first time wc... suggestions for max. performance?

m3_arun · 12-02-2002, 09:25 PM

hello.
i am new to watercooling i have a 1800xp and a antex sx830 case.
after browsing around many forums for a long time ive come up with a list of parts...

radiator: heatercore
block: cathar "white water"
tubing: silicone or tygon, 5/8"id
pump: was thinking about an iwaki... too expensive, not worth the $, now im considering a ViaAqua 1300 or an eheim 1250.

im looking for the best price to performance ratio here... also shooting for high flow
i only want to run a single inline setup... only the CPU.
the only thing i havent decided is the pump! any other suggestions would be helpful too.

thanks

mfpmax · 12-02-2002, 09:54 PM

throw in the Maxi-Jet 1200 into there too...

KnightElite · 12-03-2002, 12:37 AM

If price is an issue, then Eheim's are fairly expensive as well....
You might want to look into a Danner.

Cathar · 12-03-2002, 06:01 AM

Why the need to go for the 5/8" ID tubing? While I can fit 5/8" barbs onto my block, I can't source the 5/8" Y's in Australia (yet). You aren't going to notice a significant increase in flow rates with a 5/8" system over a 1/2" system for a short CPU-only loop, that and 5/8" ID tubing is quite large and difficult to work with (bend, etc).

m3_arun · 12-03-2002, 08:58 AM

well its not too hard for me to get 5/8 tubing, and i can easily get all parts (block,heatercore,pump) with 5/8 barbs so why not? even the small increase in flow might prove helpful. also are there bending problems with 5/8 tube?

airspirit · 12-03-2002, 01:57 PM

Not if you use silicone. Vinyl will collapse. The braided vinyl requires room to get a good turn, but will not collapse. I would also recommend a Danner Supreme Pondmaster pump. They are excellent and quiet, if you put them on a vibration absorbing mat (like fibrous open cell foam). Think about a 350 or higher. Maybe a 500? You should be able to pick one up online for around $50 USD. You'll hate yourself if you go for a Via Aqua or Maxijet or Rio.

Oh, and 1/2" ID Clearflex 60 (see Pro/Deals) can be stretched over 5/8" barbs creating bulletproof seals if clamped. Food for thought.

mfpmax · 12-03-2002, 02:04 PM

I don't hate myself for using a Maxi Jet...

I hate myself for buying that Maxtor...

m3_arun · 12-03-2002, 07:21 PM

ive heard that theres some kind of leaking problems with the supreme mag-drive pumps? is that true?

pHaestus · 12-03-2002, 07:34 PM

http://www.procooling.com/articles/h..._3_31_00.shtml

Yes but easily fixed. Also put a hose clamp on the inlet piece to keep from cracking, and use plastic barbs.

m3_arun · 12-03-2002, 07:34 PM

im thinking about the 1200 model...
whats the difference between the supreme and the pondmaster?

12-02-2002, 09:25 PM	#1
m3_arun Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 91	first time wc... suggestions for max. performance? hello. i am new to watercooling i have a 1800xp and a antex sx830 case. after browsing around many forums for a long time ive come up with a list of parts... radiator: heatercore block: cathar "white water" tubing: silicone or tygon, 5/8"id pump: was thinking about an iwaki... too expensive, not worth the $, now im considering a ViaAqua 1300 or an eheim 1250. im looking for the best price to performance ratio here... also shooting for high flow i only want to run a single inline setup... only the CPU. the only thing i havent decided is the pump! any other suggestions would be helpful too. thanks

12-02-2002, 09:54 PM	#2
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	throw in the Maxi-Jet 1200 into there too... __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

12-03-2002, 12:37 AM	#3
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	If price is an issue, then Eheim's are fairly expensive as well.... You might want to look into a Danner. __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

12-03-2002, 01:57 PM	#6
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Not if you use silicone. Vinyl will collapse. The braided vinyl requires room to get a good turn, but will not collapse. I would also recommend a Danner Supreme Pondmaster pump. They are excellent and quiet, if you put them on a vibration absorbing mat (like fibrous open cell foam). Think about a 350 or higher. Maybe a 500? You should be able to pick one up online for around $50 USD. You'll hate yourself if you go for a Via Aqua or Maxijet or Rio. Oh, and 1/2" ID Clearflex 60 (see Pro/Deals) can be stretched over 5/8" barbs creating bulletproof seals if clamped. Food for thought. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

12-03-2002, 02:04 PM	#7
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	I don't hate myself for using a Maxi Jet... I hate myself for buying that Maxtor... __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

12-03-2002, 06:01 AM	#4
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Why the need to go for the 5/8" ID tubing? While I can fit 5/8" barbs onto my block, I can't source the 5/8" Y's in Australia (yet). You aren't going to notice a significant increase in flow rates with a 5/8" system over a 1/2" system for a short CPU-only loop, that and 5/8" ID tubing is quite large and difficult to work with (bend, etc).

12-03-2002, 08:58 AM	#5
m3_arun Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 91	well its not too hard for me to get 5/8 tubing, and i can easily get all parts (block,heatercore,pump) with 5/8 barbs so why not? even the small increase in flow might prove helpful. also are there bending problems with 5/8 tube?

12-03-2002, 07:21 PM	#8
m3_arun Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 91	ive heard that theres some kind of leaking problems with the supreme mag-drive pumps? is that true?

12-03-2002, 07:34 PM	#9
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	http://www.procooling.com/articles/h..._3_31_00.shtml Yes but easily fixed. Also put a hose clamp on the inlet piece to keep from cracking, and use plastic barbs.

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