Swiftech MCW-CHILL 452 help

[psychofunk]

I guess this is to anyone who can answer but I actually intended to direct this to phaes as it is his review that has me wondering. Either way, this is the deal. I was thinking of making something similar to the 452 using 2 low pro server sinks with copper pins but more importantly cooling using (2) 6002's. What I would like to know is how small a pair of pelts could I getaway with if I were willing to have load temps of 20-30c? (2) 72's? (2) 150's? Also how big of a rad would I need to pull the heat from those tecs. Could I possibly get away with a BIPII. I am after ultimate performance with the lowest noise possible. I am clueless about pelts so if I am way off base then please let me know. If I am in the ballpark but need some fine tuning please point me in the right direction. Thanks.

[KnightElite]

So you are saying you want to use MCW6002s to cool a pair of TECs, which would in turn be cooling a waterblock? Could be done, exactly the same as the MCW 452, assuming you can find a good center block, and suchlike. In pHaestus' setup, we used two blazer heatercores, on seperate loops, one cooling each block, to get the temperatures that he got. Whenever using TECs, I recommend the biggest possible radiator. Please explain what exactly you want to do with teh server sinks?

[psychofunk]

Hey Knight sorry for not mentioning you, I forgot you had a hand in the article too. Also I have to apoligize for being a newb to pelts and all that goes with that as well as the fact that my thoughts tend to be scattered.

So, down to business, my intention is to come up with something as good as the best watercooling (performance wise) using a realitively weak pelt water chiller ala mcx452 (and hopefully cutting noise levels down). Basically what I am thinking is, using the procooling pic below as a visual guide:



1. replace the "MCW5002 (hot side)" with a pair of 6000's (my thinking is better performance block would aid in better cooling of the hot side)
2. create my own "MCW5002 baseplates (chilling water)" using the two copper pin server blocks I mentioned earlier or even better if there is a ready made solution I would go for that.
3. replace "226W TEC" with a pair of 72W TEC's (remember my intention is not for sub zero performance, I only want my CPU load temp to be say 25-30c at worst oced to the hilt running 2.1v while priming)
4. replace the blazer cores with 1 (preferably) or 2 (if necessary) BIP II's with (2)120mm Papst FGL's. I am hoping with only two 72W TEC's this is all that would be necessary to cool (as you can tell I want super quiet)
5. replace the two larger pumps you guys used with a single more powerful (that March pump Cathar posted about or even keep my current MagDrive3 though I am really wanting to move to a 12v pump) or two or even three tiny (ala c-systems) pumps to keep two seperate loops going (so I either use one loop with both 6000's or 2, one for each 6000).
6. running all through 3/8" or 7/16" hose for compactness.

What do you think? What do you suggest? Remember I am not interested in subzero temps. Thanks again Knight.

psycho


Just in case someone does not already know and wants to know what article I am getting this info from: http://www.procooling.com/reviews/ht...52_review_.php . (BTW, great article phaes and knight)

[pHaestus]

If I were interested in CPU temps of 20-30C I would buy a dehumidifier and modify it to chill coolant. You should get the desired performance a lot cheaper and in a simple package.

[BillA]

yup, but "with the lowest noise possible"
don't know that cooling anything but a HUGE rad with slow fans would work
again, what are the limits of "possible" ?

too much cash chasing to small a problem

[psychofunk]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

If I were interested in CPU temps of 20-30C I would buy a dehumidifier and modify it to chill coolant. You should get the desired performance a lot cheaper and in a simple package.

yeah but that is like buying a premod case..... where is the fun in that? No but seriously if I were to do that how quiet could I modify it to be. All the ones I have seen first hand were pretty loud, sucking/blowing sounding things. How simple would it be to rip it apart and make a custom enclosure (for my own needs) for? I will do some googling on dehumidifiers. Any suggestion on what to look for, particular features that may be advantageous for a water cooling type? Also do you really think my above plan is hopeless or it just a little expensive for minimal gains?

As far as expense, well I am already looking to upgrade my pump and rad so I would only really be buying two blocks & two tecs. Hose is cheap I have an extra psu or two around the house and I also already have the rest of the loop. And the way I look at it, is if I do it right it should last me a good while, give me good temps and peace and quiet. A 120mm Papst FGL is about my limit. I can still hear um spinnin but they are not as annoying as other fans that I have used.

Any other advice on directions to move with this plan or another plan (such as the dehumidifier) or mods to make to the plan are welcomed and appreciated. I am after the white buffalo, I want extreme oc's (not elite oc's) with low, low, low, low noise that I can shoe horn into a small 17x13x5-6 inch high enclosure that will sit underneath my YYcube.

[psychofunk]

No more comments, so then my idea sucks? Anyone?

[BillA]

TT (TR ?) sold a pci slot TEC controller which works for low power TECs
seems easier