Rio Pumps

simon · 12-24-2001, 09:21 AM

First off, the people who would normally be slagging them off and me for buying them, SHUTUP! I just recieved my 350gph pump and wanted some info from anyone who has used them. How do you attach fittings to them, I have no idea. Any advice would be useful, also maintanance, what do you need to do, how often should you clean it?How?

MechCD · 12-24-2001, 10:37 AM

Maintenence = keep your warranty card

as for the fittings, this might be kind of obvoius. look at them. Do they have threads? Is one male and ones female? bring it in to a hardware store. tell them you need to get fittings for this with (insert hose ID size here) hose barbs on the end.

What size of tubing are you going to use?

If you're using 3/8ths tubing, get 3/8ths hose barbs. if your using 1/2 inch tubing, get 1/2inch hose barbs.

MechCD · 12-24-2001, 10:38 AM

Oh and by the way, i used one for about 10 mi utes and sent it back. it vibrated waaay to much for me to quiet

decodeddiesel · 12-24-2001, 03:03 PM

*shrug* I paid $30 up front for the 350 gph RIO I had...then ended up paying about $400 to replace everything it killed 1 month later when it decieded to stop working. Use it if you want, but be warned, it may have been cheap to purchase, you get exactly what you paid for. Those slide on fittings are attrocous, they are nearly impossible to get leak proof...you need top run this thing in a Res or you will be filling your system every 3 days and be cleaning a puddle off your desk. Second, forget about making the thing quiet, it rattles like a baby toy. Third, be ready for it to add heat to your system. RIOs run hot as hell for their size. Finally, good luck I hope your experience with them is better than mine.

webmedic · 12-24-2001, 03:49 PM

Well I have used rio, and hagen powerheads, ehiem and rena inlines. The rio is on ok pump but is is only ment for using submerged. You will need to get a container for a resevore to run it in. All powerheads like the rio, hagen aquaclear, maxi jet, penguins, etc. have to be run submerged thats how they are cooled. If they are not run in this way they will die within a very short amount of time. As for setting it up go down to your local hose shop and just keep testing out different fitings till you find the ones that meet your needs. Look at this for more info on it. http://www.hardforums.com/showthread...hreadid=275955

One last word I'm not trying to put them down but they will run warmer than an inline system but to be fair all powerhead pumps suffer from this same problem. On my system I noticed a 2c temp rise by using the rio over my ehiem. Make sure that you have a good radiator or you will notice more that 2c difference in your temps.

jtroutma · 12-26-2001, 11:20 PM

Ok i have to add my 2 cents here

...

I have been using a RIO 1100 inline for almost 5 months now and have had: NO leaks from the unit, NO heat problem, NO pump failures, and NO vibration problems.

That being said, now for the deatils..

I originally took two brass fittings and force screwed them into the plastic molding and used plummer tape to seal it. That did produce a tiny leak that annoyed me. So I got out some trusty 50Grit sandpaper and grinded down the insides of both ends until the brass pieces fit just snug inside and used epoxy to seal them in permenantly. Never leaked a drop since.

Reliability: I was told when I bought it that RIO's dont like to be turned off and on quite often and that it would eventually kill them. So I have the thing running 24/7 and NOT attached any way to the PSU; just running the power cord outside to another outlet. Problem solved!

Heat: My system is all run inline and the unit is just warm to the touch. It does sit right next to my front case fan so that seems to do the trick.

Vibration: Easy! Used velcro to hamper any vibrations and attach the pump to the bottom of my case.

I have yet to try any other pumps in this system but considering that this pump is keeping my T-bird @ 1.725Ghz (150x11.5) at a nice 39-40C, I think it was a good buy.

Comments? Suggestions? Hate Mail? (j/k)

Fixittt · 01-01-2002, 10:15 PM

OK all U RIO BASHERS!

I have been using RIO pumps for as long as I have been watercooling.

My first one was a RIO 800 I think, BIG SUCKER! HIGH VOLUME, it still works today, been about 3 years in service.

Now I use the small RIO 400 that DTEK puts in there system. It rattles a bit, but supergluing the impeller tot he shaft takes care of that. I have been running this pump nonstop for about 8 months now. No problems at all!

I love the rio pumps, I will not buy any other.

That is my $.000000000 cents

Brad · 01-01-2002, 10:57 PM

my pumps have about a 15mm outlet, I put some 1/2" ID tubing on them, it was damned hard to get the tubing on, but it ain't coming off. You might want to use that idea

12-24-2001, 09:21 AM	#1
simon Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London,UK Posts: 40	Rio Pumps First off, the people who would normally be slagging them off and me for buying them, SHUTUP! I just recieved my 350gph pump and wanted some info from anyone who has used them. How do you attach fittings to them, I have no idea. Any advice would be useful, also maintanance, what do you need to do, how often should you clean it?How?

12-24-2001, 03:03 PM	#4
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	shrug I paid $30 up front for the 350 gph RIO I had...then ended up paying about $400 to replace everything it killed 1 month later when it decieded to stop working. Use it if you want, but be warned, it may have been cheap to purchase, you get exactly what you paid for. Those slide on fittings are attrocous, they are nearly impossible to get leak proof...you need top run this thing in a Res or you will be filling your system every 3 days and be cleaning a puddle off your desk. Second, forget about making the thing quiet, it rattles like a baby toy. Third, be ready for it to add heat to your system. RIOs run hot as hell for their size. Finally, good luck I hope your experience with them is better than mine. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

12-24-2001, 03:49 PM	#5
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Well I have used rio, and hagen powerheads, ehiem and rena inlines. The rio is on ok pump but is is only ment for using submerged. You will need to get a container for a resevore to run it in. All powerheads like the rio, hagen aquaclear, maxi jet, penguins, etc. have to be run submerged thats how they are cooled. If they are not run in this way they will die within a very short amount of time. As for setting it up go down to your local hose shop and just keep testing out different fitings till you find the ones that meet your needs. Look at this for more info on it. http://www.hardforums.com/showthread...hreadid=275955 One last word I'm not trying to put them down but they will run warmer than an inline system but to be fair all powerhead pumps suffer from this same problem. On my system I noticed a 2c temp rise by using the rio over my ehiem. Make sure that you have a good radiator or you will notice more that 2c difference in your temps. __________________ www.water-cool.com

12-26-2001, 11:20 PM	#6
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Ok i have to add my 2 cents here ... I have been using a RIO 1100 inline for almost 5 months now and have had: NO leaks from the unit, NO heat problem, NO pump failures, and NO vibration problems. That being said, now for the deatils.. I originally took two brass fittings and force screwed them into the plastic molding and used plummer tape to seal it. That did produce a tiny leak that annoyed me. So I got out some trusty 50Grit sandpaper and grinded down the insides of both ends until the brass pieces fit just snug inside and used epoxy to seal them in permenantly. Never leaked a drop since. Reliability: I was told when I bought it that RIO's dont like to be turned off and on quite often and that it would eventually kill them. So I have the thing running 24/7 and NOT attached any way to the PSU; just running the power cord outside to another outlet. Problem solved! Heat: My system is all run inline and the unit is just warm to the touch. It does sit right next to my front case fan so that seems to do the trick. Vibration: Easy! Used velcro to hamper any vibrations and attach the pump to the bottom of my case. I have yet to try any other pumps in this system but considering that this pump is keeping my T-bird @ 1.725Ghz (150x11.5) at a nice 39-40C, I think it was a good buy. Comments? Suggestions? Hate Mail? (j/k) __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

01-01-2002, 10:15 PM	#7
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	OK all U RIO BASHERS! I have been using RIO pumps for as long as I have been watercooling. My first one was a RIO 800 I think, BIG SUCKER! HIGH VOLUME, it still works today, been about 3 years in service. Now I use the small RIO 400 that DTEK puts in there system. It rattles a bit, but supergluing the impeller tot he shaft takes care of that. I have been running this pump nonstop for about 8 months now. No problems at all! I love the rio pumps, I will not buy any other. That is my $.000000000 cents __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

12-24-2001, 10:37 AM	#2
MechCD Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 18	Maintenence = keep your warranty card as for the fittings, this might be kind of obvoius. look at them. Do they have threads? Is one male and ones female? bring it in to a hardware store. tell them you need to get fittings for this with (insert hose ID size here) hose barbs on the end. What size of tubing are you going to use? If you're using 3/8ths tubing, get 3/8ths hose barbs. if your using 1/2 inch tubing, get 1/2inch hose barbs.

12-24-2001, 10:38 AM	#3
MechCD Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 18	Oh and by the way, i used one for about 10 mi utes and sent it back. it vibrated waaay to much for me to quiet

01-01-2002, 10:57 PM	#8
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	my pumps have about a 15mm outlet, I put some 1/2" ID tubing on them, it was damned hard to get the tubing on, but it ain't coming off. You might want to use that idea

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