Pro/Folding? No, we need a Pro/...

bigben2k · 12-23-2002, 08:22 AM

pHaestus · 12-23-2002, 09:39 AM

hrm I think I know how that would go....Pro/Cooling style:

1) Talk shit about all the other teams' battlebots

2) Get together parts (well most of them)

3) Sit around drinking beer

4) Repeat #1 and #3 ad infitum

airspirit · 12-23-2002, 10:23 AM

The world's first battlebot with a jury-rigged phase change cooler on all it's silicon bits ... what I don't understand is why somebody doesn't design a ball of diamond-tipped saw blades ... nothing, not even that ladybug thing, could stand up to a ball of whirring death.

For added go, strap on some aerosol cans and flame for a built in flamethrower (extra aggression points).

Joe · 12-23-2002, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus
hrm I think I know how that would go....Pro/Cooling style:

1) Talk shit about all the other teams' battlebots

2) Get together parts (well most of them)

3) Sit around drinking beer

4) Repeat #1 and #3 ad infitum

Yep thats about right

bigben2k · 12-23-2002, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by airspirit
what I don't understand is why somebody doesn't design a ball of diamond-tipped saw blades ... nothing, not even that ladybug thing, could stand up to a ball of whirring death.

For added go, strap on some aerosol cans and flame for a built in flamethrower (extra aggression points).

The problem with the saw blades is getting them to spin with enough torque to do any kind of damage: there's just no way to cram enough battery power in there.

Launching a liquid is forbidden: so is a flamethrower (but shhht! Don't tell Sgt Bash!)

I was thinking about a wheel rim (very strong) with a ball-and-chain attachment that would pop out at a greater distance, proportional with the rotation speed: max damage, at max velocity. Heck, just a carefully balanced spring would do the job.

For more power: gas engine! Make that sucka spin wildly: it'll take out a wall...

phreenet · 12-23-2002, 03:22 PM

There needs to be a real mans battle bots series. Those things on TV are just too weak. Something that would need to be held in the desert, large engines, no holds...... yeah.... until there is only one bot standing.

MeltMan · 12-23-2002, 04:26 PM

Umm... like Mechwarrior? Muahahaha!

Bignuts · 12-23-2002, 06:05 PM

The only limitation is that it has to be powered by a common small-block engine, to help keep costs down.

I'll call up the networks and get it rolling.

Actually there is a competition similar to that, I don't have the links, but I believe that the Navy acadamy has something to do with it.

And I do remember seeing a flamethrower once...

airspirit · 12-23-2002, 06:11 PM

You can do blades with two counter-rotating engines to eliminate torque rotation. Keep it low to the ground, and keep a high-powered battery (it only is running for a few minutes) inside the middle shielded in 1" steel. On top have it rounded to deflect damage, and keep the thing as low to the ground as possible. At about 15 lbs, you could chop away with impunity ... get a running start with the blades whirring and chop the competition into ribbons of steely death!

Joe · 12-23-2002, 07:02 PM

Actually something like that happens already. Its called War

And there is about to be another episode in Iraq. I think the US has some good toys this time around hehe

DragonsDream · 12-23-2002, 07:18 PM

I think Robot Wars allows FlameThrowers. I don't watch it that often anymore, but I'm pretty sure I saw one the other night when I caught it on. There is a guy that dose a "art" show using Robots with every thing you can think of including Meachine Guns. If I see the link for it again, I'll post it. Big Problem using Saw Blades is getting enough pressure, you end up pushing the other bot before it actual cuts the other bots armor. I'd like to see one use something like a big stun gun and just blow the other bots System board. Tho I'm sure there is a rule about that.

Butcher · 12-23-2002, 10:04 PM

Nope, no flamethrowers on robotwars.

phreenet · 12-23-2002, 10:14 PM

You hear about those Human Rights nuts complaining about Cluster Bombs? If they take the Cluster Bombs away there will be nothing to watch on CNN!!

phreenet · 12-23-2002, 10:18 PM

But back to the BattleBots, its so boring to watch, if I were to make a battle bot, I would just rig its battery to explode or something fancy when another bot touches it, so at least other people will be like yeah this kicks ass.

MadDogMe · 12-24-2002, 05:04 AM

I'd love to make a robot,(we have robot wars in the UK), I have the radio control stuff from a model plane (Tiger moth bi~plane with six foot wingspan

), one of those programable controlers for different planes setups.
I'd do a 'swinging pick~axe head syringe' type thing, hollow out a pickaxe head and sharpen it up so it will puncture the metal skin of the enemy, it then injects petrol that has had polystyrene soaked into it (napalm) into the enemys 'innards' and procedes to ignite them muwuhaahhahaaa

. could pump water in if flaming's not allowed...

another thing would be some kind of EMP to fuxor the radio of the enemy bot maybe?(swing the cone out of an 18inch bassbin at it??

), or how about a Tazer?, have to be heavy+sharp and powered by an air~rifle, or a supe'd up air/Co2~pistol, then shove 1200V's through it and see how the enemy bot's earth curcuit likes it!!

...

bigben2k · 12-24-2002, 08:42 AM

No no no...

Liquid weapons are not allowed.

Explosives are not allowed.

Interfering with the oponent's frequencies isn't allowed.

Electrical discharge weapons are not allowed.

Missile weapons are not allowed either (so forget about an armour piercing shell!)

phreenet has it right: Robot Wars promotes a big show, as part of the competition: Battlebots doesn't. There's also Robotica here in the US, but I think they were short lived.

I like Airspirit's idea (counter rotating blades), but torque can be avoided in many other ways, more simply. Also, the torque can actually be beneficial, to keep the bot level.

That reminds me of the poor fellow who had a vertical blade that was so heavy, that the bot looked like it was about to tip over, anytime he turned left or right.

The nastiest one I've seen, is Son of Wyachi: three steel meat cleavers rotating at high speed.

The most clever, was DrillZilla, a bot with a fast moving no-wheels mechanism (which increases your weight limitation).

The most exotic, was a long snake-like thing, but I've never seen it in action.

MadDogMe · 12-24-2002, 01:55 PM

Shite!, sounds like a UN battlefeild, evryone throws poppies at each other!...

Techguy · 12-24-2002, 10:36 PM

it's a shame you can't use lasers!
Then y'all have something to use all the cooling geat on.
(of course powering a someodd mW laser would be a feat on it's own..)

12-23-2002, 03:22 PM	#6
phreenet Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Gloucester, Virginia Posts: 356	There needs to be a real mans battle bots series. Those things on TV are just too weak. Something that would need to be held in the desert, large engines, no holds...... yeah.... until there is only one bot standing. __________________ Dual Pentium!!! 933@1107 Liquid Cooled.

12-23-2002, 04:26 PM	#7
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Umm... like Mechwarrior? Muahahaha! __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

12-23-2002, 06:05 PM	#8
Bignuts Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 155	Good idea The only limitation is that it has to be powered by a common small-block engine, to help keep costs down. I'll call up the networks and get it rolling. Actually there is a competition similar to that, I don't have the links, but I believe that the Navy acadamy has something to do with it. And I do remember seeing a flamethrower once...

12-23-2002, 06:11 PM	#9
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	You can do blades with two counter-rotating engines to eliminate torque rotation. Keep it low to the ground, and keep a high-powered battery (it only is running for a few minutes) inside the middle shielded in 1" steel. On top have it rounded to deflect damage, and keep the thing as low to the ground as possible. At about 15 lbs, you could chop away with impunity ... get a running start with the blades whirring and chop the competition into ribbons of steely death! __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

12-23-2002, 07:02 PM	#10
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Actually something like that happens already. Its called War And there is about to be another episode in Iraq. I think the US has some good toys this time around hehe __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-23-2002, 08:22 AM	#1
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Pro/Folding? No, we need a Pro/... Battlebot! http://www.battlebots.com/ __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

12-23-2002, 09:39 AM	#2
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	hrm I think I know how that would go....Pro/Cooling style: 1) Talk shit about all the other teams' battlebots 2) Get together parts (well most of them) 3) Sit around drinking beer 4) Repeat #1 and #3 ad infitum

12-23-2002, 10:23 AM	#3
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	The world's first battlebot with a jury-rigged phase change cooler on all it's silicon bits ... what I don't understand is why somebody doesn't design a ball of diamond-tipped saw blades ... nothing, not even that ladybug thing, could stand up to a ball of whirring death. For added go, strap on some aerosol cans and flame for a built in flamethrower (extra aggression points). __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

12-23-2002, 07:18 PM	#11
DragonsDream Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 13	I think Robot Wars allows FlameThrowers. I don't watch it that often anymore, but I'm pretty sure I saw one the other night when I caught it on. There is a guy that dose a "art" show using Robots with every thing you can think of including Meachine Guns. If I see the link for it again, I'll post it. Big Problem using Saw Blades is getting enough pressure, you end up pushing the other bot before it actual cuts the other bots armor. I'd like to see one use something like a big stun gun and just blow the other bots System board. Tho I'm sure there is a rule about that. __________________ Now I wish I would have keep my TRS-80.

12-23-2002, 10:04 PM	#12
Butcher Thermophile Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,064	Nope, no flamethrowers on robotwars. __________________ Once upon a time, in a land far far away...

12-23-2002, 10:14 PM	#13
phreenet Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Gloucester, Virginia Posts: 356	You hear about those Human Rights nuts complaining about Cluster Bombs? If they take the Cluster Bombs away there will be nothing to watch on CNN!! __________________ Dual Pentium!!! 933@1107 Liquid Cooled.

12-23-2002, 10:18 PM	#14
phreenet Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Gloucester, Virginia Posts: 356	But back to the BattleBots, its so boring to watch, if I were to make a battle bot, I would just rig its battery to explode or something fancy when another bot touches it, so at least other people will be like yeah this kicks ass. __________________ Dual Pentium!!! 933@1107 Liquid Cooled.

12-24-2002, 05:04 AM	#15
MadDogMe Thermophile Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just shut up ;) ... Posts: 1,068	I'd love to make a robot,(we have robot wars in the UK), I have the radio control stuff from a model plane (Tiger moth bi~plane with six foot wingspan ), one of those programable controlers for different planes setups. I'd do a 'swinging pick~axe head syringe' type thing, hollow out a pickaxe head and sharpen it up so it will puncture the metal skin of the enemy, it then injects petrol that has had polystyrene soaked into it (napalm) into the enemys 'innards' and procedes to ignite them muwuhaahhahaaa . could pump water in if flaming's not allowed... another thing would be some kind of EMP to fuxor the radio of the enemy bot maybe?(swing the cone out of an 18inch bassbin at it?? ), or how about a Tazer?, have to be heavy+sharp and powered by an air~rifle, or a supe'd up air/Co2~pistol, then shove 1200V's through it and see how the enemy bot's earth curcuit likes it!! ...

12-24-2002, 08:42 AM	#16
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	No no no... Liquid weapons are not allowed. Explosives are not allowed. Interfering with the oponent's frequencies isn't allowed. Electrical discharge weapons are not allowed. Missile weapons are not allowed either (so forget about an armour piercing shell!) phreenet has it right: Robot Wars promotes a big show, as part of the competition: Battlebots doesn't. There's also Robotica here in the US, but I think they were short lived. I like Airspirit's idea (counter rotating blades), but torque can be avoided in many other ways, more simply. Also, the torque can actually be beneficial, to keep the bot level. That reminds me of the poor fellow who had a vertical blade that was so heavy, that the bot looked like it was about to tip over, anytime he turned left or right. The nastiest one I've seen, is Son of Wyachi: three steel meat cleavers rotating at high speed. The most clever, was DrillZilla, a bot with a fast moving no-wheels mechanism (which increases your weight limitation). The most exotic, was a long snake-like thing, but I've never seen it in action. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

12-24-2002, 01:55 PM	#17
MadDogMe Thermophile Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just shut up ;) ... Posts: 1,068	Shite!, sounds like a UN battlefeild, evryone throws poppies at each other!...

12-24-2002, 10:36 PM	#18
Techguy Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 130	it's a shame you can't use lasers! Then y'all have something to use all the cooling geat on. (of course powering a someodd mW laser would be a feat on it's own..) __________________ My only PC is a PII 333 with 256MB RAM a GeForce2 MX 200, and 30GB's of 7,200rpm ATA/66 goodness. And yes, I know it sucks.

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