What about internal pics of the storm? - Page 10

mwolfman · 10-13-2004, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cathar

I'm not sure I understand what I'm looking at, and what you're asking of me.

Ohh, sorry...

Cathar · 10-15-2004, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mwolfman

Ohh, sorry...

It's a test bit of delrin, the process is to use a 2mm (1,5 cracks) mill bit to drill a hole and then move the bit 1.6mm to make narrow channels with loads if turbulence.
On the real block the holes that make the channels are going to be moved .8 mm in height to make the walls/channels more compact.
A close-up is below...

Seems alright I guess. Still not sure I understand what you're trying to do with the Delrin, and unsure why the turbulence you're trying to create is mostly being spent cooling the Delrin.

mwolfman · 10-15-2004, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cathar

Seems alright I guess. Still not sure I understand what you're trying to do with the Delrin, and unsure why the turbulence you're trying to create is mostly being spent cooling the Delrin.

in Delrin? its a prototype, I get Delrin for free and the copper is expensive...

(Im testing the CNC-code so that I know that the mill will do what I want it to do!)

Cathar · 10-15-2004, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mwolfman

in Delrin? its a prototype, I get Delrin for free and the copper is expensive...

(Im testing the CNC-code so that I know that the mill will do what I want it to do!)

** Cathar makes note to self: MUST get the telepathic mind reader device repaired soon. **

Oh, okay, thanks for the explanation. Reminds me of Jaydee's lumpy channel thing.

Cathar · 10-15-2004, 07:29 PM

Well they might not be internal pictures, but here some snapshots of the exterior of the G5. Am still waiting for the proper middle plate to go with it.

Basic introductory picture:

The following picture is an attempt to show the lapped finish to the base-plate. It's not a polished mirror at all, nor is it intended to be. It is very flat though...

...however it is still reflective enough to shave with.

...and the following picture shows what happens if you try to use a flash to take a picture of the base...

It's so hard to take a blur-free shot with no flash with the digital camera and low shutter speed...

...and still I failed, the above and this being the best out of about 12 shots.

A semi-decent attempt to show the level of polish on the mounting bracket...

...and a couple of parting shots with the camera flat on the table to give as blur free of a picture as possible.

threeputt · 10-15-2004, 10:48 PM

Nice... maybe try to use a tripod for no-flash shots? or maybe you don't have one

What's the bracket made out of?

Delirious · 10-16-2004, 07:40 AM

Really liking the polished bracket, Im thinking I might have to polish my g4 bracket

moosturdsoed25 · 10-16-2004, 06:32 PM

i thought he said before it was chromed Al, correct me if I am wrong. That Ag looks killer, wow on the lapping job!

Edward Ng · 10-16-2004, 06:42 PM

Suddenly I have a serious desire to plunk down money on a G5...

DryFire · 10-16-2004, 09:44 PM

I"ll buy your g4 off you ed.

Torin · 10-16-2004, 10:21 PM

Me too. :P

pHaestus · 10-18-2004, 05:43 PM

Cathar et al.

The second G4 (with stepped base) arrived today. You had said that this is a loaner to be returned, but would you rather I just forward it to a North American buyer after testing? Whatever works. I'll try and get the review up by Friday (I know everyone's salivating but much clibration remains). There is still no word on the first package which included the AlphaCool wbs.

The stepped base is nice!

threeputt · 10-18-2004, 05:53 PM

Well, get moving!!!

Off topic:

How did you get it through the customs? I thought they were on strike? One of my client is in Burnaby, BC waiting for shipment from overseas...

pHaestus · 10-18-2004, 05:55 PM

I have no idea how that works. Possibly depends on what office it happens to go through?

Cathar · 10-18-2004, 06:42 PM

Second block was sent via EMS courier, so probably has some amount of customs clearance priority. Customs clearance is probably achieved through an out-sourcing of custom's duties to the courier's office, as seems to be the case for various couriers in Australia, and I would imagine that Canada is similar when it comes to priority mail services. i.e. semi-privatised customs clearance meaning that the goverment based customs clearance gets largely bypassed.

Sure, happy to forward it directly to a North American buyer, however the real reason I was wanting it back is because I was thinking of forwarding it to OC.com for review.

Edward Ng · 10-18-2004, 06:45 PM

Sorry to continue off-topic, but do you recall what form of shipping the replacement midplate is coming by?

And thanks again.

-Ed

Cathar · 10-18-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Ng

Sorry to continue off-topic, but do you recall what form of shipping the replacement midplate is coming by?

And thanks again.

-Ed

Regular air-mail for yourself, since you live in the USA. Have gotten a few notices in the last week though of delivery times being somewhat erratic for the USA, with some getting their blocks in a matter of 4-5 days, and others only just getting them 3 weeks after they were sent.

Edward Ng · 10-18-2004, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathar

Regular air-mail for yourself, since you live in the USA. Have gotten a few notices in the last week though of delivery times being somewhat erratic for the USA, with some getting their blocks in a matter of 4-5 days, and others only just getting them 3 weeks after they were sent.

No problem; I'll be sure to get the flunky coming your way ASAP.

pHaestus · 10-18-2004, 08:05 PM

I can send it to JoeC just as easily. I just got my coolant in the loop and am going to run the original Cascade a few times to verify that sensible numbers are coming out of the testbed. If so, I'll start running the G4 tomorrow night late (hell I might even run it tomorrow ALL night and then take a half day Wed at work).

Cathar · 10-18-2004, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaestus

I can send it to JoeC just as easily. I just got my coolant in the loop and am going to run the original Cascade a few times to verify that sensible numbers are coming out of the testbed. If so, I'll start running the G4 tomorrow night late (hell I might even run it tomorrow ALL night and then take a half day Wed at work).

Hey, no need to bust your chops over it, although I can tell that you're probably just enthusiastic, as I would be.

Give me some time to think about the JoeC thing. Right now it's 50:50.

moosturdsoed25 · 10-18-2004, 08:40 PM

cathar, if I make any difference, sending it to JoeC would be very monumental for your block, because his test beds make much sense to me, and no offense, test more blocks than procooling.

pHaestus · 10-18-2004, 08:56 PM

how could I take offense that he tests more wbs than I do? Pretty simple to just count the total number tested. In my highly biased opinion I feel I do a more thorough job of testing wbs (perhaps why I have done fewer) and I think that my results seem to be more internally consistent and make sense as a whole.

Cathar · 10-18-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaestus

how could I take offense that he tests more wbs than I do? Pretty simple to just count the total number tested. In my highly biased opinion I feel I do a more thorough job of testing wbs (perhaps why I have done fewer) and I think that my results seem to be more internally consistent and make sense as a whole.

Only one person who I've consciously sent a block to review to. Explains quite clearly where I put my vote of confidence for someone who will do the job properly, and who will write commentary that matches the results.

threeputt · 10-18-2004, 09:09 PM

That's why we're all here...

j813 · 10-18-2004, 10:44 PM

vote for pH!

10-15-2004, 10:48 PM	#231
threeputt Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 78	Nice... maybe try to use a tripod for no-flash shots? or maybe you don't have one What's the bracket made out of? __________________ "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half-hour at the table, you ARE the sucker."

10-18-2004, 05:53 PM	#238
threeputt Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 78	Well, get moving!!! Off topic: How did you get it through the customs? I thought they were on strike? One of my client is in Burnaby, BC waiting for shipment from overseas... __________________ "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half-hour at the table, you ARE the sucker."

10-18-2004, 09:09 PM	#249
threeputt Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 78	That's why we're all here... __________________ "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half-hour at the table, you ARE the sucker."

10-15-2004, 07:29 PM	#230
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Well they might not be internal pictures, but here some snapshots of the exterior of the G5. Am still waiting for the proper middle plate to go with it. Basic introductory picture: The following picture is an attempt to show the lapped finish to the base-plate. It's not a polished mirror at all, nor is it intended to be. It is very flat though... ...however it is still reflective enough to shave with. ...and the following picture shows what happens if you try to use a flash to take a picture of the base... It's so hard to take a blur-free shot with no flash with the digital camera and low shutter speed... ...and still I failed, the above and this being the best out of about 12 shots. A semi-decent attempt to show the level of polish on the mounting bracket... ...and a couple of parting shots with the camera flat on the table to give as blur free of a picture as possible.

10-16-2004, 07:40 AM	#232
Delirious Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 152	Really liking the polished bracket, Im thinking I might have to polish my g4 bracket

10-16-2004, 06:32 PM	#233
moosturdsoed25 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Andover, MA, USA Posts: 14	i thought he said before it was chromed Al, correct me if I am wrong. That Ag looks killer, wow on the lapping job!

10-16-2004, 06:42 PM	#234
Edward Ng Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY, The U S of A Posts: 27	Suddenly I have a serious desire to plunk down money on a G5...

10-16-2004, 09:44 PM	#235
DryFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 148	I"ll buy your g4 off you ed.

10-16-2004, 10:21 PM	#236
Torin Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 35	Me too. :P

10-18-2004, 05:43 PM	#237
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Cathar et al. The second G4 (with stepped base) arrived today. You had said that this is a loaner to be returned, but would you rather I just forward it to a North American buyer after testing? Whatever works. I'll try and get the review up by Friday (I know everyone's salivating but much clibration remains). There is still no word on the first package which included the AlphaCool wbs. The stepped base is nice!

10-18-2004, 05:55 PM	#239
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I have no idea how that works. Possibly depends on what office it happens to go through?

10-18-2004, 06:42 PM	#240
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Second block was sent via EMS courier, so probably has some amount of customs clearance priority. Customs clearance is probably achieved through an out-sourcing of custom's duties to the courier's office, as seems to be the case for various couriers in Australia, and I would imagine that Canada is similar when it comes to priority mail services. i.e. semi-privatised customs clearance meaning that the goverment based customs clearance gets largely bypassed. Sure, happy to forward it directly to a North American buyer, however the real reason I was wanting it back is because I was thinking of forwarding it to OC.com for review.

10-18-2004, 06:45 PM	#241
Edward Ng Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scarsdale, NY, The U S of A Posts: 27	Sorry to continue off-topic, but do you recall what form of shipping the replacement midplate is coming by? And thanks again. -Ed

10-18-2004, 08:05 PM	#244
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I can send it to JoeC just as easily. I just got my coolant in the loop and am going to run the original Cascade a few times to verify that sensible numbers are coming out of the testbed. If so, I'll start running the G4 tomorrow night late (hell I might even run it tomorrow ALL night and then take a half day Wed at work).

10-18-2004, 08:40 PM	#246
moosturdsoed25 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Andover, MA, USA Posts: 14	cathar, if I make any difference, sending it to JoeC would be very monumental for your block, because his test beds make much sense to me, and no offense, test more blocks than procooling.

10-18-2004, 08:56 PM	#247
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	how could I take offense that he tests more wbs than I do? Pretty simple to just count the total number tested. In my highly biased opinion I feel I do a more thorough job of testing wbs (perhaps why I have done fewer) and I think that my results seem to be more internally consistent and make sense as a whole.

10-18-2004, 10:44 PM	#250
j813 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: southeast asia Posts: 164	vote for pH!

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