How to arrange in order?

max007007 · 06-22-2002, 10:39 PM

WHich is the best sequence for the following setup?
1) CPU WB
2) GPU WB
3) Pump
4) Radiator
5) Airtrap

Thks.

WebMasta33 · 06-22-2002, 10:48 PM

I would say...

Pump -> CPU -> GPU -> Rad-> Air Trap ->

Hixup · 06-22-2002, 10:55 PM

i would put the gpu before the pump. because it makes less heat. and wont bring so much heat from cpu to gpu.
Pump -> GPU -> CPU -> Rad-> Air Trap ->

Brad · 06-22-2002, 11:06 PM

pump - rad - cpu - gpu - air trap

max007007 · 06-23-2002, 12:32 AM

If i got another northbridge waterblock, where would it be place in the sequence.
Has it has to be the first as it give off least heat?

*mat-ster* · 06-23-2002, 09:35 AM

FRAGN'STIEN · 06-23-2002, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by max007007
If i got another northbridge waterblock, where would it be place in the sequence.
Has it has to be the first as it give off least heat?

pump->rad->cpu->gpu->northbridge->airtrap

jeff0628 · 06-24-2002, 10:42 AM

Do not run your cpu before the gpu! What will happen is the heat generated by your cpu will be carried to the gpu and will not provide adequate cooling for the gpu.

I've ran tests using both setups and with the gpu inline first the water temp raised only 0.4c which was not enough to effect the cpu temps. However with the cpu inline first the gpu temps raised to over 50c.

These tests were done on a amd xp1900+ overclocked to 1750 and using a gf4 ti4600 overlcocked (710/340) while looping 3dmark 2001 for 2 hours.

cooling rig used:
DD maze 3 cpu / gpu block
eheim 1250 pump
bix pro rev2 rad with 2-120mm in push pull

Cyco-Dude · 06-24-2002, 11:40 AM

more specific:
for the CPU first, GPU second, what was the CPU temp? what was the GPU temp?

for the GPU first and CPU second, what where the temps there?

what are you using to measure the temps?

Vector86 · 06-24-2002, 11:49 AM

isn't there a way to run cool water to both??

BTW, yes, i am a Nube

stop me if what i say is nonsense!

UpAllNight · 06-24-2002, 01:30 PM

Quote:

pump->rad->cpu->gpu->northbridge->airtrap

i agree with FRAGN'STIEN

max007007 · 06-25-2002, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeff0628
Do not run your cpu before the gpu! What will happen is the heat generated by your cpu will be carried to the gpu and will not provide adequate cooling for the gpu.

I've ran tests using both setups and with the gpu inline first the water temp raised only 0.4c which was not enough to effect the cpu temps. However with the cpu inline first the gpu temps raised to over 50c.

These tests were done on a amd xp1900+ overclocked to 1750 and using a gf4 ti4600 overlcocked (710/340) while looping 3dmark 2001 for 2 hours.

cooling rig used:
DD maze 3 cpu / gpu block
eheim 1250 pump
bix pro rev2 rad with 2-120mm in push pull

My upcoming setup almost same as you.
Athlonxp 1900+ to be cooled by C5
Geforce4 ti4600 to be cooled by DD gpu block
Eheim 1060 pump
BIX with 2 delta 120mm FF

What is the temperature(cpu & gpu) different between both setups(cpu 1st or gpu 1st)?

jeff0628 · 06-25-2002, 09:08 AM

Max,

I'll have to dig out the paperwork to give you the exact temp readings that we got with it. But just know that from our experiement we had much better results with running the cpu last in the series of blocks (gpu, northbridge, hd, etc... being first) than the other way around. The temp difference was almost a 14 degree difference if I remember correctly.

I was also in contact about DangerDen themselves about this very thing and they also backed up what we just found out. Now both of our tests were done in series and just the blocks in different order. I would now like to do a test on our best series config and compare it to a parallel setup and see which one gives the best temps. Also all of our temps were taking with the digital doc flat temp probes actually touching the cpu and gpu core for accurate readings.

I hope this helps max, I will try to find the paperwork on the actual temps, but if not we can just recreate the tests again and then maybe include a parallel setup as well to find the best possible config.

zoson · 06-25-2002, 09:45 AM

Don't use any of the above.
Get a couple of T's. Split the line at the at your cpu and gpu and have them in parallel so they are getting their own fresh supply of cool water. Then rejoin the lines after.
cpu+gpu -> air trap -> pump -> rad
If you are going to add a nbridge block, be sure to use 1/2" tubing, Split the lines to the gpu and the cpu, and have 1/2" continue to cpu, but shrink the 3/8" going to gpu line, and then split the gpu line again with a 3/8" T. This way you do not have to worry about flow so much, and all heat sources are isolated on their own lines.
-Zoson

dcrainman · 06-25-2002, 09:53 AM

I agree with Zoson, I'd run them in parellel (maybe with smaller hosing for the gpu), but use y connectors instead of T

jeff0628 · 06-25-2002, 12:52 PM

BE CAREFUL in running parallel !!! This setup acts exactly like electricity and what I mean is electricity always follows the path of least resistance, so if you have your water source split and 1 side going to the cpu and the other side going to the gpu the block with the least amount of resistance will get the majority of the water flow. So if you do this make sure both water blocks have similar flow rates or you could be doing more harm than good.

jtroutma · 06-25-2002, 02:14 PM

...or add valves so you can control the flow to a particular block/combination.

UpAllNight · 06-26-2002, 11:53 AM

i have mine running is series like this cpu>gpu and only got a 1c increase in my cpu temps

06-22-2002, 10:39 PM	#1
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06-22-2002, 10:48 PM	#2
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06-22-2002, 10:55 PM	#3
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06-22-2002, 11:06 PM	#4
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06-23-2002, 12:32 AM	#5
max007007 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 61	If i got another northbridge waterblock, where would it be place in the sequence. Has it has to be the first as it give off least heat? __________________ My Specs http://homex.coolconnect.com/member3...ages/Specs.jpg

06-23-2002, 09:35 AM	#6
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06-24-2002, 10:42 AM	#8
jeff0628 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OK Posts: 12	Do not run your cpu before the gpu! What will happen is the heat generated by your cpu will be carried to the gpu and will not provide adequate cooling for the gpu. I've ran tests using both setups and with the gpu inline first the water temp raised only 0.4c which was not enough to effect the cpu temps. However with the cpu inline first the gpu temps raised to over 50c. These tests were done on a amd xp1900+ overclocked to 1750 and using a gf4 ti4600 overlcocked (710/340) while looping 3dmark 2001 for 2 hours. cooling rig used: DD maze 3 cpu / gpu block eheim 1250 pump bix pro rev2 rad with 2-120mm in push pull

06-24-2002, 11:40 AM	#9
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	more specific: for the CPU first, GPU second, what was the CPU temp? what was the GPU temp? for the GPU first and CPU second, what where the temps there? what are you using to measure the temps?

06-24-2002, 11:49 AM	#10
Vector86 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KANSAS "it's not just cows"! Posts: 211	isn't there a way to run cool water to both?? BTW, yes, i am a Nube stop me if what i say is nonsense!

06-25-2002, 09:08 AM	#13
jeff0628 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OK Posts: 12	Max, I'll have to dig out the paperwork to give you the exact temp readings that we got with it. But just know that from our experiement we had much better results with running the cpu last in the series of blocks (gpu, northbridge, hd, etc... being first) than the other way around. The temp difference was almost a 14 degree difference if I remember correctly. I was also in contact about DangerDen themselves about this very thing and they also backed up what we just found out. Now both of our tests were done in series and just the blocks in different order. I would now like to do a test on our best series config and compare it to a parallel setup and see which one gives the best temps. Also all of our temps were taking with the digital doc flat temp probes actually touching the cpu and gpu core for accurate readings. I hope this helps max, I will try to find the paperwork on the actual temps, but if not we can just recreate the tests again and then maybe include a parallel setup as well to find the best possible config.

06-25-2002, 09:45 AM	#14
zoson Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: X Posts: 204	Don't use any of the above. Get a couple of T's. Split the line at the at your cpu and gpu and have them in parallel so they are getting their own fresh supply of cool water. Then rejoin the lines after. cpu+gpu -> air trap -> pump -> rad If you are going to add a nbridge block, be sure to use 1/2" tubing, Split the lines to the gpu and the cpu, and have 1/2" continue to cpu, but shrink the 3/8" going to gpu line, and then split the gpu line again with a 3/8" T. This way you do not have to worry about flow so much, and all heat sources are isolated on their own lines. -Zoson __________________ Core i7 930 @ 4254Hz 22x193 \| ASUS R3E 901 BIOS \| 12GB Mushkin Blackline 3x4GB @ 1547MHz 7-8-7-24-1N \| Lian Li PC-A10B 2x EVGA GTX275 SLI @ 720/1266/1566 \| 2x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD Raid 0 \| 3x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint 7.2K Raid 5 \| Corsair 950TX H2O \| Enzotech Sapphire Rev.A \| EK-FB RE3 \| Swiftech - 2x MCW60/GTX275 Unisink, MCP655b, MCRes Micro.v2 \| 3x HWLabs SR1-120 あなたの神への弓 Time isn't wasted, when you're gettin' wasted.

06-25-2002, 09:53 AM	#15
dcrainman Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ma, usa Posts: 50	I agree with Zoson, I'd run them in parellel (maybe with smaller hosing for the gpu), but use y connectors instead of T

06-25-2002, 12:52 PM	#16
jeff0628 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OK Posts: 12	BE CAREFUL in running parallel !!! This setup acts exactly like electricity and what I mean is electricity always follows the path of least resistance, so if you have your water source split and 1 side going to the cpu and the other side going to the gpu the block with the least amount of resistance will get the majority of the water flow. So if you do this make sure both water blocks have similar flow rates or you could be doing more harm than good.

06-25-2002, 02:14 PM	#17
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	...or add valves so you can control the flow to a particular block/combination. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

06-26-2002, 11:53 AM	#18
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	i have mine running is series like this cpu>gpu and only got a 1c increase in my cpu temps __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

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