EBM-Papst Watercooling?

billbartuska · 07-23-2006, 10:13 AM

Comments?
http://www.ebmpapst.us/News/aquacube.htm

JamesAvery22 · 07-24-2006, 06:18 AM

"Densely integrated fan/pump unit, hermetically sealed"

Wonder why they did that? Compactness doesn't really warrant using the same motor to drive a fan and a pump head... Its sure looks like its a direct drive pump and the pump head and the fan blades share the same axle and the same magnet. Wonder what bearings they use and how they compare to the C-Systems mag design.
A direct drive pump can be very small, very quiet, and have great head, but I'm just questioning reliability. Wonder if they have any working prototypes.

Block isn't bad. Nozzles over a pin fin design. Performance probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a WW design?

Regardless it will come down to that 92mm radiator. Not going to squeeze much out of that.

And isn't this a bit late in the game to offer one of these kind of cooling solutions to OEMs? Who other than Alienware ever used one? And that was to cool multiple GPUs and the CPU. This thing wouldn't be able to handle that. Not to mention Intel's new drive to reduce power consumption which eliminates the need for anything like this. They should make it a more modular setup and aim it at enthusiasts. Follow Corsair's footsteps. It's slick on looks and has some kool design ideas, but I think its dumb to aim it at OEM's.

JamesAvery22 · 07-26-2006, 12:06 PM

wth is up with pump + fan combos?

http://www.sunonusa.com/index2.asp?f=news&p=pr_waturbo

jaydee · 07-26-2006, 07:14 PM

It is good there is a fan there. The mobo's mosfets and other hot parts could use it. Not sure about it being driven by the pump motor though. I can see the fan getting clogged up with dust and lint causing problems. Would be hard to clean as well. I think they they should have made it a take off the unit fan so it could be replaced or easily cleaned.

But I am not an engineer and they seem to be the holy grail to some here.....

07-23-2006, 10:13 AM	#1
billbartuska Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Skokie, Illinois Posts: 322	EBM-Papst Watercooling? Comments? http://www.ebmpapst.us/News/aquacube.htm __________________ My new rig.... Intel SE440BX-3, PIII 550 (@ 680) MX440 275/332 (@ 350/400) and 3DFX Voodo 5 5500 160/160 (@180/180) Two Opticals and 120 gigs (w/28gigs in RAID0) on 4 Maxstors

07-24-2006, 06:18 AM	#2
JamesAvery22 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 383	Re: EBM-Papst Watercooling? "Densely integrated fan/pump unit, hermetically sealed" Wonder why they did that? Compactness doesn't really warrant using the same motor to drive a fan and a pump head... Its sure looks like its a direct drive pump and the pump head and the fan blades share the same axle and the same magnet. Wonder what bearings they use and how they compare to the C-Systems mag design. A direct drive pump can be very small, very quiet, and have great head, but I'm just questioning reliability. Wonder if they have any working prototypes. Block isn't bad. Nozzles over a pin fin design. Performance probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a WW design? Regardless it will come down to that 92mm radiator. Not going to squeeze much out of that. And isn't this a bit late in the game to offer one of these kind of cooling solutions to OEMs? Who other than Alienware ever used one? And that was to cool multiple GPUs and the CPU. This thing wouldn't be able to handle that. Not to mention Intel's new drive to reduce power consumption which eliminates the need for anything like this. They should make it a more modular setup and aim it at enthusiasts. Follow Corsair's footsteps. It's slick on looks and has some kool design ideas, but I think its dumb to aim it at OEM's. __________________ Stabbing. My Heatware

07-26-2006, 12:06 PM	#3
JamesAvery22 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 383	Re: EBM-Papst Watercooling? wth is up with pump + fan combos? http://www.sunonusa.com/index2.asp?f=news&p=pr_waturbo __________________ Stabbing. My Heatware

07-26-2006, 07:14 PM	#4
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Re: EBM-Papst Watercooling? It is good there is a fan there. The mobo's mosfets and other hot parts could use it. Not sure about it being driven by the pump motor though. I can see the fan getting clogged up with dust and lint causing problems. Would be hard to clean as well. I think they they should have made it a take off the unit fan so it could be replaced or easily cleaned. But I am not an engineer and they seem to be the holy grail to some here.....

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