Swiftech H20-APEX Kit

Cathar · 07-21-2005, 04:27 PM

maxSaleen · 07-21-2005, 07:19 PM

.....Cool.....

(Literally and Figuratively)

jaydee · 07-21-2005, 08:28 PM

Nice... Waiting for Swiftechs heat pipe next.... (just guessing they are making one though ).

maxSaleen · 07-21-2005, 09:15 PM

I've been thinking the same thing (about the heatpipe) for a while. The present MCX series really aren't competetive anymore with the likes of Thermalright's and Cooler Master's giant heatpipe coolers.

Delirious · 07-21-2005, 09:47 PM

Thats an interesting end tank design on the radiator. Any specific reason why they are sloped inward?

To help channel the flow more smoothly?

Remote Man · 07-21-2005, 09:55 PM

Congrats to Cathar, BillA and swiftech for moving enthusiast watercooling the way it needs to go.
Quiet yet with performance far beyond any aircool solution.
And thanks go to BillA/swiftech for listening.

jaydee · 07-21-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirious

Thats an interesting end tank design on the radiator. Any specific reason why they are sloped inward?

To help channel the flow more smoothly?

My best guess is to help bleed the air better.

Pessimisten · 07-21-2005, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirious

Thats an interesting end tank design on the radiator. Any specific reason why they are sloped inward?

To help channel the flow more smoothly?

Patent-pending Self purging plenum chambers design: when installed upright or on its side, air cannot accumulate in the plenum chambers

Source:http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCR220.asp

Jag · 07-22-2005, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pessimisten

Patent-pending Self purging plenum chambers design: when installed upright or on its side, air cannot accumulate in the plenum chambers

Source:http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCR220.asp

The patent pending on something already seen in the market for so many years before, really escapes my comprehension.

Take a look at Cathar's Little Arse radiator, especially the dual fan one, and note the resemblance to this NEW Apex radiator.

The whole concept of "self purging plenum chambers design" is already there. :shrug:

RaptorRaider · 07-22-2005, 07:13 AM

It even has fan adaptors and 7/16'' ID (5/8'' OD) tubing...

Bloody_Sorcerer · 07-22-2005, 04:36 PM

pretty much all i have to say is congrats swiftech and cathar!

HammerSandwich · 07-23-2005, 12:47 AM

That kit looks excellent! I'm most impressed by how much radiator they're offering for the money. However, those fans will NEVER satisfy the silent-PC crowd.

Cathar · 07-23-2005, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HammerSandwich

However, those fans will NEVER satisfy the silent-PC crowd.

I do agree here, but unless kit reviewers start factoring in noise levels into reviews, the only thing that counts is cooling performance, and the fans that Swiftech provides are generally in about the same ballpark as what most other kit makers offer.

I would say that Swiftech here have erred on the side of excellent radiator cooling performance in a way that is competitive with other kits, rather than true low-noise, which unfortunately does cost in terms of performance. The silent-PC crowd fan powers go about as high as 50cfm, with the 1350rpm Yate-Loon's providing around 45cfm @ 22dBA. Really need a tri-fan radiator to be upper-end radiator-performance competitive when using true low-noise fans.

When done really properly, could get a tri-fan yate-loon driven radiator down to around 0.020C/W, but that's not going to be something that can be easily placed in or on most cases.

kaotic504 · 07-24-2005, 04:06 PM

i noticed that the radiator is now significantly slimmer. it's now right between a Black Ice Pro and a Black Ice Extreme. that's a welcomed change. i've always felt that the BIX was a bit thick. does HWLabs manufacture the radiators for Swiftech? if so, when will they release their radiators? i'm still waiting to see their Single Pass radiator. I think if that one performs as well as the PA160, that belongs in the APEX kit.

peepingdan · 07-24-2005, 05:15 PM

Wow... that radiator leaves a lot of modding ideas in my head... a 120mm fan mounted in the PCI bay cooling off all the PCI cards and exhausting it through the radiator? Naw... never!

redleader · 07-25-2005, 08:00 PM

Looking at the pictures, it looks like the radbox and dual radiator block all the expansion slots, including VGA connectors. Is that right?

AngryAlpaca · 07-26-2005, 09:02 AM

It does not - just the camera angle shows that. If you'll note, the radbox isn't quite as the right-most edge of the PCI slot holes.

pHaestus · 07-26-2005, 04:50 PM

Could be a problem with dual display vid cards though I guess. Or people like me stuck with DVI to VGA adapters on newer cards with DVI out only...

Autobot · 08-08-2005, 03:02 PM

One bit of warning for you folks that have the Swiftech Storm block. This may be common or perhaps it only happened to me. However, I'm guessing that this is a common thing with threading a plastic barb into a hard material. When I received my Storm block I threaded the 1/2" barbs in and then took them back off and noticed some very fine plastic string which I can figure was a little bit of the plastic barb threads that came off when threading it into the delrin top. These fine strings if not removed will clog the tiny jets in the Storm's mid-plate. The string are easily removed with a pair of tweezers and a can of compressed air. Just check your Storm block for the stringy stuff before you put your WCing system all together.

Etacovda · 08-18-2005, 11:15 AM

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1250/

looks like a good review, i see joe took the disclaimer onboard.

I love the fact it beats out the asetek whilst using a dual rad vs a triple, fantastic stuff.

AngryAlpaca · 08-19-2005, 12:13 PM

Hehe... There's an advertisement in the disclaimer.

07-21-2005, 04:27 PM	#1
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Swiftech H20-APEX Kit Swiftech H2O-APEX

07-23-2005, 12:47 AM	#12
HammerSandwich Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 15143 Posts: 358	That kit looks excellent! I'm most impressed by how much radiator they're offering for the money. However, those fans will NEVER satisfy the silent-PC crowd. __________________ www.procooling.com: It's true we are often a bunch of assholes

07-26-2005, 04:50 PM	#18
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Could be a problem with dual display vid cards though I guess. Or people like me stuck with DVI to VGA adapters on newer cards with DVI out only... __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

08-18-2005, 11:15 AM	#20
Etacovda Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dunedin NZ Posts: 735	http://www.overclockers.com/articles1250/ looks like a good review, i see joe took the disclaimer onboard. I love the fact it beats out the asetek whilst using a dual rad vs a triple, fantastic stuff. __________________ Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights.

07-21-2005, 07:19 PM	#2
maxSaleen Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 383	.....Cool..... (Literally and Figuratively)

07-21-2005, 08:28 PM	#3
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Nice... Waiting for Swiftechs heat pipe next.... (just guessing they are making one though ).

07-21-2005, 09:15 PM	#4
maxSaleen Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 383	I've been thinking the same thing (about the heatpipe) for a while. The present MCX series really aren't competetive anymore with the likes of Thermalright's and Cooler Master's giant heatpipe coolers.

07-21-2005, 09:47 PM	#5
Delirious Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Twilight Zone Posts: 152	Thats an interesting end tank design on the radiator. Any specific reason why they are sloped inward? To help channel the flow more smoothly?

07-21-2005, 09:55 PM	#6
Remote Man Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austraila Posts: 8	Congrats to Cathar, BillA and swiftech for moving enthusiast watercooling the way it needs to go. Quiet yet with performance far beyond any aircool solution. And thanks go to BillA/swiftech for listening.

07-22-2005, 07:13 AM	#10
RaptorRaider Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 70	It even has fan adaptors and 7/16'' ID (5/8'' OD) tubing...

07-22-2005, 04:36 PM	#11
Bloody_Sorcerer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near frozenCPU Posts: 55	pretty much all i have to say is congrats swiftech and cathar!

07-24-2005, 04:06 PM	#14
kaotic504 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 86	i noticed that the radiator is now significantly slimmer. it's now right between a Black Ice Pro and a Black Ice Extreme. that's a welcomed change. i've always felt that the BIX was a bit thick. does HWLabs manufacture the radiators for Swiftech? if so, when will they release their radiators? i'm still waiting to see their Single Pass radiator. I think if that one performs as well as the PA160, that belongs in the APEX kit.

07-24-2005, 05:15 PM	#15
peepingdan Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Gatos, California Posts: 58	Wow... that radiator leaves a lot of modding ideas in my head... a 120mm fan mounted in the PCI bay cooling off all the PCI cards and exhausting it through the radiator? Naw... never!

07-25-2005, 08:00 PM	#16
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Looking at the pictures, it looks like the radbox and dual radiator block all the expansion slots, including VGA connectors. Is that right?

07-26-2005, 09:02 AM	#17
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	It does not - just the camera angle shows that. If you'll note, the radbox isn't quite as the right-most edge of the PCI slot holes.

08-08-2005, 03:02 PM	#19
Autobot Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 29	One bit of warning for you folks that have the Swiftech Storm block. This may be common or perhaps it only happened to me. However, I'm guessing that this is a common thing with threading a plastic barb into a hard material. When I received my Storm block I threaded the 1/2" barbs in and then took them back off and noticed some very fine plastic string which I can figure was a little bit of the plastic barb threads that came off when threading it into the delrin top. These fine strings if not removed will clog the tiny jets in the Storm's mid-plate. The string are easily removed with a pair of tweezers and a can of compressed air. Just check your Storm block for the stringy stuff before you put your WCing system all together.

08-19-2005, 12:13 PM	#21
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	Hehe... There's an advertisement in the disclaimer.

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