What are you waiting for? Upgrade Cycle.

airspirit · 03-11-2003, 05:05 PM

Personally, I'm waiting for 90nm hammers, R450s and DDR2. I was planning a new build when the clawhammers were planned for March, but with the postponement to fall and quick change to 90nm hammers with DDR2 capability, I'm thinking of waiting until next year this time. Plus, this will allow for SOMEBODY to come out with a dually hammer board that can be OC'd nicely.

I'm thinking 2x 4000+ or higher, 2GB DDR2 (1GB per CPU), a R400 (R450 to drive down the cost), and some serial ATA lovin'.

What are you waiting for?

bigben2k · 03-12-2003, 08:25 AM

I'm waiting on funds!

The lack of SSE2 is making me think twice about going to Intel, but otherwise, I don't have a need for a big 64 bit CPU.

Right now, I need a HD, so I'll try to pick up something that I can reuse in the next PC.

Joe · 03-12-2003, 09:49 AM

Mine is all about power

Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz ( or higher) on a Tyan Thunder i7505 workstaion mobo. and 2 GB of ram. ( with the Adaptec Zero Channel raid addon board).

should do nicely I think hehehe

gmat · 03-12-2003, 10:49 AM

A Geforce FX Ultra or a Radeon 9800 Pro for under $300.
A new set of rims, a new exhaust (a stock one will do), maybe a CAI and a 4-2-1 header for my Prelude.
A TM Cougar to play Lock-On when it's out. Modded with titanium guimbals, hall effect pots and a Simped F-16 rudder.
A winning lottery ticket, to afford all the above.

jtroutma · 03-12-2003, 11:14 AM

I plan on sqeezing a bit more out of my current setup (mainly my video card) and then sitting on it until Hammers have a chance to get into the market and become stable and extra fast.

Other than that, my I/O system is a bit lacking in drive space so I am in the middle of getting 3x Cheetah 15K 36Gb and running RAID 5. That should hold me over for a while.

Puzzdre · 03-12-2003, 04:50 PM

I hate you guys...

Especially you gmat, for that prelude. WAAAAAANNNTTT ITTTTTTT!!!

Hmmm, just upgraded mobo and ram, thinking of radeon 9700pro when price drops some more...and need a new monitor, this belinea 107050 is starting to scream on lower freq than 120 Hz on 1024x768...

Oh, and need a digicam too....

That's about it till fall...

Joe · 03-12-2003, 05:35 PM

I already have a Ti4600 Golden Sample, and I am not going to upgrade video till prolly early next year after Doom3 is out.

and yes I should add onto that upgrade list a Olympus E-10 SLR Digitial Camera.

Rayman2k2 · 03-12-2003, 08:59 PM

i'm waiting for Socket T, Grantsdale, and Prescott. April 2k4...I will do a MAJOR upgrade, and get nothing BUT top of the line.

Joe · 03-12-2003, 10:08 PM

Its always fun to dream down the road

my only goals are :
"It must last and run everything fast as I want for 2 years." My Dual Athlon 1.4Ghz 1GB ram has done that awesomely. Now its time to double it

Strafe · 03-12-2003, 10:10 PM

Canterwood + 800MHz bus P4 Hyperthread + Corsair + 256MB Radeon 9800 + WD Raptor

all should be here in May. I've been waiting for 2 years to build a system like this. Selling off all my old stuff now to pay for it.

Strafe · 03-12-2003, 10:11 PM

damn double post

TerraMex · 03-13-2003, 12:55 PM

I want my YY cube ...

The rest... well , my setup will hold to xmas, and then i'll see whats in the market. But hey, i rarely buy top models. Paying 40% more for 10% or less performance increase , is definitly not worth the money.

My 1700+ and my old trusty gf2mx400 havent failed me, even with unreal 2, so i dont feel the need to a sudden change

.

pHaestus · 03-13-2003, 05:03 PM

I am holding out for a video card that will truly blow me away when I upgrade. I am right at the "2nd cycle" point now (have a GF3) so I am getting the itch. I figure I'll wait until summer or early fall though and hope something really beefy is out. I am not convinced any of the current high dollar cards will run Doom3 properly, so I might as well wait...

Rack · 03-13-2003, 06:00 PM

I'm looking forward to the kt400a and VT8237 southbridge with native ATA support. Maybe they'll be a RAID version, and then I'd like to throw 2 Raptors on there. With their dedicated connection to the southbridge, there's no more going through the PCI bus! That'll free up bandwidth for the GigE NIC. 768MB of RAM and a Radeon 9700 would make a tolerable BF1942 machine. Might as well throw a Barton in there, too.

Joe · 03-14-2003, 10:42 AM

Why is everyone so excited about the Raptors? They will cost about as much as a SCSI drive and have less bandwidth, and a slower spindle.

i'll just keep adding 15k RPM SCSI drives to my machine

Also a Gignic wouldnt do jack on a regular PCI bus anyway, you would get a total of 133Mb/sec and at that you would max the PCI bus out for all the other devices. You need a higher end board to actuall use Gignic speeds. like something along the lines of a PCI-X system.

airspirit · 03-14-2003, 10:50 AM

That is the beauty of the hammer systems ... many chipsets (including an AMD one) incorporate PCI-X ... much fun is coming.

Blackeagle · 03-14-2003, 02:56 PM

Well do to some other things that came up I'm in the same boat as BigBen, funding. I won't have the money now for a complete build until next fall.

And with all the changes that will be happening between now and then, I'm not making any forcasts on what will be in it. I do know it will be in a Lain Li case and be watercooled, but beyond that nothing is sure.

Skulemate · 03-14-2003, 04:44 PM

You've asked what we're waiting for before we upgrade... but I haven't heard a single person here say "the mailman."

That's what I am waiting for (perpetually it seems...

).

Can O' Beans · 03-16-2003, 01:10 AM

I'm not waiting for anything

Theres so much that will be introduced somewhat soon as well. I don't even follow it. WHen I feel I need to upgrade, I'll see whats out & read up on the reviews.

My gaming system runs everything I need right now, although I need a new video card (probably go with a good Ti4200).

tim-may · 03-17-2003, 08:06 PM

with the advent of having a water cooled system done sometime soon, im just waiting for a rad9800pro, but ill probly wait a little for prices to go down a bit. going from a voodoo5 to a ti4200 in january, pretty muched added 10 grand onto my 3d mark 2001se score, hoping to see a good 6000 or more addition to that. i might possibly add another 512mb stick into my system to utilize the dual channel ability on my board. way way way down the road, i might get a highpoint serial ata raid card and put some (relativly cheap at that time) serial ata 80gb or 120gb drives in a raid 0 or 0+1 array

i agree with beans though...so much to be introduced in the next few months.

Tweekster · 03-18-2003, 08:12 PM

Joe,

Think twice about the Adaptec Zero channel raid board.....had my heart set on one (Adaptec 2010s) with a pair of 15K SCSI's in raid 0......but the latest reviews show very poor performance....maybe if Adaptec gets the drivers right it might work.....some say it is a limit of the Zero Channel concept......check out the comments over at 2cpu

03-11-2003, 05:05 PM	#1
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	What are you waiting for? Upgrade Cycle. Personally, I'm waiting for 90nm hammers, R450s and DDR2. I was planning a new build when the clawhammers were planned for March, but with the postponement to fall and quick change to 90nm hammers with DDR2 capability, I'm thinking of waiting until next year this time. Plus, this will allow for SOMEBODY to come out with a dually hammer board that can be OC'd nicely. I'm thinking 2x 4000+ or higher, 2GB DDR2 (1GB per CPU), a R400 (R450 to drive down the cost), and some serial ATA lovin'. What are you waiting for? __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

03-12-2003, 08:25 AM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I'm waiting on funds! The lack of SSE2 is making me think twice about going to Intel, but otherwise, I don't have a need for a big 64 bit CPU. Right now, I need a HD, so I'll try to pick up something that I can reuse in the next PC. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

03-12-2003, 09:49 AM	#3
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Mine is all about power Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz ( or higher) on a Tyan Thunder i7505 workstaion mobo. and 2 GB of ram. ( with the Adaptec Zero Channel raid addon board). should do nicely I think hehehe __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-12-2003, 11:14 AM	#5
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	I plan on sqeezing a bit more out of my current setup (mainly my video card) and then sitting on it until Hammers have a chance to get into the market and become stable and extra fast. Other than that, my I/O system is a bit lacking in drive space so I am in the middle of getting 3x Cheetah 15K 36Gb and running RAID 5. That should hold me over for a while. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

03-12-2003, 04:50 PM	#6
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	I hate you guys... Especially you gmat, for that prelude. WAAAAAANNNTTT ITTTTTTT!!! Hmmm, just upgraded mobo and ram, thinking of radeon 9700pro when price drops some more...and need a new monitor, this belinea 107050 is starting to scream on lower freq than 120 Hz on 1024x768... Oh, and need a digicam too.... That's about it till fall... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

03-12-2003, 10:49 AM	#4
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	A Geforce FX Ultra or a Radeon 9800 Pro for under $300. A new set of rims, a new exhaust (a stock one will do), maybe a CAI and a 4-2-1 header for my Prelude. A TM Cougar to play Lock-On when it's out. Modded with titanium guimbals, hall effect pots and a Simped F-16 rudder. A winning lottery ticket, to afford all the above.

03-12-2003, 05:35 PM	#7
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I already have a Ti4600 Golden Sample, and I am not going to upgrade video till prolly early next year after Doom3 is out. and yes I should add onto that upgrade list a Olympus E-10 SLR Digitial Camera. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-12-2003, 08:59 PM	#8
Rayman2k2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 190	i'm waiting for Socket T, Grantsdale, and Prescott. April 2k4...I will do a MAJOR upgrade, and get nothing BUT top of the line. __________________ -Insert Signature Here-

03-12-2003, 10:08 PM	#9
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Its always fun to dream down the road my only goals are : "It must last and run everything fast as I want for 2 years." My Dual Athlon 1.4Ghz 1GB ram has done that awesomely. Now its time to double it __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-12-2003, 10:10 PM	#10
Strafe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Chiba City Posts: 62	Canterwood + 800MHz bus P4 Hyperthread + Corsair + 256MB Radeon 9800 + WD Raptor all should be here in May. I've been waiting for 2 years to build a system like this. Selling off all my old stuff now to pay for it.

03-12-2003, 10:11 PM	#11
Strafe Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Chiba City Posts: 62	damn double post

03-13-2003, 12:55 PM	#12
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	I want my YY cube ... The rest... well , my setup will hold to xmas, and then i'll see whats in the market. But hey, i rarely buy top models. Paying 40% more for 10% or less performance increase , is definitly not worth the money. My 1700+ and my old trusty gf2mx400 havent failed me, even with unreal 2, so i dont feel the need to a sudden change . __________________ "we need more cowbell."

03-13-2003, 05:03 PM	#13
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I am holding out for a video card that will truly blow me away when I upgrade. I am right at the "2nd cycle" point now (have a GF3) so I am getting the itch. I figure I'll wait until summer or early fall though and hope something really beefy is out. I am not convinced any of the current high dollar cards will run Doom3 properly, so I might as well wait...

03-13-2003, 06:00 PM	#14
Rack Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3	New stuff I'm looking forward to the kt400a and VT8237 southbridge with native ATA support. Maybe they'll be a RAID version, and then I'd like to throw 2 Raptors on there. With their dedicated connection to the southbridge, there's no more going through the PCI bus! That'll free up bandwidth for the GigE NIC. 768MB of RAM and a Radeon 9700 would make a tolerable BF1942 machine. Might as well throw a Barton in there, too.

03-14-2003, 10:42 AM	#15
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Why is everyone so excited about the Raptors? They will cost about as much as a SCSI drive and have less bandwidth, and a slower spindle. i'll just keep adding 15k RPM SCSI drives to my machine Also a Gignic wouldnt do jack on a regular PCI bus anyway, you would get a total of 133Mb/sec and at that you would max the PCI bus out for all the other devices. You need a higher end board to actuall use Gignic speeds. like something along the lines of a PCI-X system. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-14-2003, 10:50 AM	#16
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	That is the beauty of the hammer systems ... many chipsets (including an AMD one) incorporate PCI-X ... much fun is coming. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

03-14-2003, 02:56 PM	#17
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	Well do to some other things that came up I'm in the same boat as BigBen, funding. I won't have the money now for a complete build until next fall. And with all the changes that will be happening between now and then, I'm not making any forcasts on what will be in it. I do know it will be in a Lain Li case and be watercooled, but beyond that nothing is sure.

03-14-2003, 04:44 PM	#18
Skulemate Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 381	You've asked what we're waiting for before we upgrade... but I haven't heard a single person here say "the mailman." That's what I am waiting for (perpetually it seems... ). __________________ Michael E. Robbins M.A.Sc. Candidate, University of Toronto 12.1 GHz of AMD's finest (17.7 GHz total) crunching proudly for the AMDMB.com Killer Frogs SETI BOINC: Dual Opteron 246s (Iwill DK8N) \| XP2800+ (Shuttle SN41G2) \| 3x XP2400+ (ASUS A7N266-vm) SETI BOINC: 2x P4 2.8E (ASUS P4R800-vm) \| Crunching 24/7

03-16-2003, 01:10 AM	#19
Can O' Beans Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pa - USA Posts: 264	I'm not waiting for anything Theres so much that will be introduced somewhat soon as well. I don't even follow it. WHen I feel I need to upgrade, I'll see whats out & read up on the reviews. My gaming system runs everything I need right now, although I need a new video card (probably go with a good Ti4200).

03-17-2003, 08:06 PM	#20
tim-may Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 161	with the advent of having a water cooled system done sometime soon, im just waiting for a rad9800pro, but ill probly wait a little for prices to go down a bit. going from a voodoo5 to a ti4200 in january, pretty muched added 10 grand onto my 3d mark 2001se score, hoping to see a good 6000 or more addition to that. i might possibly add another 512mb stick into my system to utilize the dual channel ability on my board. way way way down the road, i might get a highpoint serial ata raid card and put some (relativly cheap at that time) serial ata 80gb or 120gb drives in a raid 0 or 0+1 array i agree with beans though...so much to be introduced in the next few months. __________________ AMD Althon XP 1700+ JUIHB 0302 @ 2Ghz (air cooled) 10.5 Multiplier X 191 FSB = 2005 Epox 8RDA OCZ PC3500 512mb EL (SYNC CAS2-2-2-4-2) eVGA Ti4200 64mb @ 285/570 (stock air cooling) Antec True550 Antec True430 for 220w pelt

03-18-2003, 08:12 PM	#21
Tweekster Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Rockies Posts: 31	Joe, Think twice about the Adaptec Zero channel raid board.....had my heart set on one (Adaptec 2010s) with a pair of 15K SCSI's in raid 0......but the latest reviews show very poor performance....maybe if Adaptec gets the drivers right it might work.....some say it is a limit of the Zero Channel concept......check out the comments over at 2cpu __________________ Dual 2400MP \| Dual 2.4 Xeon

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