Calling all geeks now

Joe · 11-12-2002, 12:16 AM

Hey folks,

I think as you can see on the staff roster on the site, stuffs getting a tad thin on the staff. Beav is in lala land doing school stuff, Kevin is off to pursue working on Nuke reactors and fun stuff like that, and everyone else besides Bri, Ph and myself are gone and busy with life.

Now this cant stand. One thing that’s hard about finding new folks to step up and perform on the staff is finding people who not only know how to write but have the time to write, and have the knowledge to back up what they are writing about. Its a very rare combination and rarely websites have even 1 person that can fulfill those requirements.

I think if there are some people like that I could find them in here, But I have come to terms that I suck as a recruiter... of all the people I have tried to get on the site, many have helped a lot, but an equal amount never did anything. Some are not even listed as Alumni simply because after a bunch of talk back and forth and inviting them onto the site, they said "Cool! I will get right onto getting stuff done for ya!" and well 3 years later, and I still have nothing from them

So, if you: [list=1][*]are smart or at least have an open mind and are willing to learn[*]SERIOUSLY have the time to commit to producing interesting articles/reviews at least once a month[*]and have a solid grasp on how to write with some flare and style. ( no one has 3 days to proof and fix bad writing including me).[*]Have a Digital Camera that’s not a POS[*]Have a solid interest in high end cooling and advancement in cooling technology.[*]Have a good personality and attitude. Looking for mature, and personable folks.[/list=1]
Then I think we can use you on the site. Please PM me in the forum, reply, send carrier pigeon, or email me if you are interested in helping the site.

We currently are in a nice solid position with our sponsors, and reader base and I think we have a ton of potential to kick it up a few notches if we could just get some more solid writing talent on the site. (cause lord knows I suck

)

What would really rock is to get some niche or independent writers out there that run their own lil sites to come onboard. I am sure we could work something out where they could host their site on the PC server as a lil money saving perk to them

I am just thinking of ways to get the best writing staff I can on the site to help solidify ProCooling as the center for all things cooling related. (yet still nicely niche like

)

If you got questions you can normally find me in the Pro/Chat after 6:00pm every day. ( or one of the other staffers or regulars.)

DarkEdge · 11-12-2002, 02:47 AM

Damn, stupid digi cameras. Hehe I'm out. I do think it would be cool to have guest writers. Some of the forum regulars to this site and others have done some really cool things. I think a couple of examples would be:

#Rotor
BladeRunner
Bowman1964
Volenti

Ofcourse there are alot more, but those four come to mind. I also think it would be awesome if some R&D guys came onboard from companies such as DangerDen, and D-tek. How cool would it be to see things they have tried, or sneak peaks at products that are going into production. I'd like to see their labs.

I do think that a more permanent staff is needed though.

mfpmax · 11-12-2002, 03:11 AM

The digital camera and being smart screw me over...

DarkEdge · 11-12-2002, 03:18 AM

Oh yeah that smart thing. I'm not the brightest person, but I'm smarter then my sister. I caught her smoking out of a plastic pipe. No ****ing wonder shes getting ab-normally dummer every year. Its to much for her to stop doing drugs, but I hope she will take my advice and get a safer pipe.

g.l.amour · 11-12-2002, 04:16 AM

io io io

i'd have no problem writing a couple of articles as i mod my own pc or make a WB (have pg's worh of material as it is). i have a good digicam, no problem. but if you talk about big comparative reviews, i don't have the room nor means to construct something like :'the crucible'. what does interest me, is to write usefull howto's of where one can easily find a good heatercore. or how to extract one, how to use what one can find in a homdepot to the max... sort of alternative style mods (low cost).

so i guess i don't qualify as a full-time writer; but i'd feel honoured to write a couple of freelance articles.

mobuis · 11-12-2002, 01:49 PM

im stupid:'(

EagleShadow · 11-12-2002, 08:20 PM

Humm. The temptation. Lets see[list=1][*]are smart or at least have an open mind and are willing to learn[*]SERIOUSLY have the time to commit to producing interesting articles/reviews at least once a month[*]and have a solid grasp on how to write with some flare and style. ( no one has 3 days to proof and fix bad writing including me).[*]Have a Digital Camera that’s not a POS[*]Have a solid interest in high end cooling and advancement in cooling technology.[*]Have a good personality and attitude. Looking for mature, and personable folks.[/list=1][list=1][*]Yup got that one.[*]Time. That's all I have is time on my hands.[*]Funny, Lots of wit, ok english skills ( I also have my wife who is good with English. She can proof while I write. )[*]Uhhh Does this count as a good Camara? Digital Camera Photo ( It's actually my wifes cam. I just use it alot )[*]Watercooling? Aircooling? Tec's? Heat Pipes. Ya. Intrested in know'n all about them and what makes them tick.[*]Yup...[/list=1]

Don't know what to say from there. Other then here's my app.

The Spyder · 11-12-2002, 08:38 PM

Srry~ spodes already got me

~ where in portland are u eagle?

EagleShadow · 11-12-2002, 08:46 PM

Beaverton / NW Cornell area. Basicly Cedar Mills area.

Joe · 11-12-2002, 10:26 PM

Hey Guys, I am hatching a plan!!

A way to let some of you who dont have the big time to spend on writing stuff every month but may have a few cool projects you want to get posted. And in this way you get some free stuff to!

Keep an eye out for the end of the week I plan to post something

Crusher · 11-12-2002, 11:19 PM

I don't have a digital camera, nor do I have any money to buy a camera, a new computer, or exotic cooling methods for a new or existing computer. But hey, at least I'm not using a Charter cable modem

Anyway, I'd be happy to help with editing or whatever if you need help in those areas, but I'm afraid I can't contribute with any content of my own.

P.S. Joe, if you know of any computer related job openings in town, let me know. I need employment

Joe · 11-12-2002, 11:22 PM

I will check around and see what I can find. One thing I know for sure, there is NO openings at the state.... shit if all my coworkers are still with the group in 6 months I will be impressed. The new Gov is going to be a hatchet man. ( not afraid for my job though).

my guys at work have some good lines around for work, I will see what they may know of.

send me a resume and what you are looking for.

Can O' Beans · 11-13-2002, 01:43 AM

Yeah, Joe, it looks like you have more people here who can send in the "occasional" review/article instead of full "staffers".

As long as everything is decently written, part-time user submitted reviews & articles would be a good idea to supplement the site.

Of course, full-time staffers would be good too, if you can find them.

For example - me:

1 - Smart/open mind? - Yes
2 - Not too much time, but do have 8 hours a night here at work,

3 - I can write (technical writing classes

) Flare & style? Um... :shrug:
4 - Can borrow Digi-cams

5 - Deffinite interest - but I've only done air cooling, and working with water a.t.m.
6 - 80% of the time - yes

Of course, I've never done any kind of reviews/artciles. But I have planned on starting a site to document my PC cooling "adventures"

koslov · 11-13-2002, 02:25 AM

I think it would be neat if ProCooling gave a chance for all of us hobbyist WCers to show our work to a wider audience, instead of dwelling in obscurity susbsisting on what bandwidth we can find. In most cases, I think we are limited to forum posts to present our stuff, which (unless you take the time to frequent many forums concurrently) usually means one or two forums. Those who don't read WC forums will probably never see it. On the other hand, with legitimate articles ala Overclockers a lot more people can see our work.

The second advantage is that even good, informative forum posts tend to fall out of view fairly quickly. User-submitted articles would maintain this information in an easily accessible manner.

The reason I say this is that a lot of people put a significant amount of research in their WC rigs that can inspire others to replicate or modify ideas. Also, hobbyists like myself like to be rewarded when their ideas and hard work can be seen by everyone.

Take for example my first foray into the WC arena: my portable, interchangeable, quiet, high-performance cooling "platform" (open-box). If you haven't seen it, then it is evidence of the aforementioned phenomenon relating to forum posts. I think it was a good idea that had a lot of potential for further development, unfortunately I did not have the resources to improve upon it. Because of its quick decline into forum archive oblivion, few saw it and I bet fewer if any were inspired by it. However, if I had submitted it as an article somewhere, maybe someone out there would see that it satisfies their particular cooling application, and be motivated to improve upon it.

I think I speak for all WC hobbyists when I say it feels good to see someone use one of your ideas and transform it into something different or better.

DarkEdge · 11-13-2002, 03:43 AM

Seems like the guest writer idea I mentioned is popular with other as well. Looks to be the common idea around here.

I still think hearing from companies such as DD and D-Tek would be cool. They don't get to do conventions like Koolance *Crap*. It would give them a chance to show case.

Can O' Beans · 11-14-2002, 12:43 AM

Perhaps a "project voting" kind of option. Where the forums members could vote on projects and the better resulting ones would get posted on the main site as an article/review, or the person could write an article/review in proper form about their project.

Might work, might not, but I figured I'd throw the idea out there.

mfpmax · 11-14-2002, 12:57 AM

yeah, Guest writing would be nice...as I'm sure i'm too lazy for "real" work

mobuis · 11-15-2002, 01:48 PM

maybe we could make a complete project forum were you can post just complete projects that people have made so there won't be that many articles therefor they will stay there for a long time for people to look at:-)

11-12-2002, 12:16 AM	#1
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Calling all geeks now Hey folks, I think as you can see on the staff roster on the site, stuffs getting a tad thin on the staff. Beav is in lala land doing school stuff, Kevin is off to pursue working on Nuke reactors and fun stuff like that, and everyone else besides Bri, Ph and myself are gone and busy with life. Now this cant stand. One thing that’s hard about finding new folks to step up and perform on the staff is finding people who not only know how to write but have the time to write, and have the knowledge to back up what they are writing about. Its a very rare combination and rarely websites have even 1 person that can fulfill those requirements. I think if there are some people like that I could find them in here, But I have come to terms that I suck as a recruiter... of all the people I have tried to get on the site, many have helped a lot, but an equal amount never did anything. Some are not even listed as Alumni simply because after a bunch of talk back and forth and inviting them onto the site, they said "Cool! I will get right onto getting stuff done for ya!" and well 3 years later, and I still have nothing from them So, if you: [list=1][]are smart or at least have an open mind and are willing to learn[]SERIOUSLY have the time to commit to producing interesting articles/reviews at least once a month[]and have a solid grasp on how to write with some flare and style. ( no one has 3 days to proof and fix bad writing including me).[]Have a Digital Camera that’s not a POS[]Have a solid interest in high end cooling and advancement in cooling technology.[]Have a good personality and attitude. Looking for mature, and personable folks.[/list=1] Then I think we can use you on the site. Please PM me in the forum, reply, send carrier pigeon, or email me if you are interested in helping the site. We currently are in a nice solid position with our sponsors, and reader base and I think we have a ton of potential to kick it up a few notches if we could just get some more solid writing talent on the site. (cause lord knows I suck ) What would really rock is to get some niche or independent writers out there that run their own lil sites to come onboard. I am sure we could work something out where they could host their site on the PC server as a lil money saving perk to them I am just thinking of ways to get the best writing staff I can on the site to help solidify ProCooling as the center for all things cooling related. (yet still nicely niche like ) If you got questions you can normally find me in the Pro/Chat after 6:00pm every day. ( or one of the other staffers or regulars.) __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

11-12-2002, 03:11 AM	#3
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	The digital camera and being smart screw me over... __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

11-12-2002, 08:20 PM	#7
EagleShadow Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 3	Humm. The temptation. Lets see[list=1][]are smart or at least have an open mind and are willing to learn[]SERIOUSLY have the time to commit to producing interesting articles/reviews at least once a month[]and have a solid grasp on how to write with some flare and style. ( no one has 3 days to proof and fix bad writing including me).[]Have a Digital Camera that’s not a POS[]Have a solid interest in high end cooling and advancement in cooling technology.[]Have a good personality and attitude. Looking for mature, and personable folks.[/list=1][list=1][]Yup got that one.[]Time. That's all I have is time on my hands.[]Funny, Lots of wit, ok english skills ( I also have my wife who is good with English. She can proof while I write. )[]Uhhh Does this count as a good Camara? Digital Camera Photo ( It's actually my wifes cam. I just use it alot )[]Watercooling? Aircooling? Tec's? Heat Pipes. Ya. Intrested in know'n all about them and what makes them tick.[]Yup...[/list=1] Don't know what to say from there. Other then here's my app. __________________ EagleShadow

11-12-2002, 08:38 PM	#8
The Spyder Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oregon- Posts: 43	Srry~ spodes already got me ~ where in portland are u eagle? __________________ So.... how ya doing?

11-12-2002, 08:46 PM	#9
EagleShadow Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland OR Posts: 3	Beaverton / NW Cornell area. Basicly Cedar Mills area. __________________ EagleShadow

11-12-2002, 02:47 AM	#2
DarkEdge Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sugar Land, Tx Posts: 176	Damn, stupid digi cameras. Hehe I'm out. I do think it would be cool to have guest writers. Some of the forum regulars to this site and others have done some really cool things. I think a couple of examples would be: #Rotor BladeRunner Bowman1964 Volenti Ofcourse there are alot more, but those four come to mind. I also think it would be awesome if some R&D guys came onboard from companies such as DangerDen, and D-tek. How cool would it be to see things they have tried, or sneak peaks at products that are going into production. I'd like to see their labs. I do think that a more permanent staff is needed though.

11-12-2002, 03:18 AM	#4
DarkEdge Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sugar Land, Tx Posts: 176	Oh yeah that smart thing. I'm not the brightest person, but I'm smarter then my sister. I caught her smoking out of a plastic pipe. No ****ing wonder shes getting ab-normally dummer every year. Its to much for her to stop doing drugs, but I hope she will take my advice and get a safer pipe.

11-12-2002, 04:16 AM	#5
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	io io io i'd have no problem writing a couple of articles as i mod my own pc or make a WB (have pg's worh of material as it is). i have a good digicam, no problem. but if you talk about big comparative reviews, i don't have the room nor means to construct something like :'the crucible'. what does interest me, is to write usefull howto's of where one can easily find a good heatercore. or how to extract one, how to use what one can find in a homdepot to the max... sort of alternative style mods (low cost). so i guess i don't qualify as a full-time writer; but i'd feel honoured to write a couple of freelance articles.

11-12-2002, 01:49 PM	#6
mobuis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 48	im stupid:'(

11-12-2002, 10:26 PM	#10
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Hey Guys, I am hatching a plan!! A way to let some of you who dont have the big time to spend on writing stuff every month but may have a few cool projects you want to get posted. And in this way you get some free stuff to! Keep an eye out for the end of the week I plan to post something __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

11-12-2002, 11:19 PM	#11
Crusher Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 7	I don't have a digital camera, nor do I have any money to buy a camera, a new computer, or exotic cooling methods for a new or existing computer. But hey, at least I'm not using a Charter cable modem Anyway, I'd be happy to help with editing or whatever if you need help in those areas, but I'm afraid I can't contribute with any content of my own. P.S. Joe, if you know of any computer related job openings in town, let me know. I need employment

11-12-2002, 11:22 PM	#12
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I will check around and see what I can find. One thing I know for sure, there is NO openings at the state.... shit if all my coworkers are still with the group in 6 months I will be impressed. The new Gov is going to be a hatchet man. ( not afraid for my job though). my guys at work have some good lines around for work, I will see what they may know of. send me a resume and what you are looking for. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

11-13-2002, 01:43 AM	#13
Can O' Beans Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pa - USA Posts: 264	Yeah, Joe, it looks like you have more people here who can send in the "occasional" review/article instead of full "staffers". As long as everything is decently written, part-time user submitted reviews & articles would be a good idea to supplement the site. Of course, full-time staffers would be good too, if you can find them. For example - me: 1 - Smart/open mind? - Yes 2 - Not too much time, but do have 8 hours a night here at work, 3 - I can write (technical writing classes ) Flare & style? Um... :shrug: 4 - Can borrow Digi-cams 5 - Deffinite interest - but I've only done air cooling, and working with water a.t.m. 6 - 80% of the time - yes Of course, I've never done any kind of reviews/artciles. But I have planned on starting a site to document my PC cooling "adventures"

11-13-2002, 02:25 AM	#14
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	I think it would be neat if ProCooling gave a chance for all of us hobbyist WCers to show our work to a wider audience, instead of dwelling in obscurity susbsisting on what bandwidth we can find. In most cases, I think we are limited to forum posts to present our stuff, which (unless you take the time to frequent many forums concurrently) usually means one or two forums. Those who don't read WC forums will probably never see it. On the other hand, with legitimate articles ala Overclockers a lot more people can see our work. The second advantage is that even good, informative forum posts tend to fall out of view fairly quickly. User-submitted articles would maintain this information in an easily accessible manner. The reason I say this is that a lot of people put a significant amount of research in their WC rigs that can inspire others to replicate or modify ideas. Also, hobbyists like myself like to be rewarded when their ideas and hard work can be seen by everyone. Take for example my first foray into the WC arena: my portable, interchangeable, quiet, high-performance cooling "platform" (open-box). If you haven't seen it, then it is evidence of the aforementioned phenomenon relating to forum posts. I think it was a good idea that had a lot of potential for further development, unfortunately I did not have the resources to improve upon it. Because of its quick decline into forum archive oblivion, few saw it and I bet fewer if any were inspired by it. However, if I had submitted it as an article somewhere, maybe someone out there would see that it satisfies their particular cooling application, and be motivated to improve upon it. I think I speak for all WC hobbyists when I say it feels good to see someone use one of your ideas and transform it into something different or better.

11-13-2002, 03:43 AM	#15
DarkEdge Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sugar Land, Tx Posts: 176	Seems like the guest writer idea I mentioned is popular with other as well. Looks to be the common idea around here. I still think hearing from companies such as DD and D-Tek would be cool. They don't get to do conventions like Koolance Crap. It would give them a chance to show case.

11-14-2002, 12:43 AM	#16
Can O' Beans Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pa - USA Posts: 264	Perhaps a "project voting" kind of option. Where the forums members could vote on projects and the better resulting ones would get posted on the main site as an article/review, or the person could write an article/review in proper form about their project. Might work, might not, but I figured I'd throw the idea out there.

11-14-2002, 12:57 AM	#17
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	yeah, Guest writing would be nice...as I'm sure i'm too lazy for "real" work __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

11-15-2002, 01:48 PM	#18
mobuis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 48	maybe we could make a complete project forum were you can post just complete projects that people have made so there won't be that many articles therefor they will stay there for a long time for people to look at:-)

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