P4 Northwood overclock: good or not?

bigben2k · 12-04-2002, 10:13 AM

A news bit from OC:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=115166

Opinions?

dax · 12-04-2002, 10:17 AM

if you overvolt your cpu, and it craps on you, you shouldn't be suprised. the thing was designed for a specific voltage, no more no less, it might work, but if it doesn't, don't complain. If you don't want to take the risk, then keep it on stock voltage.

g.l.amour · 12-04-2002, 10:18 AM

makes me less sad about all the athlons i fux0red and keep buying

there is one valid point in there somewhere about someone questioning the methodology of oc'ing some of those guys are using. hearing that intel is piece of cake to OC on air some of those ppl are using stock fans with some crazy voltages. without testing or using little steps...

currently my system is running as i like with a mobo swap. took me 4days to hit a sweatspot of fsb, vcore, memcore, agpcore...

dax · 12-04-2002, 10:21 AM

yea stock cooling + high voltages = no good... ah... the n00b way of overclocking :shrug:

pHaestus · 12-04-2002, 10:49 AM

ya when you see the vapochill guys running 2V on the NWs with no deaths or issues, I think it points to cooling (or motherboard issues) as well.

Are we not giving as much help to newcomers to overclocking as we used to? I seem to recall people way back in dark ages suggesting "add a fan" to my Pentium1 system's heatsink to aid in overclock. Now we just tell em "add voltage"?

Also kinda ironic that AMD users buy a $50 CPU and a $40 heatsink to match cause everyone KNOWS they burn up. Intel users buy $200 CPU and a $5 heatsink, and wonder what happened....

g.l.amour · 12-04-2002, 10:58 AM

i don't hang around in the aircooling corner alot. but i thk when ppl have found the way to these boards they are already cooling freaks. most ppl in the watercooling parts consider it nasty to have more than 40°C die temp

bigben2k · 12-04-2002, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by g.l.amour
makes me less sad about all the athlons i fux0red and keep buying

there is one valid point in there somewhere about someone questioning the methodology of oc'ing some of those guys are using. hearing that intel is piece of cake to OC on air some of those ppl are using stock fans with some crazy voltages. without testing or using little steps...

currently my system is running as i like with a mobo swap. took me 4days to hit a sweatspot of fsb, vcore, memcore, agpcore...

I caught that.

It was a reference to the wide gap between idle and load temps, and the fella pointed out that a 12 deg C gap is too much.

Did I miss something? I mean, I can understand that, but is a 12 deg C gap really too much?

Joe · 12-04-2002, 12:48 PM

that "hipro5" guy in the thread is on crack.

As pH said, people have long run their CPU's below 5C and over 2V and have much CPU love still.

Below 5C is dangerous... HAHAHA well at 2v above 5C is dangerous

Joe · 12-04-2002, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dax
yea stock cooling + high voltages = no good... ah... the n00b way of overclocking :shrug:

and the "pissed at intel for making a shitty CPU that dies all the time" way of overclocking.. Cause you know... those kiddies would never take the responsability for fryin the chip... its all the chip and intels fault...

thinking these kids shouldnt use anything below .25 um

seems .13 is just too fragile

pHaestus · 12-04-2002, 02:28 PM

Ya they need some more PPGA celeron loving I think Joe. No crushed cores and lots of voltage allowed. Or maybe they need AMD to make a K6-4?

Joe · 12-04-2002, 03:39 PM

heheh PPGA Celerons.. the Duplo blocks of CPU's

big, sturdy, and not so prone to frying

Better yet... a P-60... you know.. something with a 5V Vcore

DarkEdge · 12-04-2002, 04:49 PM

I ran my 2.26 at stock speeds for a month. I had it folding 24/7 and doing prime95. I made sure there was nothing wrong with it. I've now have it clocked at 3gig. If it dies, i'll just get a new one. Atleast I will know it was me and not the chip.

pHaestus · 12-04-2002, 06:15 PM

The theory that CPUs from Intel simply can't safely run at high o/cs is silly. Intel themselves sells a 1.525V 3.06GHz chip. If you can get up to that MHz with similar voltage then no worries. The ONLY way that is likely to happen, though, is serious cooling...

12-04-2002, 10:13 AM	#1
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	P4 Northwood overclock: good or not? A news bit from OC: http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=115166 Opinions? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

12-04-2002, 10:18 AM	#3
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	makes me less sad about all the athlons i fux0red and keep buying there is one valid point in there somewhere about someone questioning the methodology of oc'ing some of those guys are using. hearing that intel is piece of cake to OC on air some of those ppl are using stock fans with some crazy voltages. without testing or using little steps... currently my system is running as i like with a mobo swap. took me 4days to hit a sweatspot of fsb, vcore, memcore, agpcore... __________________ yo soy un tiburón

12-04-2002, 10:58 AM	#6
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	i don't hang around in the aircooling corner alot. but i thk when ppl have found the way to these boards they are already cooling freaks. most ppl in the watercooling parts consider it nasty to have more than 40°C die temp __________________ yo soy un tiburón

12-04-2002, 12:48 PM	#8
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	that "hipro5" guy in the thread is on crack. As pH said, people have long run their CPU's below 5C and over 2V and have much CPU love still. Below 5C is dangerous... HAHAHA well at 2v above 5C is dangerous __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-04-2002, 03:39 PM	#11
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	heheh PPGA Celerons.. the Duplo blocks of CPU's big, sturdy, and not so prone to frying Better yet... a P-60... you know.. something with a 5V Vcore __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-04-2002, 10:17 AM	#2
dax Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ghent, Belgium Posts: 83	if you overvolt your cpu, and it craps on you, you shouldn't be suprised. the thing was designed for a specific voltage, no more no less, it might work, but if it doesn't, don't complain. If you don't want to take the risk, then keep it on stock voltage.

12-04-2002, 10:21 AM	#4
dax Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ghent, Belgium Posts: 83	yea stock cooling + high voltages = no good... ah... the n00b way of overclocking :shrug:

12-04-2002, 10:49 AM	#5
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	ya when you see the vapochill guys running 2V on the NWs with no deaths or issues, I think it points to cooling (or motherboard issues) as well. Are we not giving as much help to newcomers to overclocking as we used to? I seem to recall people way back in dark ages suggesting "add a fan" to my Pentium1 system's heatsink to aid in overclock. Now we just tell em "add voltage"? Also kinda ironic that AMD users buy a $50 CPU and a $40 heatsink to match cause everyone KNOWS they burn up. Intel users buy $200 CPU and a $5 heatsink, and wonder what happened....

12-04-2002, 02:28 PM	#10
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Ya they need some more PPGA celeron loving I think Joe. No crushed cores and lots of voltage allowed. Or maybe they need AMD to make a K6-4?

12-04-2002, 04:49 PM	#12
DarkEdge Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sugar Land, Tx Posts: 176	I ran my 2.26 at stock speeds for a month. I had it folding 24/7 and doing prime95. I made sure there was nothing wrong with it. I've now have it clocked at 3gig. If it dies, i'll just get a new one. Atleast I will know it was me and not the chip. __________________ Intel p4 2.26@3.0 Abit BD7II-Raid,1gb Corsair 3200 ATI Radeon 9700 3 80gb Seagates 3 40gb Maxtors

12-04-2002, 06:15 PM	#13
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	The theory that CPUs from Intel simply can't safely run at high o/cs is silly. Intel themselves sells a 1.525V 3.06GHz chip. If you can get up to that MHz with similar voltage then no worries. The ONLY way that is likely to happen, though, is serious cooling...

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