Whats better ? Reservoir or Inline ?

[nevrotik]

I'm trying to build my own Pro/Mini which trully rulezzzz
But since I have trouble finding the reservoir used in it, I wondered if I could just make it without

Whats your opinion ?
Is it better to use a reservoir ?
What are the drawbacks of both methods
Which one will give the best performance ?

They using a 8oz reservoir which is rather small, will it make a difference ?
plz help me

and btw what do you think is the best Socket 370 (PGA) Waterblock ?
Is it possible to fix the DangerDen Maze 2 on it ?

Thanks in advance guys

[nevrotik]

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[icebear]

Regarding the use of a reservoir the pros of it would be that it's a lot easier to get the air out of the water. And perhaps you get lower noise levels from the pump if it's submersible. But then the heat generated by the pump adds to the water.

I don't think that there is any cooling advantages with a reservoir. The water in the reservoir will be heading for ambient temperature, although slow, since a reservoir is a lousy design for air/heat exchange.
If you can get the air out of a closed non-reservoir system it should be just as efficient. If you got a case temperature that is higher than the water temperature, the reservoir even adds a small amount of heat to the water.

I would definitely go for a non-reservoir system, just make sure that you get rid of all air. Less weight, and less space needed for the cooling eq.

[gmat]

Yep, no reservoir, less hassle.
To get rid of the air, just insert a 'T' at the highest point of your water line. Bubbles will eventually end up there, just make sure you put some kind of cap. I use a 10mm straight/12mm threaded fitting with a closing bolt, with a O ring.

[nevrotik]

but so little water will not cool the cpu as efficiently than with a reservoir will it ?

[resago]

water is water. it will just reach its equallibrium temp quicker without extra water from a res.

[Joe]

I honestly believe the resevoir not only makes the cooling system more robust if used correctly, it also acts as a self cleaning device for the cooling system.

FYI - I am talking about a Res tank that does NOT have the pump sumberged in it. I hate those setups.

1. It lets the small pool of coolant to "chill for a bit" before it heads off down to the pump and radiator.

2. If you keep the res tank at the top of the system it will catch all the air, and auto prime the cooling system, no sucking on hoses.. ever.

3. if you make a nice fill point for the system it will make maint of the coolant VERY easy.

if you notice the Pro/Mini and DH3 cooling design have the res tanks at the top. This is the SAME way the brake'n system in yer car works. Keep the res tank high, and make it accessable. AND KEEP THE PUMP OUT OF IT.


So thats where I stand on that

Inline cooling systems are just such a bitch to maintain and keep an eye on. You know the Koolance hose blowouts would have been avoided if they would have had a air gathering and pressure regulating res tank.

So thast my take on that

[gmat]

It has a few drawbacks though.
First you must find / build a *leak proof* reservoir. Next it adds quite a hefty weight to your case. Then you get into trouble if you want to bring your case somewhere, you'll have to keep it standing up.
So it's a good solution for home computers that never move. For LAN goers i think the closed loop is a better option.

[mkosem]

I had a bad experience with a koolance case in my other system where the hose to the cpu exploded from pressure in the line. As you may know, koolance uses a sealed system. The pressure built up inside and eventualy couldn't be held in the system anymore then.....BOOM water leak/explosion. Therefore, in my other systems, I use little rubbermaid plastic containers for reservoirs. One has a rio 600, the other has a rio 180. I havn't had a problem with either and have no problem going to lan parties with any of my boxes.

--Matt

[FreakinCold]

I use a cast aluminum water tight unit with a submersible rio200. The unit sits in front of the case fan which also cools the tank. My setup has traveled back and forth to LA from Vegas for computer fairs without a leak. Good luck.

FreakinCold WWW.Freakincold.com

[Lord Smack]

Ive had both systems and can say go with the res BUT USE AN INLINE PUMP!!!! I have a Swiftech MCW462 waterblock a Magdrive 2 pump a Hayden 1676 radiator. I did closed loop which worked well but was a pain to blead/fill when I tweaked my mix. So I went to Home Depot and bought a 4x4x2 Marine junction box, two 1/2" hose barbs a Hose joiner and a hose cap. I drilled two holes slightly smaller then the threads on the hose barbs into the bottom of the box put a little liquid thread on them and screwed them in. Water tight fit! Then I took the hose joiner, which is threaded on both ends, and drilled and screwed it into the top of the box.when you put the hose cap on it is water tight. I proved this at a lan party where 150 people showed up. they all said that water was too dangerous because if it tipped over it would leak. I played all night with my computer sitting on its head(upside down) never leaked a drop. It makes it REAL easy to fill, empty, tweak your system and it costs about $11 bucks.

[resago]

there shouldn't be a pressure problem with an inline system, you put a T in the system for fill and air bleeding purposes.

[jimsnyder]

...or a "Y". Both come in the 3/8" size and can be used depending on how your plumbing is laid out.

[btoz28]

Hi all!
I am currently running GlobalWin WBK38 and it slowly driving me nut, so I think I will switch to h2o soon. I have an idea that may put the issue of pressure built-up in the in-line systems to rest:
1.find a plastic syringe, about 1cm/0.5'' in diameter.
2. find a convenient spot on the hose (any)then make a T connector at that spot. I leave it up to you to securely fit the syringe openning tip to that T-connector.
3.Push the plunger in fully before fitting the syringe to the loop. Bleed the system fully, with the plunger still fully in.
4.If the water pressure ever rises, the plunger will be pushed out, releasing the pressure, and vice versa.
5. For extra peace of mind and added protection, fit a rubber band fron the plunger to the body(just enough tension) for auto-return of plunger. Also, attach a non-flexible cord from the plunger (thumbpad) to the syringe body, the length is such that the
plunger cannot pop out without removin the cord.
6.If you all follow me so far, it is the idea of the expasion tank in auto cooling
system.
I hope some will try it out and I would like to hear your views on this little idea.
Cheers,
AusGuy

[damado]

You said you were looking for the promini design, while I'm not sure what that is, from my understanding about Joe's new test setup, he's using the same reservoir setup....I dunno if I'm right in this assumption but if I am, that'd a dubro gas tank for remote control airplanes which can be bought at towerhobbies.com. I use them in my airplanes.