My system, Is it good enough?

mkosem · 02-25-2002, 03:02 PM

I have this eheim 1048 pump in my system. It should still be enough to cool me down right? Here's my setup:

EHEIM 1048
JaggedEdge WB
BigMama Radiator
Distilled Water with Water Wetter

I will be adding a maze 1c-1 to the mix sometime soon, this block has much less resistance than my current block. From my calculations, this cooling system as it stands seems to have an efficiency of .08C/w which is also prety good. I will be goin back to my 156W pelt again, but this time I will be powering it with a 15v PSU instead of the 12v off of the system psu(baaaad experience). Anything else I should know?

--MAtt

Brad · 02-25-2002, 06:21 PM

yeah that will be fine, .08c/w is really good, even if you are using the insocket diode, most of them aren't too far out. (go to arctic silver's site for details on how to calibrate it)

mkosem · 02-26-2002, 05:18 AM

hmm, very good, anyone else?

--Matt

mkosem · 02-26-2002, 03:07 PM

I suppose the thing I am most worried about is the pump. is 158gph good enough?

--MAtt

Brad · 02-26-2002, 04:21 PM

158gph is enough, unless you have a major restriction, like a 1/4" ID point somewhere, or a large amount of 90 degree turns.

mkosem · 02-26-2002, 07:53 PM

I will actually be going away from the 1/4" IPT fittings once the maze1c-1 comes.

--Matt

mkosem · 02-27-2002, 01:16 PM

would it be a bad idea to put my 120mm rad that is pictured here and here inline in my system before the bigmama to get some of the heat out of the water before it gets to the heatercore? I will be replumbing my system next week. keep in mind I will also have a 156w pelt adding to the heat there.

--Matt

ondaedg · 02-27-2002, 02:16 PM

there is no real significant gain from adding that small radiator to the cooling loop. As long as you have adequate airflow, the Big Mama radiator should provide more than enough cooling for your system even with a peltier. All that extra radiator is going to do is add complexity to your system. Like most things in life, the KISS rule applies to watercooling as well. So Keep IT Simple Stu... I mean Smarty! =]

mkosem · 02-27-2002, 02:20 PM

heh, thx onda

--Matt

Brad · 02-27-2002, 02:49 PM

the heater core will handle 800w heatloads without an issue, with another rad you are just lowering flow rates, and adding size, complexity

scythe · 02-27-2002, 06:27 PM

i ordered my maze2 and ehiem from dangerden will be here monday my dad finaly got around to ordering my 1976 chevette heatercore should be here by monday also or friday. I NEED A 120 mm fan i dont have one

Brad · 02-27-2002, 06:58 PM

just use 4x 80mm's instead

scythe · 02-27-2002, 07:51 PM

im going to order a panaflow Low 120mm or a enermax clear one with the rheobus built in dunno yet but im going to make a shroud and i dont want to make it for a few 80mm's that im not going to always use i plan on switching all of my fans in my case to panaflo's later on

Brad · 02-27-2002, 07:59 PM

the enermax one is probably the best because it is already equipped with a rheostat

scythe · 02-27-2002, 10:07 PM

ya and it tailed and comes with a grill

but the lowest it can go is down to 34dba

mkosem · 02-27-2002, 10:53 PM

I guess I will duct an H1A or 2 at 7V onto my rad

--Matt

Brad · 02-27-2002, 11:25 PM

scythe, thats from 12v though. if you run it at 7v you will offset it by almost half

mkosem · 02-28-2002, 05:32 AM

hehe, ooh! I guess I will just run my fans in series on the 15v psu. that should give me 7.5V in pairs which aught to be excellent!!

--Matt

Brad · 02-28-2002, 02:25 PM

yeah, that will be a cool mod, I have had the odd issue with two fans in series, with them drawing differant currents, even the same model of fan

mkosem · 02-28-2002, 04:57 PM

I had this pair of fans running together in series off of the 12v line before, they seem to be OK. They are panaflow H1A's so even at 5v they push a reasonable amount of air

--Matt

02-25-2002, 03:02 PM	#1
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	My system, Is it good enough? I have this eheim 1048 pump in my system. It should still be enough to cool me down right? Here's my setup: EHEIM 1048 JaggedEdge WB BigMama Radiator Distilled Water with Water Wetter I will be adding a maze 1c-1 to the mix sometime soon, this block has much less resistance than my current block. From my calculations, this cooling system as it stands seems to have an efficiency of .08C/w which is also prety good. I will be goin back to my 156W pelt again, but this time I will be powering it with a 15v PSU instead of the 12v off of the system psu(baaaad experience). Anything else I should know? --MAtt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-25-2002, 06:21 PM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	yeah that will be fine, .08c/w is really good, even if you are using the insocket diode, most of them aren't too far out. (go to arctic silver's site for details on how to calibrate it) __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-26-2002, 05:18 AM	#3
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	hmm, very good, anyone else? --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-26-2002, 03:07 PM	#4
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	I suppose the thing I am most worried about is the pump. is 158gph good enough? --MAtt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-26-2002, 04:21 PM	#5
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	158gph is enough, unless you have a major restriction, like a 1/4" ID point somewhere, or a large amount of 90 degree turns. __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-26-2002, 07:53 PM	#6
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	I will actually be going away from the 1/4" IPT fittings once the maze1c-1 comes. --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-27-2002, 01:16 PM	#7
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	would it be a bad idea to put my 120mm rad that is pictured here and here inline in my system before the bigmama to get some of the heat out of the water before it gets to the heatercore? I will be replumbing my system next week. keep in mind I will also have a 156w pelt adding to the heat there. --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-27-2002, 02:16 PM	#8
ondaedg Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 130	there is no real significant gain from adding that small radiator to the cooling loop. As long as you have adequate airflow, the Big Mama radiator should provide more than enough cooling for your system even with a peltier. All that extra radiator is going to do is add complexity to your system. Like most things in life, the KISS rule applies to watercooling as well. So Keep IT Simple Stu... I mean Smarty! =] __________________ ondaedg@procooling.com

02-27-2002, 02:20 PM	#9
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	heh, thx onda --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-27-2002, 02:49 PM	#10
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	the heater core will handle 800w heatloads without an issue, with another rad you are just lowering flow rates, and adding size, complexity __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-27-2002, 06:27 PM	#11
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	i ordered my maze2 and ehiem from dangerden will be here monday my dad finaly got around to ordering my 1976 chevette heatercore should be here by monday also or friday. I NEED A 120 mm fan i dont have one __________________ ...[-_-]... +-{ i }-+ ....[][].....

02-27-2002, 06:58 PM	#12
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	just use 4x 80mm's instead __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-27-2002, 07:51 PM	#13
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	im going to order a panaflow Low 120mm or a enermax clear one with the rheobus built in dunno yet but im going to make a shroud and i dont want to make it for a few 80mm's that im not going to always use i plan on switching all of my fans in my case to panaflo's later on __________________ ...[-_-]... +-{ i }-+ ....[][].....

02-27-2002, 07:59 PM	#14
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	the enermax one is probably the best because it is already equipped with a rheostat __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-27-2002, 10:07 PM	#15
scythe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fp , michigan Posts: 76	ya and it tailed and comes with a grill but the lowest it can go is down to 34dba __________________ ...[-_-]... +-{ i }-+ ....[][].....

02-27-2002, 10:53 PM	#16
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	I guess I will duct an H1A or 2 at 7V onto my rad --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-27-2002, 11:25 PM	#17
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	scythe, thats from 12v though. if you run it at 7v you will offset it by almost half __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-28-2002, 05:32 AM	#18
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	hehe, ooh! I guess I will just run my fans in series on the 15v psu. that should give me 7.5V in pairs which aught to be excellent!! --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

02-28-2002, 02:25 PM	#19
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	yeah, that will be a cool mod, I have had the odd issue with two fans in series, with them drawing differant currents, even the same model of fan __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-28-2002, 04:57 PM	#20
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	I had this pair of fans running together in series off of the 12v line before, they seem to be OK. They are panaflow H1A's so even at 5v they push a reasonable amount of air --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

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