water cooling for a dual opteron with sli rig

sdaniel · 04-13-2005, 12:02 PM

Greetings from a water cooling noob!

I heard that this is one of the best water cooling forums around, so I though I should drop by and check it out

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So, in the next couple of months I intend to build a dual opteron rig, with sli, on a tyan k8we motherboard. Case will most probably be a Lian Li v2100b, but I'm open to suggestions.

And hell yeah, I want to water cool this bad boy

. Both CPUs and both GPUs. What I'm aiming for is a VERY quiet rig which should also be capable of handling a measly 10-15% of overclocking

.

I already asked for help and I have a possible solution. I respect the people who gave me those advices (I know some of them also read these forums), but when spending so much on water cooling and being a noob at the same time, I just feel I need a second opinion, that is, yours

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So, how would you do it?

thanks,
Daniel.

JamesAvery22 · 04-13-2005, 12:11 PM

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&highlight=sli

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli (repeat thread from the first)

Search button is your friend, tickle it every now and then

sdaniel · 04-13-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesAvery22

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&highlight=sli

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli (repeat thread from the first)

Search button is your friend, tickle it every now and then

Thanks for the links, but I only see single CPU rigs, while mine will be a dual. I would say my setup is slighly more complicated and therefore things might be different from those.

Tickling the search button with dual opteron and sli doesn't reveal so much, for now :P.

Daniel.

JamesAvery22 · 04-13-2005, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdaniel

Thanks for the links, but I only see single CPU rigs, while mine will be a dual. I would say my setup is slighly more complicated and therefore things might be different from those.

Tickling the search button with dual opteron and sli doesn't reveal so much, for now :P.

Daniel.

The guy in the second link's setup is pretty close to ideal. BIX3/50z/6002/2 x Maze4-Acetal. For your system its not more complicated than adding another 6002 block. For someone who doesnt want to do anything out of the ordinary (no external system, no car radiator etc) that setup is pretty much the best you can do unless you want to spend the $$$ on dual G5 blocks. Might want to add a NB block, might want to add another 50z or a 13.5v PS for the 50z or pair of them. Id also lose the res and just use a T line, but thats personal preference.
But taking that guys exact setup and adding another 6002 would be an awesome setup none-the-less.

sdaniel · 04-13-2005, 03:40 PM

Hehe, thanks for the advice. Pretty much what I had in mind, so it must mean that I'm on the right track with this.

I was thinking mcw6000, for 3/8 tubing. I'd love a pair of G5, but it's too freaking expensive

.

What do you think about how that guy installed his rad? Does he have enough ventilation?

I have one more issue, with which I'm hoping I can get help here. I heard about so called "low flow" systems, where supposedly you get good performance because of turbulence and not high flow. Also supposedly, it would fit better with multi-blocks setups, specificaly because of the low flow. What can you tell me about this?

thanks,
Daniel.

JamesAvery22 · 04-14-2005, 10:58 AM

Im more of a fan of this guys design:

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=17354

No fans directly on the radiator. Seal up the case so the only place air can be pulled into the case is through the rad. Have a few nice exhaust fans and you have a very quiet setup.

nexxo · 04-19-2005, 02:19 PM

Well, here's my dual Opteron 250 rig (work in progress). Not SLI, but basically that makes not much difference to the setup --you just need a BIX2 instead of a BIX, which combined with an (aluminium) Panaflo L1A in this case gives me temps from 40-45C on teh CPUs.

In due time I may switch to the new MSI dual Opteron SLI board, and put the whole thing in a Lian-Li V1000B case with a chrome BIX2.

By the way, just for kicks here a pic when it still carried a K7D-Master-L with dual MPs.

sdaniel · 04-19-2005, 02:46 PM

Awesome rig man!

What blocks are those? What pump?

nexxo · 04-19-2005, 03:10 PM

The blocks are a pair of Phaze II blocks by Paul Vodrazka. Unfortunately they are not made anymore. I had to get new mounting collars CNC'd by a CNC wiz on Bit-Tech forums (called Enak) to adapt them to the new board. The GPU block is a Maze4GPU, which I had sandblasted and then polished myself to a chrome finish.

The pump is a Davies-Craig EBP --comparable to the Swiftech MCP650 in performance. The hose clamp on it is a Pi-Thon hoseclamp (originally for car customizing. The mounting bracket for the pump/fan/rad assembly and the support bracket for the Graphic Card are my own design and build. The res is an Aquatube which was drilled out and tapped for larger diameter barbs and tubing. The whole liquid cooling loop can be lifted out of the case in one piece, without emptying it. I have a Swissflow SF800 flow sensor mounted on the res which, connected to the RPM sensor of the mobo, tells me that flow is about 1.7 litres per minute. I use PF-5080 Fluorinert as coolant.

sdaniel · 04-20-2005, 05:04 AM

Dude... can I hire you?

KuniD · 04-20-2005, 07:52 AM

Another 2CPU'er welcome!

Here's a link to my K8WE dual opteron / SLI watercooling project;

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=11010

I haven't updated / added to it recently; as far as water cooling parts go I pretty much have everything, still working with Trodas so that I can get my hands a double res based on his tank-o-matic design.

I'd definitely recommend a dual loop system. I don't think its possible to water cool the chipsets, because of their location near the PCI-E slots.

nexxo · 04-20-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdaniel

Dude... can I hire you?

I'm a bit busy right now, but you can always e-mail me for advice/opinion.

Blackeagle · 04-30-2005, 12:04 PM

I really love the pi-thon clamps, but pretty expensive to do a rig with them. Would make a great show stopper of a rig though.

nexxo · 05-02-2005, 01:52 PM

They're awesome quality. Expense is relative, of course. Some people pay hundreds of bucks to gain a few extra fps... I'd say in that case a couple of tenners is worth the outlay for a really quality finish.

Senater_Cache · 05-02-2005, 05:26 PM

damn, that is one of the nicest design Ive seen .
I remember when you were making all of these parts in your journal thread....turned out nicely !!!!

04-13-2005, 12:02 PM	#1
sdaniel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 5	water cooling for a dual opteron with sli rig Greetings from a water cooling noob! I heard that this is one of the best water cooling forums around, so I though I should drop by and check it out . So, in the next couple of months I intend to build a dual opteron rig, with sli, on a tyan k8we motherboard. Case will most probably be a Lian Li v2100b, but I'm open to suggestions. And hell yeah, I want to water cool this bad boy . Both CPUs and both GPUs. What I'm aiming for is a VERY quiet rig which should also be capable of handling a measly 10-15% of overclocking . I already asked for help and I have a possible solution. I respect the people who gave me those advices (I know some of them also read these forums), but when spending so much on water cooling and being a noob at the same time, I just feel I need a second opinion, that is, yours . So, how would you do it? thanks, Daniel.

04-13-2005, 12:11 PM	#2
JamesAvery22 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 383	http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&highlight=sli http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...&highlight=sli (repeat thread from the first) Search button is your friend, tickle it every now and then __________________ Stabbing. My Heatware

04-14-2005, 10:58 AM	#6
JamesAvery22 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 383	Im more of a fan of this guys design: http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=17354 No fans directly on the radiator. Seal up the case so the only place air can be pulled into the case is through the rad. Have a few nice exhaust fans and you have a very quiet setup. __________________ Stabbing. My Heatware

04-19-2005, 02:19 PM	#7
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	Well, here's my dual Opteron 250 rig (work in progress). Not SLI, but basically that makes not much difference to the setup --you just need a BIX2 instead of a BIX, which combined with an (aluminium) Panaflo L1A in this case gives me temps from 40-45C on teh CPUs. In due time I may switch to the new MSI dual Opteron SLI board, and put the whole thing in a Lian-Li V1000B case with a chrome BIX2. By the way, just for kicks here a pic when it still carried a K7D-Master-L with dual MPs. __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

04-19-2005, 03:10 PM	#9
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	The blocks are a pair of Phaze II blocks by Paul Vodrazka. Unfortunately they are not made anymore. I had to get new mounting collars CNC'd by a CNC wiz on Bit-Tech forums (called Enak) to adapt them to the new board. The GPU block is a Maze4GPU, which I had sandblasted and then polished myself to a chrome finish. The pump is a Davies-Craig EBP --comparable to the Swiftech MCP650 in performance. The hose clamp on it is a Pi-Thon hoseclamp (originally for car customizing. The mounting bracket for the pump/fan/rad assembly and the support bracket for the Graphic Card are my own design and build. The res is an Aquatube which was drilled out and tapped for larger diameter barbs and tubing. The whole liquid cooling loop can be lifted out of the case in one piece, without emptying it. I have a Swissflow SF800 flow sensor mounted on the res which, connected to the RPM sensor of the mobo, tells me that flow is about 1.7 litres per minute. I use PF-5080 Fluorinert as coolant. __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

04-13-2005, 03:40 PM	#5
sdaniel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 5	Hehe, thanks for the advice. Pretty much what I had in mind, so it must mean that I'm on the right track with this. I was thinking mcw6000, for 3/8 tubing. I'd love a pair of G5, but it's too freaking expensive . What do you think about how that guy installed his rad? Does he have enough ventilation? I have one more issue, with which I'm hoping I can get help here. I heard about so called "low flow" systems, where supposedly you get good performance because of turbulence and not high flow. Also supposedly, it would fit better with multi-blocks setups, specificaly because of the low flow. What can you tell me about this? thanks, Daniel.

04-19-2005, 02:46 PM	#8
sdaniel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 5	Awesome rig man! What blocks are those? What pump?

04-20-2005, 05:04 AM	#10
sdaniel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 5	Dude... can I hire you?

04-20-2005, 07:52 AM	#11
KuniD Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London Posts: 41	Another 2CPU'er welcome! Here's a link to my K8WE dual opteron / SLI watercooling project; http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=11010 I haven't updated / added to it recently; as far as water cooling parts go I pretty much have everything, still working with Trodas so that I can get my hands a double res based on his tank-o-matic design. I'd definitely recommend a dual loop system. I don't think its possible to water cool the chipsets, because of their location near the PCI-E slots.

04-30-2005, 12:04 PM	#13
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	I really love the pi-thon clamps, but pretty expensive to do a rig with them. Would make a great show stopper of a rig though.

05-02-2005, 01:52 PM	#14
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	They're awesome quality. Expense is relative, of course. Some people pay hundreds of bucks to gain a few extra fps... I'd say in that case a couple of tenners is worth the outlay for a really quality finish. __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

05-02-2005, 05:26 PM	#15
Senater_Cache Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: F L Posts: 125	damn, that is one of the nicest design Ive seen . I remember when you were making all of these parts in your journal thread....turned out nicely !!!!

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