Hey, Blackeagle, about the cement for the res

psychofunk · 04-10-2003, 06:04 PM

About a month ago we were talking about the res that I wanted to make and the subject of cements and which one to use came up. I ran it by the guy I know who does this stuff for a living and he uses this to bond acrylic

http://www.polysciences.com/shop/pro...&pf%5Fid=16752

bigben2k · 04-10-2003, 07:01 PM

It's kinda pricey, isn't it?

I use Devcon's plastic welder, but I've only used it for polycarbonate. Great stuff!

Available at your local Wall-Wart, 2-3$

Blackeagle · 04-10-2003, 09:32 PM

Yeah, looks like top shelf stuff. Here is another good one, and you can get it in only 4oz. amounts.

www.delviesplastics.com

They even have some that are UV reactive.

A little higher priced than Ben's source, but not to bad, and quality is top shelf.

And a interesting selection of plexi as well. Do wish the carried Polycarb though.

Lexan and also carrys adhisives: www.mcmaster.com

Have you completed your tower res yet? Results? Pics? A good idea and design, still like the way you used it to greatly shorten your lines.

Blackeagle · 04-10-2003, 09:34 PM

Hey Ben is that Devcon adhesive a thin watery type or thick?

bigben2k · 04-10-2003, 10:52 PM

It's thick. It's a two part epoxy:

psychofunk · 04-10-2003, 11:25 PM

Pricey? That's an understatement. The stuff is great though. It's like water and instantly starts to melt the plastic so that the two not only bond but melt into one another. And then it sets as fast as super glue (and water tight to boot).

Hey, BB is that stuff epoxy resin?

As for the res, well I ran into some plan snags and money probs and then I got side tracked with trying to get my cars sound system upgraded (not rediculous but powerful and accurate), bottom line is it will be done on monday.

I'll post some pics sometime next week after I get everything tested and together and I'll also write about my experiences. Maybe it can help guide some of the newbs in the right direction, maybe even start a few figh...I mean discussions.

I still have a load to learn as this stuff is like some archaic science and as for the blocks, well, I'll have to leave that to you engineer, rocket scientist types, too much info for my brain to take.

Psycho

bigben2k · 04-11-2003, 07:09 AM

I can't remember exactly, but it is a 2-part solution. I hve the MSDS somewhere... I know that it makes a chemical bond with the polycarbonate, so it's as strong as it can be!

It's got a cream color though. I'll be testing it in 1-2 weeks, to glue a couple of 1/4" plates together, to make a 1/2" top for my block. I figure that if I clamp it hard enough, it should come out ~clear:shrug:

Blackeagle · 04-11-2003, 07:50 AM

Ben you might want to try that first link I posted as they have both the very thin & thicker adhesives that are clear and won't cloud up your work.

bigben2k · 04-11-2003, 09:01 AM

Thanks for the tip BE! Once I verify that it's good for Polycarbonate, I think I'll order a 4 oz can.

EDIT: Got it, details here

bigben2k · 04-14-2003, 06:42 PM

*** Note to all!!! ***

This glue contains Methylene Chloride, a known carcinogen!

***end note ***

Methylene chloride is just about perfect, when dealing with polycarb, because it can also be used to seal cracks in drilled holes.

DO NOT use this stuff unless you know what you're getting into, and once you've followed the manufacturer's instructions!!!

04-10-2003, 06:04 PM	#1
psychofunk Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 365	Hey, Blackeagle, about the cement for the res About a month ago we were talking about the res that I wanted to make and the subject of cements and which one to use came up. I ran it by the guy I know who does this stuff for a living and he uses this to bond acrylic http://www.polysciences.com/shop/pro...&pf%5Fid=16752

04-11-2003, 09:01 AM	#9
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Thanks for the tip BE! Once I verify that it's good for Polycarbonate, I think I'll order a 4 oz can. EDIT: Got it, details here Last edited by bigben2k; 04-11-2003 at 09:50 AM.

04-14-2003, 06:42 PM	#10
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	* Note to all!!! * This glue contains Methylene Chloride, a known carcinogen! *end note * Methylene chloride is just about perfect, when dealing with polycarb, because it can also be used to seal cracks in drilled holes. DO NOT use this stuff unless you know what you're getting into, and once you've followed the manufacturer's instructions!!! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

04-10-2003, 07:01 PM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	It's kinda pricey, isn't it? I use Devcon's plastic welder, but I've only used it for polycarbonate. Great stuff! Available at your local Wall-Wart, 2-3$

04-10-2003, 09:32 PM	#3
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	Yeah, looks like top shelf stuff. Here is another good one, and you can get it in only 4oz. amounts. www.delviesplastics.com They even have some that are UV reactive. A little higher priced than Ben's source, but not to bad, and quality is top shelf. And a interesting selection of plexi as well. Do wish the carried Polycarb though. Lexan and also carrys adhisives: www.mcmaster.com Have you completed your tower res yet? Results? Pics? A good idea and design, still like the way you used it to greatly shorten your lines.

04-10-2003, 09:34 PM	#4
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	Hey Ben is that Devcon adhesive a thin watery type or thick?

04-10-2003, 11:25 PM	#6
psychofunk Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 365	Pricey? That's an understatement. The stuff is great though. It's like water and instantly starts to melt the plastic so that the two not only bond but melt into one another. And then it sets as fast as super glue (and water tight to boot). Hey, BB is that stuff epoxy resin? As for the res, well I ran into some plan snags and money probs and then I got side tracked with trying to get my cars sound system upgraded (not rediculous but powerful and accurate), bottom line is it will be done on monday. I'll post some pics sometime next week after I get everything tested and together and I'll also write about my experiences. Maybe it can help guide some of the newbs in the right direction, maybe even start a few figh...I mean discussions. I still have a load to learn as this stuff is like some archaic science and as for the blocks, well, I'll have to leave that to you engineer, rocket scientist types, too much info for my brain to take. Psycho

04-11-2003, 07:09 AM	#7
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I can't remember exactly, but it is a 2-part solution. I hve the MSDS somewhere... I know that it makes a chemical bond with the polycarbonate, so it's as strong as it can be! It's got a cream color though. I'll be testing it in 1-2 weeks, to glue a couple of 1/4" plates together, to make a 1/2" top for my block. I figure that if I clamp it hard enough, it should come out ~clear:shrug:

04-11-2003, 07:50 AM	#8
Blackeagle Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: U.S.A = Michigan Posts: 1,243	Ben you might want to try that first link I posted as they have both the very thin & thicker adhesives that are clear and won't cloud up your work.

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