Relic of ancient times...

MeltMan · 03-20-2002, 07:20 PM

I found this in an archeological dig the other day... I thought it would make the ultimate case decoration... If we get the temperature of this beast down to about absolute zero, you think we could squeeze an extra megahert out of it?

#Rotor · 03-20-2002, 07:52 PM

Intel and AMD on one chip..... wow, that is old.... you should get it carbon dated...

if memory serves me right, that ones from around 20,000,000 BC scientific name "Siliconoxios Xtious", If I'm not mistaken.

Joe · 03-20-2002, 07:57 PM

rofl NICE!

hehe I gotta dig up my Zenith Data systems 8086 system

MeltMan · 03-20-2002, 08:07 PM

made in malaysia

I bet it still works... but who would have the hour to spare waiting for it to boot? Let alone a mobo that would run it...

Anyone know why both AMD and Intel are on this chip? Its obviously made by AMD, but is it just the intel copyright?

Joe · 03-20-2002, 08:11 PM

Yeh Before Intel owned a billion fabs, AMD did Fab'n for them!

MeltMan · 03-20-2002, 08:13 PM

wow.. Its like the rise and fall of an empire, with intel and all... AMD was there from the start. Coolness.. thanks Joe

Brad · 03-21-2002, 01:28 AM

I wonder if it uses the 4 mobo mounting holes :P

should take it into a computer shop and ask for an upgrade to a 2mhz chip

MeltMan · 03-21-2002, 01:40 AM

hehe, ironically, I'm using the same 120mm papst fan from that computer to cool my radiator... It works perfectly. Some things just dont get outdated.

Stepback · 03-21-2002, 05:17 AM

I have working motherboards w/cpu from 8088 to the P3. I thought the old 8088 Cpu's where 8mhz?Also have an old timex sinclair w/tape recorder. I figure one day I'll show my grand kids what we had for computers back in the day.

Didn't Intel give AMD the rights to the 386 and 486 (ie. x86 microcode) because the us gov wouldn't buy products from a single source? Being that AMD was already making Intel chips they didn't have to worry about finding or starting another company. Thus speeding up the process of having more than one source.

UnaClocker · 03-21-2002, 08:04 AM

My old 8088 ran at 10MHz, but I do believe there was an 8MHz variety too. 4.77MHz was common at the beginning too. Intel also licensed the technology to NEC to have them fab some chips too, but NEC took the design and optimized it and came out with the NEC V20, a direct drop in replacement that was supposed to give 12MHz worth of performance without changing the clockgen on the board from the original 10MHz one.. heh.. Ahhh the good old days.. I ran a BBS on my old 8088 for awhile.. Man that sucked.

Butcher · 03-21-2002, 08:21 AM

4.77MHz was "normal", then it was "turboed" to 8 (hence the turbo switch, some stuff didn't work that fast), then "doubled" to 9.54MHz. That was as fast as they got till the 286 with it's mighty 12, 16 and I believe 20MHz versions.

MeltMan · 03-21-2002, 11:15 AM

Heh, I never owned a 286 myself... But I did end up acquiring a compaq 386 DX33. That computer happened to have a 486 socket in it and my brother-in-law blowtorched a 486 SX25 out of a broken mobo. I crammed the chip into the LIF socket and behold! It still worked, but didnt give any performance boost over the 386.

UnaClocker · 03-21-2002, 01:35 PM

Heh, I remember when my father bought a 486sx/25 to replace our 286.. I was so pissed.. I ended up getting an AMD 386/40 and tossing in a math co-processor.. Needless to say, it ran circles around my father's mistake.

hehe.. Long live AMD!
BTW.. Intel never made a 386/40..

Just like they never took the 486 past 100, or Socket 7 past 233...

#Rotor · 03-21-2002, 07:52 PM

I had the mother of all CPU's... The DX4-120 from non other...

ran circles around the newly introduced pentium 75 and then some.... never ever had a pentuim.... got the k6-2 233 after that, and then I must have lost all my little piglets..... went and baught a P2 333. SHAME ON ME ......

but I did make it suffer for all it's worth....

EMC2 · 03-21-2002, 08:44 PM

You guys really gotta stop this, you're making me want to pull out my old S100 bus beast and wax nostalgic

PsionicMan · 03-22-2002, 07:36 PM

Hey, MeltMan, can I get a high res version of that to use in a wallpaper?

Heavy_Equipment · 03-22-2002, 08:37 PM

I had a Vic 20, and that's all I'm gonna say.

My first PC was a used 386(22 mhz???) with monochrome.
The new 486sx33 with 14" EGA goodness I replaced it with was BLAZING fast. LMAO

That's not even 10 years ago. Can you picture 2012???

MeltMan · 03-22-2002, 09:31 PM

No, honestly I cant imagine 2012. It seems like just yesterday I was fighting IRQ's and DMA addresses... and playing doom2 on my overdrive compaq 63mhz. Rock on baby!

There's a Hi-Res image, photoshop it or something... Make it cool

PsionicMan · 03-23-2002, 04:50 PM

Thanks

Joe · 03-23-2002, 05:00 PM

Damn that thing was made the year I was born!

MeltMan · 03-23-2002, 05:36 PM

6 years before me
heh, craziness

I suppose that makes it an antique to me

Brad · 03-24-2002, 04:45 AM

it was made in week 3, 1986.

like how intel always had copyright 1999 on P3's, even though they were made in 2000, 2001, 2002.

the original chip design came out in 1978, but that sucker was made week 3, 1986

03-20-2002, 07:20 PM	#1
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Relic of ancient times... I found this in an archeological dig the other day... I thought it would make the ultimate case decoration... If we get the temperature of this beast down to about absolute zero, you think we could squeeze an extra megahert out of it? __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-20-2002, 07:57 PM	#3
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	rofl NICE! hehe I gotta dig up my Zenith Data systems 8086 system __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-20-2002, 08:07 PM	#4
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	made in malaysia I bet it still works... but who would have the hour to spare waiting for it to boot? Let alone a mobo that would run it... Anyone know why both AMD and Intel are on this chip? Its obviously made by AMD, but is it just the intel copyright? __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-20-2002, 08:11 PM	#5
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Yeh Before Intel owned a billion fabs, AMD did Fab'n for them! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-20-2002, 08:13 PM	#6
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	wow wow.. Its like the rise and fall of an empire, with intel and all... AMD was there from the start. Coolness.. thanks Joe __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-20-2002, 07:52 PM	#2
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	Intel and AMD on one chip..... wow, that is old.... you should get it carbon dated... if memory serves me right, that ones from around 20,000,000 BC scientific name "Siliconoxios Xtious", If I'm not mistaken.

03-21-2002, 01:28 AM	#7
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I wonder if it uses the 4 mobo mounting holes :P should take it into a computer shop and ask for an upgrade to a 2mhz chip __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-21-2002, 01:40 AM	#8
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	hehe, ironically, I'm using the same 120mm papst fan from that computer to cool my radiator... It works perfectly. Some things just dont get outdated. __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-21-2002, 05:17 AM	#9
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	cool I have working motherboards w/cpu from 8088 to the P3. I thought the old 8088 Cpu's where 8mhz?Also have an old timex sinclair w/tape recorder. I figure one day I'll show my grand kids what we had for computers back in the day. Didn't Intel give AMD the rights to the 386 and 486 (ie. x86 microcode) because the us gov wouldn't buy products from a single source? Being that AMD was already making Intel chips they didn't have to worry about finding or starting another company. Thus speeding up the process of having more than one source. __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

03-21-2002, 08:04 AM	#10
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	My old 8088 ran at 10MHz, but I do believe there was an 8MHz variety too. 4.77MHz was common at the beginning too. Intel also licensed the technology to NEC to have them fab some chips too, but NEC took the design and optimized it and came out with the NEC V20, a direct drop in replacement that was supposed to give 12MHz worth of performance without changing the clockgen on the board from the original 10MHz one.. heh.. Ahhh the good old days.. I ran a BBS on my old 8088 for awhile.. Man that sucked. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

03-21-2002, 08:21 AM	#11
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	4.77MHz was "normal", then it was "turboed" to 8 (hence the turbo switch, some stuff didn't work that fast), then "doubled" to 9.54MHz. That was as fast as they got till the 286 with it's mighty 12, 16 and I believe 20MHz versions. __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

03-21-2002, 11:15 AM	#12
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Heh, I never owned a 286 myself... But I did end up acquiring a compaq 386 DX33. That computer happened to have a 486 socket in it and my brother-in-law blowtorched a 486 SX25 out of a broken mobo. I crammed the chip into the LIF socket and behold! It still worked, but didnt give any performance boost over the 386. __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-21-2002, 01:35 PM	#13
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	Heh, I remember when my father bought a 486sx/25 to replace our 286.. I was so pissed.. I ended up getting an AMD 386/40 and tossing in a math co-processor.. Needless to say, it ran circles around my father's mistake. hehe.. Long live AMD! BTW.. Intel never made a 386/40.. Just like they never took the 486 past 100, or Socket 7 past 233... __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

03-21-2002, 07:52 PM	#14
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	I had the mother of all CPU's... The DX4-120 from non other... ran circles around the newly introduced pentium 75 and then some.... never ever had a pentuim.... got the k6-2 233 after that, and then I must have lost all my little piglets..... went and baught a P2 333. SHAME ON ME ...... but I did make it suffer for all it's worth....

03-21-2002, 08:44 PM	#15
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	You guys really gotta stop this, you're making me want to pull out my old S100 bus beast and wax nostalgic

03-22-2002, 07:36 PM	#16
PsionicMan Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 2	Hey, MeltMan, can I get a high res version of that to use in a wallpaper?

03-22-2002, 08:37 PM	#17
Heavy_Equipment Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Posts: 282	I had a Vic 20, and that's all I'm gonna say. My first PC was a used 386(22 mhz???) with monochrome. The new 486sx33 with 14" EGA goodness I replaced it with was BLAZING fast. LMAO That's not even 10 years ago. Can you picture 2012???

03-22-2002, 09:31 PM	#18
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Hi Res Artifact No, honestly I cant imagine 2012. It seems like just yesterday I was fighting IRQ's and DMA addresses... and playing doom2 on my overdrive compaq 63mhz. Rock on baby! There's a Hi-Res image, photoshop it or something... Make it cool __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-23-2002, 04:50 PM	#19
PsionicMan Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 2	Thanks

03-23-2002, 05:00 PM	#20
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Damn that thing was made the year I was born! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-23-2002, 05:36 PM	#21
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	6 years before me heh, craziness I suppose that makes it an antique to me __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

03-24-2002, 04:45 AM	#22
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	it was made in week 3, 1986. like how intel always had copyright 1999 on P3's, even though they were made in 2000, 2001, 2002. the original chip design came out in 1978, but that sucker was made week 3, 1986 __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

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