Anyone use a YY cube and D-Tek heatercore?

vegetto714 · 06-11-2003, 01:40 PM

I was looking at the YY cube case for my watercooling, but Im not sure If my fan|shroud-heatercore-shroud|fan would fit in the front bottom of the mobo chamber. The heatercore is 6 inches wide and I dont know if there is that much space. Could someone measure it for me or something like that.

JSimmons · 06-11-2003, 02:09 PM

If you can provide a precise measurement of the heater core in question, I can provide the measurements of the motherboard side of the yycube.

First thing, though, I would recommend that you cut out the cage at the front that has the plastic card stabilizers in it. It's just in the way and uses up about three inches of space at the front of the case.

vegetto714 · 06-11-2003, 02:19 PM

Yeah thats what I was gonna do. The heatercore is exactly 6"x 7" X 2" so 6 inches wide. here is a link to it. http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...ategory_Code=R

I want to site it right in front and mount it to the front.

Prlwytkovsky · 06-12-2003, 08:58 AM

The depth of the motherboard compartment is only 5-3/4". I think the best thing to do is to put the heatercore in the back over the power supply. There is plenty of space for a 6" wide core (the drive compartment is considerably deeper than the motheboard compartment.)

JSimmons · 06-12-2003, 10:08 AM

I agree - putting it on the other side would be a better fit, and you could mount the ran fan on the outside of the box like I did to mine.

vegetto714 · 06-12-2003, 11:54 AM

Doesn't the back have two 92mm fan spots? My radiator would have 120mm and I don't know how to do case mods or drill holes

JSimmons · 06-12-2003, 12:27 PM

Nobody said adding watercooling gear was going to be easy.

I haven't seen a well-executed home-installed setup yet that didn't need some form of case mod.

vegetto714 · 06-12-2003, 12:44 PM

Well this is just great. Why couldn't they just make the mobo chamber an inch wider. It would have made things real easy.

JSimmons · 06-12-2003, 12:55 PM

Well, it would be a shame to buy such a nice rad without making the most efficient use out it. Without cutting out the back of the case, you'll be significantly reducing efficiency.

By the way, what kind of pump are you using, and where were you planning on putting it?

Prlwytkovsky · 06-12-2003, 01:26 PM

The YY case is very space efficient. It is a tight fit in the motherboard compartment. It would have been better if they made it an inch longer. There is hardly any space to route the cables from the motherboard compartment to the drive compartment. Check out JSimmons site (I think he is working on it right now): www.paddedwall.org/watercool/index.html

He has apparently found two versions of the case with different holes to route the cables through. I have the same type as him, only one small hole that is largly covered by the motherboard. On the other side it is obstructed by the 5-1/4" drive frame. If you have to route two watercooling hoses from one side to the other you would have to cut an additional hole. If you want to avoid drilling/cutting completely I don't think this is the case for you. Even with a smaller heatercore you still have to cut out the cardframe.

I tried to fit my heatercore and it fits with no space to spare. I bought a 2-471 core at Autozone (search for 3047169) for $33. It is 9-1/2" x 5-5/8" x 2. With a shroud and 1 inch thick fans on top of that would barely clear the motherboard. No space for a pump left so I have to route the hoses to the other compartment as well...

If you are going for a comercial watercooled case don't get a Koolance. They have really crappy pumps. I blew $350 on one of their first cases. Totally wasted money.

vegetto714 · 06-12-2003, 01:38 PM

I use a Via Aqua 1300 pump. Prlwytkovskym, what temps do you get with that heatercore at what voltages and at what CPU speeds.

JSimmons · 06-12-2003, 01:43 PM

Actually, 1/2-inch ID Tygon tubing can be routed *above* the motherboard pan with room to spare.

If that wasn't the case, I'd be madder'n a guy with an ex-wife asking for an increase in alimony payments.

Prlwytkovsky · 06-12-2003, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vegetto714
I use a Via Aqua 1300 pump. Prlwytkovskym, what temps do you get with that heatercore at what voltages and at what CPU speeds.

Oops not so fast. Haven't even decided on where to put my heatercore. My crappy Koolance is at about 110F. AMD 1200 not overclocked.

vegetto714 · 06-12-2003, 03:21 PM

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JokerCPoC · 06-13-2003, 10:12 PM

I moved My Question to It's own thread, Based on an Email I received from the Maker of the VIA AQUA 480.
Click Here for the New Thread.

Sproket · 06-14-2003, 12:35 AM

Just set it up on a test loop and if it doesw not leak you can use it inline.

JokerCPoC · 06-14-2003, 12:45 AM

I found out from the Maker of the Via Aqua 480 that You can, But the Inlet needs to be modded to accept a hose or tubing. The Outlet is fine though, As It has parts for both 3/8" and 1/2" included.

JSimmons · 06-14-2003, 06:18 AM

The 1300 already has acommodations for threaded fittings and has a 0-head flow of 370 GPH, and only costs $22 - the Aqua 2600 is double the specs (not sure of the price though). What are the specs for the 480?

JokerCPoC · 06-14-2003, 11:06 AM

Well It's a tiny 200Gph pump that's about 3.0"L x 1.75"W x 2.5"H in size. It has a ceramic shaft (that's what Via's site mentioned) And with a 3/4" ID fitting and a bushing that will mate with both the fitting and a 1/4" npt thread from a Hose Barb, I should have the Inlet modded for Tubing. The Outlet comes with parts for Tubing (1/2" or 3/8"), But They are short. Yeah It took Me a bit to think this up and some silicon adhesive will be needed on the fittings.

MadHacker · 06-27-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prlwytkovsky
The depth of the motherboard compartment is only 5-3/4". I think the best thing to do is to put the heatercore in the back over the power supply. There is plenty of space for a 6" wide core (the drive compartment is considerably deeper than the motheboard compartment.)

How wide is the drive compartment.
acording to specs the case is 13-1/4" wide so that would leave aprox 7-1/2" for the drive compartment. but just want to make sure.

I havn't picked out a heater core yet and don't want to get one that won't fit.

Thanks

Prlwytkovsky · 06-29-2003, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadHacker
How wide is the drive compartment.
acording to specs the case is 13-1/4" wide so that would leave aprox 7-1/2" for the drive compartment. but just want to make sure.

I havn't picked out a heater core yet and don't want to get one that won't fit.

Thanks

Yep it is about 7-1/2". The width is not the problem of the drive compartment. The height however is just not enough to fit a dual 12x12 cm fan heatercore over the power supply. So I'm thinking about mounting mine horizontally in the bottom of the drive compartment. With a nice shroud to blow out the hot air through where the power supply would sit. I'll move the powersupply to the top of the case. I wan't too happy with the idea of having my power supply below the heatercore. I'm not too squeemish about putting water in my computer but 110 Volt is not something to toy with.

If you would mount a heatercore over the power supply I would put a small pan underneath the core and a drain to the outside of the case.

MadHacker · 06-29-2003, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prlwytkovsky
The height however is just not enough to fit a dual 12x12 cm fan heatercore over the power supply.

I read

Quote:

Originaly Posted by Flashman18
I have the YY-0221B model. My power supply is 3.4 " tall
(its a pc power and cooling silencer 400w atx.)
From the top of that, it is 10 " to the top of the case. Hope it helps.

2 120mm fans is 9.4488" high.
with a decent shrowd and a heater core under 10" it should fit ok over the power supply.

Quote:

Originally posted by Prlwytkovsky
I'll move the powersupply to the top of the case. I wan't too happy with the idea
of having my power supply below the heatercore. I'm not too squeemish about putting water
in my computer but 110 Volt is not something to toy with.[/b]

a good idea. never thought of that untill you mentioned it.
I'm going to be carving a bill hole in the back anyways so i might as well move the Power supply as well.

06-11-2003, 01:40 PM	#1
vegetto714 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Posts: 10	Anyone use a YY cube and D-Tek heatercore? I was looking at the YY cube case for my watercooling, but Im not sure If my fan\|shroud-heatercore-shroud\|fan would fit in the front bottom of the mobo chamber. The heatercore is 6 inches wide and I dont know if there is that much space. Could someone measure it for me or something like that.

06-11-2003, 02:09 PM	#2
JSimmons Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4-sided room with an exit going east, and an exit going south Posts: 392	If you can provide a precise measurement of the heater core in question, I can provide the measurements of the motherboard side of the yycube. First thing, though, I would recommend that you cut out the cage at the front that has the plastic card stabilizers in it. It's just in the way and uses up about three inches of space at the front of the case. __________________ My Watercooling Stuff

06-12-2003, 08:58 AM	#4
Prlwytkovsky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Washington DC Posts: 28	Won't fit The depth of the motherboard compartment is only 5-3/4". I think the best thing to do is to put the heatercore in the back over the power supply. There is plenty of space for a 6" wide core (the drive compartment is considerably deeper than the motheboard compartment.)

06-12-2003, 10:08 AM	#5
JSimmons Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4-sided room with an exit going east, and an exit going south Posts: 392	I agree - putting it on the other side would be a better fit, and you could mount the ran fan on the outside of the box like I did to mine. __________________ My Watercooling Stuff

06-12-2003, 12:27 PM	#7
JSimmons Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4-sided room with an exit going east, and an exit going south Posts: 392	Nobody said adding watercooling gear was going to be easy. I haven't seen a well-executed home-installed setup yet that didn't need some form of case mod. __________________ My Watercooling Stuff

06-11-2003, 02:19 PM	#3
vegetto714 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Posts: 10	Yeah thats what I was gonna do. The heatercore is exactly 6"x 7" X 2" so 6 inches wide. here is a link to it. http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...ategory_Code=R I want to site it right in front and mount it to the front.

06-12-2003, 11:54 AM	#6
vegetto714 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Posts: 10	Doesn't the back have two 92mm fan spots? My radiator would have 120mm and I don't know how to do case mods or drill holes

06-12-2003, 12:44 PM	#8
vegetto714 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Posts: 10	Well this is just great. Why couldn't they just make the mobo chamber an inch wider. It would have made things real easy.

06-12-2003, 12:55 PM	#9
JSimmons Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4-sided room with an exit going east, and an exit going south Posts: 392	Well, it would be a shame to buy such a nice rad without making the most efficient use out it. Without cutting out the back of the case, you'll be significantly reducing efficiency. By the way, what kind of pump are you using, and where were you planning on putting it? __________________ My Watercooling Stuff

06-12-2003, 01:26 PM	#10
Prlwytkovsky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Washington DC Posts: 28	The YY case is very space efficient. It is a tight fit in the motherboard compartment. It would have been better if they made it an inch longer. There is hardly any space to route the cables from the motherboard compartment to the drive compartment. Check out JSimmons site (I think he is working on it right now): www.paddedwall.org/watercool/index.html He has apparently found two versions of the case with different holes to route the cables through. I have the same type as him, only one small hole that is largly covered by the motherboard. On the other side it is obstructed by the 5-1/4" drive frame. If you have to route two watercooling hoses from one side to the other you would have to cut an additional hole. If you want to avoid drilling/cutting completely I don't think this is the case for you. Even with a smaller heatercore you still have to cut out the cardframe. I tried to fit my heatercore and it fits with no space to spare. I bought a 2-471 core at Autozone (search for 3047169) for $33. It is 9-1/2" x 5-5/8" x 2. With a shroud and 1 inch thick fans on top of that would barely clear the motherboard. No space for a pump left so I have to route the hoses to the other compartment as well... If you are going for a comercial watercooled case don't get a Koolance. They have really crappy pumps. I blew $350 on one of their first cases. Totally wasted money.

06-12-2003, 01:38 PM	#11
vegetto714 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Posts: 10	I use a Via Aqua 1300 pump. Prlwytkovskym, what temps do you get with that heatercore at what voltages and at what CPU speeds.

06-12-2003, 01:43 PM	#12
JSimmons Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4-sided room with an exit going east, and an exit going south Posts: 392	Actually, 1/2-inch ID Tygon tubing can be routed above the motherboard pan with room to spare. If that wasn't the case, I'd be madder'n a guy with an ex-wife asking for an increase in alimony payments. __________________ My Watercooling Stuff

06-12-2003, 03:21 PM	#14
vegetto714 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MI Posts: 10	oHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

06-13-2003, 10:12 PM	#15
JokerCPoC Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 130	I moved My Question to It's own thread, Based on an Email I received from the Maker of the VIA AQUA 480. Click Here for the New Thread. __________________ My Blog Joker1: 2-265 @ 2.25GHz cpus(OSA265FAA6CB)[H8DCE] soon Joker2: 1-165 @ 2.65GHz cpu[Bios/Clockgen405], MS-6702E v1.0(9.3 Bios) Joker3: 1-270 @ 2.40(2nd-270 cpu soon)GHz cpu[Ntune], K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker4: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker5: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) (10.10GHz now, 25.43GHz maybe? Crunchin 4 SetiBoinc for the PC Perspective Killer Frogs) Last edited by JokerCPoC; 06-14-2003 at 12:47 AM.

06-14-2003, 12:35 AM	#16
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06-14-2003, 12:45 AM	#17
JokerCPoC Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 130	I found out from the Maker of the Via Aqua 480 that You can, But the Inlet needs to be modded to accept a hose or tubing. The Outlet is fine though, As It has parts for both 3/8" and 1/2" included. __________________ My Blog Joker1: 2-265 @ 2.25GHz cpus(OSA265FAA6CB)[H8DCE] soon Joker2: 1-165 @ 2.65GHz cpu[Bios/Clockgen405], MS-6702E v1.0(9.3 Bios) Joker3: 1-270 @ 2.40(2nd-270 cpu soon)GHz cpu[Ntune], K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker4: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker5: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) (10.10GHz now, 25.43GHz maybe? Crunchin 4 SetiBoinc for the PC Perspective Killer Frogs)

06-14-2003, 06:18 AM	#18
JSimmons Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 4-sided room with an exit going east, and an exit going south Posts: 392	The 1300 already has acommodations for threaded fittings and has a 0-head flow of 370 GPH, and only costs $22 - the Aqua 2600 is double the specs (not sure of the price though). What are the specs for the 480? __________________ My Watercooling Stuff

06-14-2003, 11:06 AM	#19
JokerCPoC Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 130	Well It's a tiny 200Gph pump that's about 3.0"L x 1.75"W x 2.5"H in size. It has a ceramic shaft (that's what Via's site mentioned) And with a 3/4" ID fitting and a bushing that will mate with both the fitting and a 1/4" npt thread from a Hose Barb, I should have the Inlet modded for Tubing. The Outlet comes with parts for Tubing (1/2" or 3/8"), But They are short. Yeah It took Me a bit to think this up and some silicon adhesive will be needed on the fittings. __________________ My Blog Joker1: 2-265 @ 2.25GHz cpus(OSA265FAA6CB)[H8DCE] soon Joker2: 1-165 @ 2.65GHz cpu[Bios/Clockgen405], MS-6702E v1.0(9.3 Bios) Joker3: 1-270 @ 2.40(2nd-270 cpu soon)GHz cpu[Ntune], K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker4: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) Joker5: 2-285 @ 3.25? GHz cpu[Ntune], (soon) K8N-DL v1.03(1007 Bios) (10.10GHz now, 25.43GHz maybe? Crunchin 4 SetiBoinc for the PC Perspective Killer Frogs)

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