Need help with a design

PlawsWorth · 10-17-2002, 11:02 AM

Finally my friend Paul who's father own's a company that works with CNC machines and metall stuff has got time over. So now he will make a socketA copper block for me as soon as I can provide a design with all possible dimensions of the block so he can program the machine. Is there anyone who has designed a socket a block, then please reply to me and show a image with all the dimensions.

bigben2k · 10-17-2002, 12:14 PM

He He

RADIUS block here

Still in design stage though, but PM me if you want measurements.

PlawsWorth · 10-17-2002, 12:45 PM

The orginal design seems a bit to hard to make

bigben2k · 10-17-2002, 01:13 PM

Then give the Pro/Snowflake a shot! Here's a tip: add some steps at the bottom of the channels: it'll increase turbulence in a critical area (the bottom of the baseplate) and improve performance, ever so slightly. It's also the kind of thing that could potentially give you a sweet spot, with the right flow rate.

utabintarbo · 10-17-2002, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by PlawsWorth
Finally my friend Paul who's father own's a company that works with CNC machines and metall stuff has got time over. So now he will make a socketA copper block for me as soon as I can provide a design with all possible dimensions of the block so he can program the machine. Is there anyone who has designed a socket a block, then please reply to me and show a image with all the dimensions.

If you have an idea you can describe or make a drawn representation of, I can probably supply the CAD/CAM info you need.

Bob

PlawsWorth · 10-17-2002, 03:34 PM

I can make an .jpg image in photoshop and post it here.

utabintarbo · 10-17-2002, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by PlawsWorth
I can make an .jpg image in photoshop and post it here.

That would be a start!

Bob

Fixittt · 10-18-2002, 09:01 AM

wow someone has already made a socket a block?

COOL!

SMART ASS I am indeed!

utabintarbo · 10-18-2002, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Fixittt
wow someone has already made a socket a block?

COOL!

SMART ASS I am indeed!

Indeed!

Fixittt · 10-18-2002, 12:05 PM

why thank ya!!!!!!

I try!

My momma always said, do 1 thing, and do it well!

What programs U use for Cad work anyways?

PlawsWorth · 10-18-2002, 12:06 PM

Here is one idea of how the block could look. If you could make an cam version, that would be very kind of you. And yes, it's a rough skiss, made it in photoshop in like 1min, so it looks like shit

Fixittt · 10-18-2002, 02:02 PM

Hey that looks like the design I put into a z4 base a while back, and soon after I showed it...... guess who was selling them just like that???????????

utabintarbo · 10-18-2002, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by PlawsWorth
Here is one idea of how the block could look. If you could make an cam version, that would be very kind of you. And yes, it's a rough skiss, made it in photoshop in like 1min, so it looks like shit

What size inlet/outlet/channels do you want?

Post this info here (so everybody can agree/disagree

) and pm me with contact info - I'll probably get something out this weekend (or sooner)!

Bob

btw: I use Solidworks/WorkNC mainly these days, though I have access to others both old and new

!

#Rotor · 10-18-2002, 10:20 PM

and there, just as you thought you have seen it all....

The Opteron Block

PlawsWorth · 10-19-2002, 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by utabintarbo
What size inlet/outlet/channels do you want?

Post this info here (so everybody can agree/disagree ) and pm me with contact info - I'll probably get something out this weekend (or sooner)!

Bob

btw: I use Solidworks/WorkNC mainly these days, though I have access to others both old and new !

Well I found this design of a block. The only problem is that the cnc machine can't make the edges the way the design is made. So the edges have to be round instead.

1 Inch = 25,4mm (76mm/25,4mm=2,9921inch)

So 12mm = 0,47244

84mm = 3,30708

55mm = 2,1653

76mm = 2,9921

2,5mm = 0,09842

5mm = 0,196850

4,5mm = 0,177165

4mm = 0,1574803

46mm = 1,81102

15mm = 0,590551

PlawsWorth · 10-19-2002, 05:44 AM

Btw, I'm planning to make the whole block into one rectangle shaped block since there is no need for making the advanced two step block like the one on the image. That would just take a lot of time and be of no use. Better to build a solid one.

PlawsWorth · 10-19-2002, 05:55 AM

I'm planning to use a plexi part on top so I can see the water flow. So the end product will look something like the maze3

utabintarbo · 10-19-2002, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by PlawsWorth
Well I found this design of a block. The only problem is that the cnc machine can't make the edges the way the design is made. So the edges have to be round instead.

OK, I'll probably have something for you tonight or tomorrow.

btw, round corners are better anyway.

Bob

#Rotor · 10-19-2002, 10:08 AM

why is round corners better.... I say it's not....

not for cooling anyhow.... sharp corners induce more turbulence for a given amount of flow.... thus improving the block's cooling ability.

Fixittt · 10-19-2002, 10:38 AM

Who told ya that you cant make that block the way its drawn????

Sure you can. U will have some rounded edges, but U cant make the angles just fine. Juse use a smalled endmill, and have it make side by side passes. Hell, U could make it so that the rounded edges are very small. Rough out the desight , then finnish it up with a 1/8th endmill, and if you wanted to really get a good angle, go in with some really light passes with a 1/16th endmill that way the rounded parts will be 1/16 /4= or smaller

ChrioN · 10-19-2002, 04:20 PM

Try to make a triangle-block...?

utabintarbo · 10-19-2002, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by #Rotor
why is round corners better.... I say it's not....

not for cooling anyhow.... sharp corners induce more turbulence for a given amount of flow.... thus improving the block's cooling ability.

Well, as I see it, turbulence is good close to the heat source. Turbulence away from the heat source only causes flow restriction. Since this design plawsworth submitted is so large relative to the effective "heat source dissipation zone", the sharp corners won't really help that much with the cooling ability of the block. It comes down to where the corners are.

Just my opinion....

Bob

PlawsWorth · 10-19-2002, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by utabintarbo
Well, as I see it, turbulence is good close to the heat source. Turbulence away from the heat source only causes flow restriction. Since this design plawsworth submitted is so large relative to the effective "heat source dissipation zone", the sharp corners won't really help that much with the cooling ability of the block. It comes down to where the corners are.

Just my opinion....

Bob

I agree with your opinion.

jamicon · 10-19-2002, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlawsWorth
Well I found this design of a block. The only problem is that the cnc machine can't make the edges the way the design is made. So the edges have to be round instead.

1 Inch = 25,4mm (76mm/25,4mm=2,9921inch)

So 12mm = 0,47244

84mm = 3,30708

55mm = 2,1653

76mm = 2,9921

2,5mm = 0,09842

5mm = 0,196850

4,5mm = 0,177165

4mm = 0,1574803

46mm = 1,81102

15mm = 0,590551

sorta like my block

which just happens to be the design of the Liquid CC Blocks.

utabintarbo · 10-19-2002, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlawsWorth
Well I found this design of a block. The only problem is that the cnc machine can't make the edges the way the design is made. So the edges have to be round instead.

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Well, about this design... I checked the dimensions, and it seems to be a socket 478 block. We were looking to make a Socket A block, correct?

If so, I will "adjust" the design to fit. Just don't expect it to look exactly like the one pictured. I will assume that the general design + the baseplate thickness are paramount, all else is "negotiable".

Let me know if this reflects your requirements.

Bob

10-17-2002, 11:02 AM	#1
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	Need help with a design Finally my friend Paul who's father own's a company that works with CNC machines and metall stuff has got time over. So now he will make a socketA copper block for me as soon as I can provide a design with all possible dimensions of the block so he can program the machine. Is there anyone who has designed a socket a block, then please reply to me and show a image with all the dimensions. __________________ cocaine addict

10-17-2002, 12:14 PM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	He He RADIUS block here Still in design stage though, but PM me if you want measurements. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

10-17-2002, 12:45 PM	#3
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	well The orginal design seems a bit to hard to make __________________ cocaine addict

10-17-2002, 01:13 PM	#4
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Then give the Pro/Snowflake a shot! Here's a tip: add some steps at the bottom of the channels: it'll increase turbulence in a critical area (the bottom of the baseplate) and improve performance, ever so slightly. It's also the kind of thing that could potentially give you a sweet spot, with the right flow rate. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

10-17-2002, 03:34 PM	#6
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	well I can make an .jpg image in photoshop and post it here. __________________ cocaine addict

10-18-2002, 09:01 AM	#8
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	wow someone has already made a socket a block? COOL! SMART ASS I am indeed! __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

10-18-2002, 12:05 PM	#10
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	why thank ya!!!!!! I try! My momma always said, do 1 thing, and do it well! What programs U use for Cad work anyways? __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

10-18-2002, 12:06 PM	#11
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	a image Here is one idea of how the block could look. If you could make an cam version, that would be very kind of you. And yes, it's a rough skiss, made it in photoshop in like 1min, so it looks like shit __________________ cocaine addict

10-18-2002, 02:02 PM	#12
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Hey that looks like the design I put into a z4 base a while back, and soon after I showed it...... guess who was selling them just like that??????????? __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

10-18-2002, 10:20 PM	#14
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	and there, just as you thought you have seen it all.... The Opteron Block __________________ There is no Spoon....

10-19-2002, 05:44 AM	#16
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	Btw, I'm planning to make the whole block into one rectangle shaped block since there is no need for making the advanced two step block like the one on the image. That would just take a lot of time and be of no use. Better to build a solid one. __________________ cocaine addict

10-19-2002, 05:55 AM	#17
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	also I'm planning to use a plexi part on top so I can see the water flow. So the end product will look something like the maze3 __________________ cocaine addict

10-19-2002, 10:08 AM	#19
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	why is round corners better.... I say it's not.... not for cooling anyhow.... sharp corners induce more turbulence for a given amount of flow.... thus improving the block's cooling ability. __________________ There is no Spoon....

10-19-2002, 10:38 AM	#20
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Who told ya that you cant make that block the way its drawn???? Sure you can. U will have some rounded edges, but U cant make the angles just fine. Juse use a smalled endmill, and have it make side by side passes. Hell, U could make it so that the rounded edges are very small. Rough out the desight , then finnish it up with a 1/8th endmill, and if you wanted to really get a good angle, go in with some really light passes with a 1/16th endmill that way the rounded parts will be 1/16 /4= or smaller __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

10-19-2002, 04:20 PM	#21
ChrioN Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 318	Try to make a triangle-block...?

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