ram. This is at 1280 rez and the high graphic setting without AA on.

Does anyone know why it keeps dying on my comp?

killernoodle · 08-03-2004, 11:31 PM

I guess one of the things on the list should be all new drivers...

I upgraded to the latest version of the Cat. 4.7 and now it runs smoothly and without dying. Now, this game is freaky as hell, literally. I have never had the hair on the back of my neck stand up when playing games like when I'm playing doom 3....

HAL-9000 · 08-04-2004, 12:29 AM

I'm playing Doom III now, I was one of the geeks hanging out at Fry's waiting for it to open this morning, and now I realize I need a new video card, plain and simple. My rig consists of a P-IV HT@3.6Ghz w/512MB DDR400 on a IC7-MAX platform. The video card is a GForce Ti4400.

Now, at 800x600 at medium quality, the game actually plays fine, quite pretty. But from my experience with the gameplay and from what I have read on the [H], I need a card with 256MB of RAM or upgrade isn't really worth it. The game won't even default to "Ultra Quality" unless the local VRAM is at least 512MB!

The issue is texture and lightsource loading. When a door opens exposing a different room for instance, the game needs to pull new textures'n lights to build the room. Since my card only has 128MB of RAM, the card needs to fetch the extra data from main memory through AGP, and then decompress it into the VRAM before displaying it. This makes the game momentarily freeze while this goes on. In the example listed above, it is particularly annoying as the game designers have a penchant for having baddies lunge at you when a door is opened. But it happens whenever you change scenery really. Aside from that, Doom III plays fine combined with the silicon in my rig.

What sucks about this is that no matter what video GPU you have, this problem will be prevalent unless you have at least 256MB of VRAM. No overclocking can solve the problem of too little physical memory on the card. More than anything, physical VRAM seems to be the bottleneck in my system, even running just a Ti4400 GPU. Now, for Ultra Quality at 16 by 12, well, I don't think they make a 512MB 6800 Ultra do they? If they do, that will be one spendy little piece of refined sand!

SlaterSpeed · 08-04-2004, 03:38 AM

Thats interesting HAL. Had not thought of it like that

Ive heard its running very badly on quite a few peoples systems. Eaven poeple with 9800xt's and 3ghz p4's are having problems so im quite pleased i only get a little slowdown now and again (i had the same problem in farcry) Guss il have to live with is for a while as ive just spent £120 on a router and new hdd

leejsmith · 08-04-2004, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaterSpeed

Thats interesting HAL. Had not thought of it like that

Ive heard its running very badly on quite a few peoples systems. Eaven poeple with 9800xt's and 3ghz p4's are having problems so im quite pleased i only get a little slowdown now and again (i had the same problem in farcry) Guss il have to live with is for a while as ive just spent £120 on a router and new hdd

slaterspeed do you have the offical uk version ? i have it on order but the uk release date is the 13th

SlaterSpeed · 08-04-2004, 11:25 AM

erm... no its the US version (dont ask how i got it as i dont think we are spose to talk about it on this forum

)

leejsmith · 08-04-2004, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaterSpeed

erm... no its the US version (dont ask how i got it as i dont think we are spose to talk about it on this forum

)

thanks

killernoodle · 08-04-2004, 01:36 PM

OOH, I just got the chainsaw

This is the funnest part

Joe · 08-04-2004, 02:03 PM

Yummy I got my copy at the store today, and life is good

pHaestus · 08-04-2004, 06:04 PM

Picked up some more RAM and my copy of Doom3 today. $70CAD at Futureshop but KOTOR was free with the game. I played probably 30 minutes and it is incredibly fun and polished. Running 1024 and medium quality on my system:

2300MHz Barton
1GB RAM
ATI 9700

I am really impressed with the game; you should go pick it up

Anemone · 08-04-2004, 06:23 PM

Not for Doom3, am waiting on World of Warcraft and EQ2.

P4EE (possibly the 720 64 bit variant if it comes) (Sep-Oct)
512mb NV48 - might be known as the 6850 (Sep-Nov)
925XE (supposedly the 64bit variant of the 925X)
OCZ DDR2 667 EB Platinum 2gb
FX6800 water block - DD
6002A cpu block
120.3 radiator
2 Raptor 74's

That about covers it, more misc tidbits along the way, but definitely not a huge fan of Doom.

iroc409 · 08-12-2004, 07:51 PM

so who's beat doom 3? just curious, i know some of you have to have. it's pretty sweet. my video card hates the game though

keeps going into vpu reset.

oh yeah, and when hell gives you a chaingun, use it!

Mars · 08-12-2004, 10:51 PM

I hope my P 266 can handle D3. Onboard video and sound doesn't help out either for me. Do you guys know it that game is compatible with Windows 95?
Who am I kidding. I should just wait until it comes out on PS1.

wwhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaat!!!!!

mashie · 08-14-2004, 11:59 AM

I got my UK copy yesterday, did complete the game a week ago

It is playing fine at 1600x1200 high quality on the 6800GT.

One thing though, videocard isn't everything, you really should consider upgrading to a 5.1 sound system as well...

KnightElite · 08-26-2004, 01:57 AM

I now did get a D3 upgrade. I got a 6800 GT, though it was not specifically for Doom3. I can play 1600x1200 high quality without problems.

pHaestus · 08-26-2004, 08:54 AM

Did you get your performance issues with the GT sorted out then KE?

KnightElite · 08-26-2004, 07:00 PM

Yeah, I did. I thought I had the newest chipset drivers, but was mistaken. Updating that, and DirectX fixed the problem.

Dgephri · 08-26-2004, 07:11 PM

my 5950 seems to do pretty well at 1280X1024 in ultra mode. I don't have any AA or AF on, but after level load it runs pretty smooth. Did anyone else try the .cfg file tweaks?

Arcturius · 08-26-2004, 10:09 PM

I'm playing currently @ 640x480 med qual.

Good enough for me really. Honestly, does pitch black look that much better @ 1600x1200 than it does @ 640x480? Didn't think so.

More seriously, I'm planning to OC my system again in the near future, and possibly swap memory with another one of my machines to have 1GB of XMS3200 dual channel.

Waiting for the RTV to cure on my pump/airtrap.

Just took the machine apart and cleaned it again (dust had plugged both the CPU and NB fans, stopped them completely...

not a problem on the vidcard--sink only, no fan! ) and realized that I only had the ATX power connector run to my mobo. Will see how high I can clock it with the ATX12V connector plugged in...I've also had problems with graphical corruption (in 2D) and GPU resets...RMAing the card as we speak...back to GF3 Ti200 temporarily

Gaming machine:
Barton 2600+
AN7
512MB Corsair XMS 3200
GF3 Ti200 (will be Radeon 9600 np again soon!)
LSI U160
Seagate Cheetah 15K.3 OS disk
2x IBM 36Z15 soft RAID0 game disk

Nightfall · 08-26-2004, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcturius

I'm playing currently @ 640x480 med qual.

Good enough for me really. Honestly, does pitch black look that much better @ 1600x1200 than it does @ 640x480? Didn't think so.

How could you say that?? Your just jealous

Etacovda · 09-06-2004, 10:49 PM

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=802808

Semi-related

Incredible modelling/modding skills

View Poll Results: Are you planning upgrades to go along with Doom3's release?
Whole new system	13	19.40%
New video card	18	26.87%
New CPU and/or mobo	3	4.48%
Other misc upgrades	7	10.45%
My system is already a tiny silicon god	23	34.33%
I'm skipping Doom3 on PC and getting it for XBox	3	4.48%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

08-03-2004, 03:17 PM	#26
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	I've been playing Doom3 for a bit right now, runs great at 1024x768, medium quality on this system: Radeon 9500 PRO (not overclocked) AthlonXP 2500+ mobile at 2200MHz (more to follow when I get off my lazy ass and cool it better) 1.5GB XMS3200 C2 RAM Abit NF7-S motherboard and hard drives, etc... __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

08-03-2004, 04:19 PM	#27
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	Think I'm gonna get myself another case, big tower this time. It won't run D3 any better, but I'll feel much better... what I got will have to do... XP1700@2320 MHz R9800NP correction, another stick of 512 Mb RAM just come to mind :E __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

08-03-2004, 04:53 PM	#28
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	this bodes well for me then KE. I just watched a little MP video someone took with a listen server. Looks fun to me __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

08-03-2004, 09:16 PM	#30
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	Ok guys, I had one reserved and I got it today. It runs okay on my brother's comp, a 1500+ and a 9600pro, but it continually freezes randomly and goes to windows on mine. Despite the frequent problems with the game simply dying, it runs very quick on my comp. I dont know how to show FPS, but it is well over 50 all the time. This is a 9800 pro and a 2500+ running at 2.5ghz (had to drop it a little) with 1gb of ram. This is at 1280 rez and the high graphic setting without AA on. Does anyone know why it keeps dying on my comp? __________________ I have a nice computer.

08-03-2004, 07:38 PM	#29
zero0ne Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 17	if you aboour to buy a new vid card and dont have too much cash to spend, go with the MSI 9800 PRO 128MB, the reason i say this is because MSI actually uses the XT (r360 core) for this card... kinda nice and uber easy to overclock esp if your watercooling...

08-03-2004, 11:31 PM	#31
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	I guess one of the things on the list should be all new drivers... I upgraded to the latest version of the Cat. 4.7 and now it runs smoothly and without dying. Now, this game is freaky as hell, literally. I have never had the hair on the back of my neck stand up when playing games like when I'm playing doom 3.... __________________ I have a nice computer.

08-04-2004, 12:29 AM	#32
HAL-9000 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 202	I'm playing Doom III now, I was one of the geeks hanging out at Fry's waiting for it to open this morning, and now I realize I need a new video card, plain and simple. My rig consists of a P-IV HT@3.6Ghz w/512MB DDR400 on a IC7-MAX platform. The video card is a GForce Ti4400. Now, at 800x600 at medium quality, the game actually plays fine, quite pretty. But from my experience with the gameplay and from what I have read on the [H], I need a card with 256MB of RAM or upgrade isn't really worth it. The game won't even default to "Ultra Quality" unless the local VRAM is at least 512MB! The issue is texture and lightsource loading. When a door opens exposing a different room for instance, the game needs to pull new textures'n lights to build the room. Since my card only has 128MB of RAM, the card needs to fetch the extra data from main memory through AGP, and then decompress it into the VRAM before displaying it. This makes the game momentarily freeze while this goes on. In the example listed above, it is particularly annoying as the game designers have a penchant for having baddies lunge at you when a door is opened. But it happens whenever you change scenery really. Aside from that, Doom III plays fine combined with the silicon in my rig. What sucks about this is that no matter what video GPU you have, this problem will be prevalent unless you have at least 256MB of VRAM. No overclocking can solve the problem of too little physical memory on the card. More than anything, physical VRAM seems to be the bottleneck in my system, even running just a Ti4400 GPU. Now, for Ultra Quality at 16 by 12, well, I don't think they make a 512MB 6800 Ultra do they? If they do, that will be one spendy little piece of refined sand!

08-04-2004, 03:38 AM	#33
SlaterSpeed Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 234	Thats interesting HAL. Had not thought of it like that Ive heard its running very badly on quite a few peoples systems. Eaven poeple with 9800xt's and 3ghz p4's are having problems so im quite pleased i only get a little slowdown now and again (i had the same problem in farcry) Guss il have to live with is for a while as ive just spent £120 on a router and new hdd __________________ aka. slater3333uk - The self proclaimed 'Middle Player' 'Liquified'

08-04-2004, 11:25 AM	#35
SlaterSpeed Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 234	erm... no its the US version (dont ask how i got it as i dont think we are spose to talk about it on this forum ) __________________ aka. slater3333uk - The self proclaimed 'Middle Player' 'Liquified'

08-04-2004, 01:36 PM	#37
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	OOH, I just got the chainsaw This is the funnest part __________________ I have a nice computer.

08-04-2004, 02:03 PM	#38
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Yummy I got my copy at the store today, and life is good __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

08-04-2004, 06:04 PM	#39
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Picked up some more RAM and my copy of Doom3 today. $70CAD at Futureshop but KOTOR was free with the game. I played probably 30 minutes and it is incredibly fun and polished. Running 1024 and medium quality on my system: 2300MHz Barton 1GB RAM ATI 9700 I am really impressed with the game; you should go pick it up __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

08-04-2004, 06:23 PM	#40
Anemone Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston MA area Posts: 48	Not for Doom3, am waiting on World of Warcraft and EQ2. P4EE (possibly the 720 64 bit variant if it comes) (Sep-Oct) 512mb NV48 - might be known as the 6850 (Sep-Nov) 925XE (supposedly the 64bit variant of the 925X) OCZ DDR2 667 EB Platinum 2gb FX6800 water block - DD 6002A cpu block 120.3 radiator 2 Raptor 74's That about covers it, more misc tidbits along the way, but definitely not a huge fan of Doom.

08-12-2004, 07:51 PM	#41
iroc409 Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: midwest side, yo Posts: 596	so who's beat doom 3? just curious, i know some of you have to have. it's pretty sweet. my video card hates the game though keeps going into vpu reset. oh yeah, and when hell gives you a chaingun, use it! __________________ :shrug:

08-12-2004, 10:51 PM	#42
Mars Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 108	I hope my P 266 can handle D3. Onboard video and sound doesn't help out either for me. Do you guys know it that game is compatible with Windows 95? Who am I kidding. I should just wait until it comes out on PS1. wwhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaat!!!!! __________________ The Rage is Relentless

08-14-2004, 11:59 AM	#43
mashie Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 149	I got my UK copy yesterday, did complete the game a week ago It is playing fine at 1600x1200 high quality on the 6800GT. One thing though, videocard isn't everything, you really should consider upgrading to a 5.1 sound system as well... __________________ mashie

08-26-2004, 01:57 AM	#44
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	I now did get a D3 upgrade. I got a 6800 GT, though it was not specifically for Doom3. I can play 1600x1200 high quality without problems. __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

08-26-2004, 08:54 AM	#45
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Did you get your performance issues with the GT sorted out then KE? __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

08-26-2004, 07:00 PM	#46
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	Yeah, I did. I thought I had the newest chipset drivers, but was mistaken. Updating that, and DirectX fixed the problem. __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

08-26-2004, 07:11 PM	#47
Dgephri Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 9	my 5950 seems to do pretty well at 1280X1024 in ultra mode. I don't have any AA or AF on, but after level load it runs pretty smooth. Did anyone else try the .cfg file tweaks? __________________ Hunt for the Loch Ness Monster P4 3.73EE 4X512Meg Corsair DDR2 @675 BFG 7800GTX 512Meg OC @ 625/1.83 WD 2X250Gig SATA300 16meg cache Plextor 716SA DVD +/- Animated Nessie Lake Dangerden Watercooling 3/8" loop--TDX--BI Xflow ProII--DDD5 pump--NV-78

08-26-2004, 10:09 PM	#48
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	I'm playing currently @ 640x480 med qual. Good enough for me really. Honestly, does pitch black look that much better @ 1600x1200 than it does @ 640x480? Didn't think so. More seriously, I'm planning to OC my system again in the near future, and possibly swap memory with another one of my machines to have 1GB of XMS3200 dual channel. Waiting for the RTV to cure on my pump/airtrap. Just took the machine apart and cleaned it again (dust had plugged both the CPU and NB fans, stopped them completely... not a problem on the vidcard--sink only, no fan! ) and realized that I only had the ATX power connector run to my mobo. Will see how high I can clock it with the ATX12V connector plugged in...I've also had problems with graphical corruption (in 2D) and GPU resets...RMAing the card as we speak...back to GF3 Ti200 temporarily Gaming machine: Barton 2600+ AN7 512MB Corsair XMS 3200 GF3 Ti200 (will be Radeon 9600 np again soon!) LSI U160 Seagate Cheetah 15K.3 OS disk 2x IBM 36Z15 soft RAID0 game disk __________________ Everything aircooled (I honestly don't know why you guys let me stay a member...) Always folding: WXP Pro: KD7R + Palomino 1800+ W2K3: 4x P3 Xeon 500 512KB (4 clients) Linux boxes: none Had to put them to use doing real work.

09-06-2004, 10:49 PM	#50
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=802808 Semi-related Incredible modelling/modding skills

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