Building my first water cooling setup, have questions.

Jim · 02-06-2002, 01:00 PM

My first post here at "Pro Forums".

I am working on my first water cooling setup. I have the Eheim pump, Maze2, using a big Ford Van heater core mounted outside the case. I am not using a tank.

First question is that I would like to mount the heater core with the inlets on the bottom. These will be inline horizontally with the suction inlet on the pump setting in the bottom of the Antec 840. Is this OK? Must I mount the heater core with the inlets at the top? I want them on the bottom to reduce pipe length. The top of the radiator will be about even with the water block in height.

Secondly, what is a good way to fill a sealed system with a riser pipe? I have viewed several sealed setups on the web and I cannot see how they could be filled by placing the pump in a bucket full of water + water wetter.

Last, I am not certain as to where the "T" and the riser (air chamber) should go. I was thinking between the block and the suction inlet of the pump.

Thanks much,

Jim

Brad · 02-06-2002, 01:24 PM

it doesn't matter at all if the rad is upside down or not. You may get some air trapped in it though if it is upside down, so when you are filling it, be careful.

If you've already got a fill tube, I'd just use that, just pour your mixture in until it gets near the top of the fill tube. Then turn the pump on, wait until the level of the mixture in the fill tube drops right down, turn the pump off, and fill it up again. If it doesn't drop too much, then you don't need to turn the pump off. Just remember no mag drive pumps like pumping water

DigitalChaos · 02-06-2002, 01:29 PM

*no magdrive pumps like pumping AIR

Jim · 02-06-2002, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalChaos
*no magdrive pumps like pumping AIR

Thanks for the responses guys, but what do you mean "no magdrive pumps like pumping water"? And "air" as stated by Digital?
Jim

DigitalChaos · 02-06-2002, 04:07 PM

we meant that when filling... dont let air start going through the pump... all of these pumps CAN NOT be run dry

IMO its fine as long as there is still flow... just make sure you get out all the air before you run your system.

Jim · 02-06-2002, 04:15 PM

Thanks again Digitalchaos,

I don't want to fry my Eheim. I suppose the best way to get the air out with a filler tube set up is to stand by and watch adding fluid when required.

I was studying the "Swiftech" triple valve setup for filling the system, seems like a lot of hardware to get the job done. Hope I can succeed without it.

Jim

Brad · 02-06-2002, 07:14 PM

sorry, I was just not with it. I meant to say mag drives don't like pumping air.

the swiftech system is a bit overdone, all you need is a T and a fill tube

Jim · 02-06-2002, 09:02 PM

Brad-
Thanks, and glad I can do this with just a "T" and a fill tube.

Jim

02-06-2002, 01:00 PM	#1
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Building my first water cooling setup, have questions. My first post here at "Pro Forums". I am working on my first water cooling setup. I have the Eheim pump, Maze2, using a big Ford Van heater core mounted outside the case. I am not using a tank. First question is that I would like to mount the heater core with the inlets on the bottom. These will be inline horizontally with the suction inlet on the pump setting in the bottom of the Antec 840. Is this OK? Must I mount the heater core with the inlets at the top? I want them on the bottom to reduce pipe length. The top of the radiator will be about even with the water block in height. Secondly, what is a good way to fill a sealed system with a riser pipe? I have viewed several sealed setups on the web and I cannot see how they could be filled by placing the pump in a bucket full of water + water wetter. Last, I am not certain as to where the "T" and the riser (air chamber) should go. I was thinking between the block and the suction inlet of the pump. Thanks much, Jim

02-06-2002, 01:24 PM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	it doesn't matter at all if the rad is upside down or not. You may get some air trapped in it though if it is upside down, so when you are filling it, be careful. If you've already got a fill tube, I'd just use that, just pour your mixture in until it gets near the top of the fill tube. Then turn the pump on, wait until the level of the mixture in the fill tube drops right down, turn the pump off, and fill it up again. If it doesn't drop too much, then you don't need to turn the pump off. Just remember no mag drive pumps like pumping water __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-06-2002, 07:14 PM	#7
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	sorry, I was just not with it. I meant to say mag drives don't like pumping air. the swiftech system is a bit overdone, all you need is a T and a fill tube __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-06-2002, 01:29 PM	#3
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	*no magdrive pumps like pumping AIR

02-06-2002, 04:07 PM	#5
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	we meant that when filling... dont let air start going through the pump... all of these pumps CAN NOT be run dry IMO its fine as long as there is still flow... just make sure you get out all the air before you run your system.

02-06-2002, 04:15 PM	#6
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Thanks again Digitalchaos, I don't want to fry my Eheim. I suppose the best way to get the air out with a filler tube set up is to stand by and watch adding fluid when required. I was studying the "Swiftech" triple valve setup for filling the system, seems like a lot of hardware to get the job done. Hope I can succeed without it. Jim

02-06-2002, 09:02 PM	#8
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Brad- Thanks, and glad I can do this with just a "T" and a fill tube. Jim

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