New Zalman WB any good?

cbone · 06-10-2003, 11:43 AM

Has anyone heard anything about the new Zalman WB?

Zalman WB at FrozenCPU

Looks kinda weird. I wonder how well it works. It's pretty cheap, too.

Are there any good performing blocks that come with fittings for AMD and P4?

sn_85 · 06-10-2003, 11:59 AM

that block might perform decently but i wouldnt expect it to be really good.

the SlitEdge from BeCooling comes with both AMD and P4 hole mounts. not much has been said a/b this block but it has the second best C/W rating after the WhiteWater on overclockers.com.

Pritorian · 06-10-2003, 12:21 PM

Looks simlar too the AC stuff...

And that performs Ok..

redleader · 06-10-2003, 01:46 PM

49 dollars is pretty cheap? Maybe compared to a whitewater.

mrmoustache · 06-10-2003, 03:17 PM

hehe it's cheap compared to buying a mill and making one yourself maybe

cbone · 06-10-2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by redleader
49 dollars is pretty cheap? Maybe compared to a whitewater.

It's cheaper than all of the other CPU water blocks that frozenCpu sells. Maybe their prices suck, but it's cheaper than the competition, regardless.

Marci · 06-10-2003, 05:44 PM

Exact same principles in copper core design as the Innovatek Rev3 blocks and the WetandChillyChips CPU Block... not for the overclocker, but fine for someone looking for silence at stock or mildly oc'd speeds and taking the watercooling approach. All it has to do is keep the CPU below 60 degrees at the end of the day according to AMDs specs etc...

It claims it helps silence, doesn't claim to offer brilliant performance. Just take it as advertised *shrugs*

redleader · 06-10-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by cbone
It's cheaper than all of the other CPU water blocks that frozenCpu sells. Maybe their prices suck, but it's cheaper than the competition, regardless.

Its actually more expensive then the competition from DangerDen and DTek however. Considering these are better blocks and as (if not more) widely available, I don't really understand your comment.

JokerCPoC · 06-10-2003, 09:03 PM

The only problem with this Zalman WB is that It can't be mounted on a Socket A cpu, Just socket 478 & socket 754 (Opteron), Other than that It sure looks nice, I just wish Zalman had made this compatible with socket 462 though. Otherwise I'll just stick with Danger Den (Maze3 SHD) or something like that.

Say anyone know which type of fittings are better - Brass, Chrome or Polypropylene?

sn_85 · 06-10-2003, 11:47 PM

they're all pretty much the same. but some are better then others at different applications. if you use a lexan top then its better to use polyprolene because it strains the lexan less and not as easy to crack. with a copper top brass or chrome are good and make it have a professional look. if you use annodized aluminum then chrome is better then brass because brass is a copper alloy and if the threading is chipped when you insert the brass barb then corrosion will occur.

bigben2k · 06-11-2003, 08:14 AM

BTW, for those into history, LEXAN is 50 years old now!

Invented in 1953, at a General Electric lab by Daniel Fox, 21 billion pounds of it have since been sold.

(source: Popular Mechanics, July 2003 issue)

cbone · 06-11-2003, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zoom314
The only problem with this Zalman WB is that It can't be mounted on a Socket A cpu, Just socket 478 & socket 754 (Opteron), Other than that It sure looks nice, I just wish Zalman had made this compatible with socket 462 though.

Isn't socket 754 Athlon64? I thought that Opteron used socket 940. I assume that the chips will be held in the same way. Stupid AMD.

Quote:

Its actually more expensive then the competition from DangerDen and DTek however. Considering these are better blocks and as (if not more) widely available, I don't really understand your comment.

Not really because it comes with the adaptor for Athlon64 and P4. The other blocks (Dden and DTek) come with one or the other AFAIK and are more expensive because you have to buy the adaptor. I swap between AMD/Intel enough that getting both is what I'm looking for. This slitedge is looking pretty good, but I want to know if I will have to buy another adapter when Athlon64 or Opteron boards w/AGP come out.

JokerCPoC · 06-11-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cbone
Isn't socket 754 Athlon64? I thought that Opteron used socket 940. I assume that the chips will be held in the same way. Stupid AMD.

I thoughtthat the socket 754 was the Opteron, Oh well, It's still new technobabble to Me.

ndtinker · 06-11-2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
BTW, for those into history, LEXAN is 50 years old now!

Invented in 1953, at a General Electric lab by Daniel Fox, 21 billion pounds of it have since been sold.

(source: Popular Mechanics, July 2003 issue)

I saw that in PM, too - hard to believe. I didn't realize it was that old.

redleader · 06-11-2003, 10:08 PM

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Not really because it comes with the adaptor for Athlon64 and P4. The other blocks (Dden and DTek) come with one or the other AFAIK and are more expensive because you have to buy the adaptor. I swap between AMD/Intel enough that getting both is what I'm looking for. This slitedge is looking pretty good, but I want to know if I will have to buy another adapter when Athlon64 or Opteron boards w/AGP come out.

Huh? It doesn't even fit any existing AMD boards! How can you say that its cheaper for you because you switch between AMD and Intel when it doesn't even work in any of your AMD systems?

Anyway my point stands. Its significantly more expensive then better blocks. It also doesn't even fit socket A making it less compatable as well.

Combine that with 3/8 fittings and aluminium construction and you get a pretty big "Meh" IMO.

JokerCPoC · 06-11-2003, 10:43 PM

Me I'm looking at either the Maze3 SHD, the Maze4 SHD (When It comes out) or the Gemini Cool (case-mod.com),
The Last one is a High Volume CPU Cooler (Requires at least a 200Gph pump).

Click on the Above Image
for a Larger Image.

sn_85 · 06-11-2003, 11:59 PM

case-mod is having a nice sale on all GeminiCool waterblocks. you should probably pick up the Mega Tsunami for only $25.

JokerCPoC · 06-12-2003, 12:08 AM

I would, But I'm limited to 1/2" OD - 3/8" ID Tubing. I'll have settle for what's compatible with My Tubing and My pump, It's a 200Gph pump.

Edit: I didn't see any Mega Tsunami water blocks, On sale or otherwise, they must be out of them. The Tsunami water blocks are there and I may get one for My cpu and GF4 card, The chipset blocks will just have to wait though.

sn_85 · 06-12-2003, 12:48 AM

hmmmm, sorry. they musta taken it off cuz the other day i saw the mega on sale.

06-10-2003, 11:43 AM	#1
cbone Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 6	New Zalman WB any good? Has anyone heard anything about the new Zalman WB? Zalman WB at FrozenCPU Looks kinda weird. I wonder how well it works. It's pretty cheap, too. Are there any good performing blocks that come with fittings for AMD and P4? Last edited by cbone; 06-10-2003 at 01:16 PM.

06-10-2003, 12:21 PM	#3
Pritorian Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 201	Looks simlar too the AC stuff... And that performs Ok.. __________________ Boo!

06-10-2003, 09:03 PM	#9
JokerCPoC Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 130	The only problem with this Zalman WB is that It can't be mounted on a Socket A cpu, Just socket 478 & socket 754 (Opteron), Other than that It sure looks nice, I just wish Zalman had made this compatible with socket 462 though. Otherwise I'll just stick with Danger Den (Maze3 SHD) or something like that. Say anyone know which type of fittings are better - Brass, Chrome or Polypropylene? __________________ My Blog Joker1: 2-265 @ 2.25GHz cpus(OSA265FAA6CB)[H8DCE] soon Joker2: 1-165 @ 2.65GHz cpu[Bios/Clockgen405], MS-6702E v1.0(9.3 Bios) Joker3: 1-270 @ 2.40(2nd-270 cpu soon)GHz cpu[Ntune], K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker4: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker5: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) (10.10GHz now, 25.43GHz maybe? Crunchin 4 SetiBoinc for the PC Perspective Killer Frogs) Last edited by JokerCPoC; 06-10-2003 at 11:18 PM.

06-11-2003, 08:14 AM	#11
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06-11-2003, 10:43 PM	#16
JokerCPoC Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 130	Me I'm looking at either the Maze3 SHD, the Maze4 SHD (When It comes out) or the Gemini Cool (case-mod.com), The Last one is a High Volume CPU Cooler (Requires at least a 200Gph pump). Click on the Above Image for a Larger Image. __________________ My Blog Joker1: 2-265 @ 2.25GHz cpus(OSA265FAA6CB)[H8DCE] soon Joker2: 1-165 @ 2.65GHz cpu[Bios/Clockgen405], MS-6702E v1.0(9.3 Bios) Joker3: 1-270 @ 2.40(2nd-270 cpu soon)GHz cpu[Ntune], K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker4: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker5: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) (10.10GHz now, 25.43GHz maybe? Crunchin 4 SetiBoinc for the PC Perspective Killer Frogs)

06-10-2003, 11:59 AM	#2
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	that block might perform decently but i wouldnt expect it to be really good. the SlitEdge from BeCooling comes with both AMD and P4 hole mounts. not much has been said a/b this block but it has the second best C/W rating after the WhiteWater on overclockers.com.

06-10-2003, 01:46 PM	#4
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	49 dollars is pretty cheap? Maybe compared to a whitewater.

06-10-2003, 03:17 PM	#5
mrmoustache Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: columbus, ohio Posts: 44	hehe it's cheap compared to buying a mill and making one yourself maybe

06-10-2003, 05:44 PM	#7
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	Exact same principles in copper core design as the Innovatek Rev3 blocks and the WetandChillyChips CPU Block... not for the overclocker, but fine for someone looking for silence at stock or mildly oc'd speeds and taking the watercooling approach. All it has to do is keep the CPU below 60 degrees at the end of the day according to AMDs specs etc... It claims it helps silence, doesn't claim to offer brilliant performance. Just take it as advertised shrugs

06-10-2003, 11:47 PM	#10
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	they're all pretty much the same. but some are better then others at different applications. if you use a lexan top then its better to use polyprolene because it strains the lexan less and not as easy to crack. with a copper top brass or chrome are good and make it have a professional look. if you use annodized aluminum then chrome is better then brass because brass is a copper alloy and if the threading is chipped when you insert the brass barb then corrosion will occur.

06-11-2003, 11:59 PM	#17
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	case-mod is having a nice sale on all GeminiCool waterblocks. you should probably pick up the Mega Tsunami for only $25.

06-12-2003, 12:08 AM	#18
JokerCPoC Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 130	I would, But I'm limited to 1/2" OD - 3/8" ID Tubing. I'll have settle for what's compatible with My Tubing and My pump, It's a 200Gph pump. Edit: I didn't see any Mega Tsunami water blocks, On sale or otherwise, they must be out of them. The Tsunami water blocks are there and I may get one for My cpu and GF4 card, The chipset blocks will just have to wait though. __________________ My Blog Joker1: 2-265 @ 2.25GHz cpus(OSA265FAA6CB)[H8DCE] soon Joker2: 1-165 @ 2.65GHz cpu[Bios/Clockgen405], MS-6702E v1.0(9.3 Bios) Joker3: 1-270 @ 2.40(2nd-270 cpu soon)GHz cpu[Ntune], K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker4: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker5: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) (10.10GHz now, 25.43GHz maybe? Crunchin 4 SetiBoinc for the PC Perspective Killer Frogs) Last edited by JokerCPoC; 06-12-2003 at 12:25 AM.

06-12-2003, 12:48 AM	#19
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	hmmmm, sorry. they musta taken it off cuz the other day i saw the mega on sale.

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