Loving the Innovacool at 1/2"ID

awesterink · 08-08-2002, 09:22 PM

I first installed the Innovacool kit with the standard crappy 8mm ID tubing, only to find out that the backpressure of this setup made my Eheim 1048 work like crazy, and vibrate like it really wanted another purpose in life.

I swapped the Maxxxpert rad for a BIX, replaced all the Innovatek fittings with chrome barbed 1/2" fittings, and used 1/2"ID Tygon tubing. Attached a low speed 120mm Papst fan to the BIX (at 7V), hooked it all back up, and boy what a difference!!!

With the 1/2"ID tubing and the BIX the Innovatek blocks really shine! With aircooling I got temps of 42C idle, 50C load. With this cooling setup I get 29C idle, 33C load. Case (mobo) was 42C, is now 40C.

I am quite satisfied with this setup, it is WHISPER quiet!

See some pictures at http://www.westerink.net/rig

bigben2k · 08-09-2002, 10:49 AM

Congrats for the upgrade. That block is one of the best one you can get, but needs that tweak!

decodeddiesel · 08-10-2002, 07:59 PM

Sorry for the stupid question, but where do you buy the Innovatek blocks in the US?

awesterink · 08-10-2002, 10:11 PM

Only 2 places I know of, and both seem to be going through their stock in a hurry. The first is highspeedpc.com, which I VERY highly recommend. The second is sharkacorp.com, whom I have no experience with.

decodeddiesel · 08-10-2002, 11:14 PM

Thanks Man, I found highspeedpc from google, but didn't know about the other. Both seem depleted at this time, but it's cool I'm just shopping ATM.

pHaestus · 08-11-2002, 02:24 AM

I can vouch for the service at highspeedpc and also the quality of the Innovatek CPU and GPU blocks

decodeddiesel · 08-11-2002, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus
I can vouch for the service at highspeedpc and also the quality of the Innovatek CPU and GPU blocks

[SARCASM] You mean you've used them before pHaestus? [/SARCASM]

Nomad2000 · 08-11-2002, 02:53 AM

Sorry - how did you manage to change the fitting just for your Innovatec waterblock? Maybe you left the native 8 mm?

pHaestus · 08-11-2002, 02:54 AM

mskreis · 08-16-2002, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by awesterink
, replaced all the Innovatek fittings with chrome barbed 1/2" fittings, See some pictures at http://www.westerink.net/rig

I have 2 questions?

1. Can you detail how you did that. I originally wanted that block but decided against it because I want to use 1/2 tygon.

2. With 1/2 tubing how are you able to use Innovatek's reservoir? I thought it was only 3/8.

NeosPirahnis · 08-16-2002, 10:50 PM

good god

Price: $74.99 for the Innovatek WB.

jesus christ $135+ for me, I've got dual procs.... just for the waterblocks.

how worth it are these things ? I've got DD Maze2's right now.

awesterink · 08-16-2002, 10:55 PM

mskreis,

As you can see from the picture posted by pHaestus, the NPT fittings do not screw in all the way. The Innovatek blocks are tapped for British 1/4"BSPP, which is not tapered like American 1/4" NPT.

But that is actually not all that bad...if you WOULD screw them in all the way, you would be blocking much of the opening inside the block (from fitting into the block) and restricting flow.

Anyway, put a little Teflon tape on and screw the fittings into the block for a few revolutions until they go no further. The plastic thread on the GPU block is a little more flexible, you can screw the fittings in about halfway.

The reservoir has the same thread as the blocks.

Halo_Master · 09-08-2002, 07:39 AM

I still don't understand, did you widen the holes in the waterblock (1/2") or are the holes in the waterblock itself still 1/4"

awesterink · 09-08-2002, 08:32 AM

No, the holes in the WBs are already 1/2" wide, but instead of having the tapered American 1/4"NPT thread they are tapped with a 1/4" BSPP thread, which is straight all the way.

You don't need to widen anything, but when you screw in an American barb with 1/4"NPT thread, you can't screw it in all the way because the NPT thread is tapered, it widens from tip to middle.

Halo_Master · 09-08-2002, 09:29 AM

O.K. Thanks!

I live in europe, so I will be able to get the right NPT thread.
Did you do the same with the outlets on the reservoir, are the holes in the reservoir also 1/2"?

awesterink · 09-08-2002, 10:16 PM

Als jij in Nederland woont, I think you meant to say that you will probably be able to get barbs with the BSPP thread

, which is what the Innovatek blocks are designed for. Depending on how long the threaded sections are, be careful not to screw them in too far or you may restrict the opening into the block (goes sideways a bit).

The hole in the Innovatek reservoir (only one matters, the other slides on to the intake of an Eheim pump) has the same width and thread as the blocks. As far as the exit side of the pump goes...that depends on which model you get. The Eheim 1048 uses the same thread and width, not sure about the 1046.

I would consider getting a reservoir that you can mount higher up in your case though, much easier that way to bleed out air.

g.l.amour · 09-09-2002, 01:54 AM

btw awesterink. congrats how u were able to cram it all in that relatively small case.

awesterink · 09-09-2002, 07:10 AM

Hehe...wasn't so bad actually. It is quite wide, so at least that gives you some breathing room. I really like the Chenbro case, excellent for using 120mm fans, and very solid quality. It could have used an extra 5 1/4" slot though.

I am actually still going to replace the Innovatek reservoir by one (from Danger Den) that I can mount to the top of the case. That way it will be much easier to bleed out air. The Chenbro case has a bit of an indentation in the inside top frame, just enough to get the cap of the resevoir in between the frame and the top. And the top slides off after removing just one thumbscrew. So that will be neat and handy :-)

08-08-2002, 09:22 PM	#1
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	Loving the Innovacool at 1/2"ID I first installed the Innovacool kit with the standard crappy 8mm ID tubing, only to find out that the backpressure of this setup made my Eheim 1048 work like crazy, and vibrate like it really wanted another purpose in life. I swapped the Maxxxpert rad for a BIX, replaced all the Innovatek fittings with chrome barbed 1/2" fittings, and used 1/2"ID Tygon tubing. Attached a low speed 120mm Papst fan to the BIX (at 7V), hooked it all back up, and boy what a difference!!! With the 1/2"ID tubing and the BIX the Innovatek blocks really shine! With aircooling I got temps of 42C idle, 50C load. With this cooling setup I get 29C idle, 33C load. Case (mobo) was 42C, is now 40C. I am quite satisfied with this setup, it is WHISPER quiet! See some pictures at http://www.westerink.net/rig __________________ Asus A7N8XD - BIOS 1002 T-Bred 2600+ 2x256MB Samsung PC2700 120GB Seagate Barracuda V on SATA1 Pioneer DVR-105 on IDE1 ZIP250 on IDE2 Abit GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB - Det 41.09 Chenbro Junior SR-20503 PC Power & Cooling Silencer 400 ATX Windows XP Home

08-09-2002, 10:49 AM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Congrats for the upgrade. That block is one of the best one you can get, but needs that tweak! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

08-10-2002, 07:59 PM	#3
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	Sorry for the stupid question, but where do you buy the Innovatek blocks in the US? __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

08-10-2002, 11:14 PM	#5
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	Thanks Man, I found highspeedpc from google, but didn't know about the other. Both seem depleted at this time, but it's cool I'm just shopping ATM. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

08-11-2002, 02:54 AM	#9
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	nope

08-10-2002, 10:11 PM	#4
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	Only 2 places I know of, and both seem to be going through their stock in a hurry. The first is highspeedpc.com, which I VERY highly recommend. The second is sharkacorp.com, whom I have no experience with.

08-11-2002, 02:24 AM	#6
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I can vouch for the service at highspeedpc and also the quality of the Innovatek CPU and GPU blocks

08-11-2002, 02:53 AM	#8
Nomad2000 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 56	Sorry - how did you manage to change the fitting just for your Innovatec waterblock? Maybe you left the native 8 mm?

08-16-2002, 10:50 PM	#11
NeosPirahnis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 78	good god Price: $74.99 for the Innovatek WB. jesus christ $135+ for me, I've got dual procs.... just for the waterblocks. how worth it are these things ? I've got DD Maze2's right now.

08-16-2002, 10:55 PM	#12
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	mskreis, As you can see from the picture posted by pHaestus, the NPT fittings do not screw in all the way. The Innovatek blocks are tapped for British 1/4"BSPP, which is not tapered like American 1/4" NPT. But that is actually not all that bad...if you WOULD screw them in all the way, you would be blocking much of the opening inside the block (from fitting into the block) and restricting flow. Anyway, put a little Teflon tape on and screw the fittings into the block for a few revolutions until they go no further. The plastic thread on the GPU block is a little more flexible, you can screw the fittings in about halfway. The reservoir has the same thread as the blocks.

09-08-2002, 07:39 AM	#13
Halo_Master Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 44	I still don't understand, did you widen the holes in the waterblock (1/2") or are the holes in the waterblock itself still 1/4" __________________ Intel PIV 3200@3840 DFI Lanparty pro875B 1024mb(2x512) ocz pc3700EB(2.5-2-2-5) Lian Li pc6070B Ati Radeon X800XT PE creative audigy 2 Silicon Graphics F180 (18,1 inch TFT) and nec-mitsubischi 930sb(black) jpiperformance V5 external watercooling(black) containing: -iwaki md20R -2x xlr120 rads -swiftech mcw6002

09-08-2002, 08:32 AM	#14
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	No, the holes in the WBs are already 1/2" wide, but instead of having the tapered American 1/4"NPT thread they are tapped with a 1/4" BSPP thread, which is straight all the way. You don't need to widen anything, but when you screw in an American barb with 1/4"NPT thread, you can't screw it in all the way because the NPT thread is tapered, it widens from tip to middle.

09-08-2002, 09:29 AM	#15
Halo_Master Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 44	O.K. Thanks! I live in europe, so I will be able to get the right NPT thread. Did you do the same with the outlets on the reservoir, are the holes in the reservoir also 1/2"? __________________ Intel PIV 3200@3840 DFI Lanparty pro875B 1024mb(2x512) ocz pc3700EB(2.5-2-2-5) Lian Li pc6070B Ati Radeon X800XT PE creative audigy 2 Silicon Graphics F180 (18,1 inch TFT) and nec-mitsubischi 930sb(black) jpiperformance V5 external watercooling(black) containing: -iwaki md20R -2x xlr120 rads -swiftech mcw6002

09-08-2002, 10:16 PM	#16
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	Als jij in Nederland woont, I think you meant to say that you will probably be able to get barbs with the BSPP thread , which is what the Innovatek blocks are designed for. Depending on how long the threaded sections are, be careful not to screw them in too far or you may restrict the opening into the block (goes sideways a bit). The hole in the Innovatek reservoir (only one matters, the other slides on to the intake of an Eheim pump) has the same width and thread as the blocks. As far as the exit side of the pump goes...that depends on which model you get. The Eheim 1048 uses the same thread and width, not sure about the 1046. I would consider getting a reservoir that you can mount higher up in your case though, much easier that way to bleed out air. Last edited by awesterink; 09-08-2002 at 10:22 PM.

09-09-2002, 01:54 AM	#17
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	btw awesterink. congrats how u were able to cram it all in that relatively small case.

09-09-2002, 07:10 AM	#18
awesterink Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 53	Hehe...wasn't so bad actually. It is quite wide, so at least that gives you some breathing room. I really like the Chenbro case, excellent for using 120mm fans, and very solid quality. It could have used an extra 5 1/4" slot though. I am actually still going to replace the Innovatek reservoir by one (from Danger Den) that I can mount to the top of the case. That way it will be much easier to bleed out air. The Chenbro case has a bit of an indentation in the inside top frame, just enough to get the cap of the resevoir in between the frame and the top. And the top slides off after removing just one thumbscrew. So that will be neat and handy :-)

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