My Maze4 Review - Page 3

bigben2k · 07-14-2003, 11:10 AM

Hum... there really isn't room for a center barb, is there?

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
Hum... there really isn't room for a center barb, is there?

No there isn't, not if you want to put hose's on or anything.

The overall base is 1/4", but from the bottom of the channels to the bottom of the base is only 1/8", which in reality should still be enough.

Skeptic · 07-14-2003, 11:49 AM

What if you created a new top for it, using a center barb...would that work?

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by Skeptic
What if you created a new top for it, using a center barb...would that work?

There isn't enough room. You put put a center inlet in but you wouldn't have room for an outlet and still be able to get a hose on. You limited by were the O ring is. You can't go past that.

bigben2k · 07-14-2003, 12:03 PM

How about putting in a couple of 1/4" barbs?

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
How about putting in a couple of 1/4" barbs?

3/8" might even work. The 1/4" NPT thread has me worried. Putting those holes that close together is asking for a break, unless you used a metal top... But the center will need some serious modding aswell as that 1/8" channel isn't going to do jack by itself.

airspirit · 07-14-2003, 04:20 PM

jaydee, if you can pump 2.35V through a TBredX without lighting it on fire, you will be my personal hero.

Honestly, though, you won't have to crank it up that high. If you put it at 2.0V (still frickin' dangerous on an "A") you would get similar results to mine, methinks. I'm not just getting heat from the voltage, but the sheer Mhz as well.

Once I had a TBredB that clocked to 2850 on this rig at 1.825V ... it was a beaut, but I sold it for an obscene amount of money to someone with a Prometia (how do you think I got the 2500+, 2100+, and extra 512Mb RAM?). I'm hoping he ends up on the top of the OC list with it soon ... but I digress.

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by airspirit
jaydee, if you can pump 2.35V through a TBredX without lighting it on fire, you will be my personal hero.

Honestly, though, you won't have to crank it up that high. If you put it at 2.0V (still frickin' dangerous on an "A") you would get similar results to mine, methinks. I'm not just getting heat from the voltage, but the sheer Mhz as well.

Once I had a TBredB that clocked to 2850 on this rig at 1.825V ... it was a beaut, but I sold it for an obscene amount of money to someone with a Prometia (how do you think I got the 2500+, 2100+, and extra 512Mb RAM?). I'm hoping he ends up on the top of the OC list with it soon ... but I digress.

If it fries then it fries.

I got plenty of backups and the will and cash to buy more CPU's. Looking pretty hard at the 2500+ Bartons..... The price seems pretty damn good and the OC's do to from what I have seen.

Skeptic · 07-14-2003, 04:43 PM

I just finished attemtping to install the Maze 3 waterblock that DangerDen sent me. I am at my wits end from this company, and frankly, I am tired of dealing with them. Let me recap for you guys.

1st - This is my first time ever attempting water-cooling. I have done air-cooled TEC's before with varying results. Did some research and decided to go with a kit from DangerDen.

I ordered a Maze 4 AMD block. I received a Maze 3 block. Looking at it closer, I received a Maze 3 Pentium block. WTF? I go back to the order details and it clearly states Maze 4 AMD......ok....little mixup I guess.

Called DangerDen and they sent me a new Maze 4 block. On the phone the lady asked me if it was AMD or Pentium. I said AMD. New block arrives.....guess what? They sent me a damn Pentium Maze 4!!!! WTF again?

So far my experience has not been a pleasant one. I have been itching to put this together for days now, and still cannot.

I called them back and said this was the last time I would be dealing with this particular issue and asked them to send me BOTH the Maze3 and Maze4 AMD blocks so I can compare the two side by side, otherwise I would return it all and and get a full refund.

We shall see what they send me.

So far, I am not very amused.

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 07:48 PM

I just hit 2gig for the first time in my life.

Had to set it to 2.0V to do it though stabily. That is where she is running and so far temps have shot up considerably. Will post back in an hours or so with temps if the comp doesn't crash first.

Skeptic · 07-14-2003, 08:24 PM

What are the temps Jay? Using the Maze 4?

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by Skeptic
What are the temps Jay? Using the Maze 4?

Just about to post an update!

XP1700+ TBred A
2.0V
2000mhz

Load Temps:
Room Temp: 26C
Water Temp: 33C
TC: 51C
Onboard: 47.5C

Maze 4 is comming of and will be dropping on my Rev. 5.0 now.

Althornin · 07-14-2003, 08:57 PM

god i envy your room temps...

Mine are 36C right now......blearg!

Skeptic · 07-14-2003, 09:05 PM

No kidding, my room temp is 34C right now. Which is one of the main reasons I wanted to switch to watercooling in the first place.

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 09:14 PM

A/C here. Otherwise it would be much warmer.

pakman · 07-14-2003, 09:16 PM

and I was complaining when room temps get to 30c!!!

26 is warm for us in the pacific n'west...

Jaydee, can't wait to see your results on your rev 5.0.

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by pakman

Jaydee, can't wait to see your results on your rev 5.0.

Not looking to good so far.....

Althornin · 07-14-2003, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
A/C here. Otherwise it would be much warmer.

its 35C now, and thats WITH AC.
I live in Texas, USA - its hotter than a mofo right now - especially on the second floor of a house with one AC unit and the thermostat downstairs....

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Althornin
its 35C now, and thats WITH AC.
I live in Texas, USA - its hotter than a mofo right now - especially on the second floor of a house with one AC unit and the thermostat downstairs....

I know all about Texas. I built 2 Costco Gas station canopies there. One in Austin and one in San Antonio. Was toasty for sure, especially in your full welding gear burning stick for 10hrs a day.

Remounting the Rev.5. So far it is 2C warmer than the Maze 4...

pakman · 07-14-2003, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
Remounting the Rev.5. So far it is 2C warmer than the Maze 4...

is that with the cpu@2000mhz/2.0vcore? guess its, back to the drawing board for rev 6...

bigben2k · 07-14-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Althornin
its 35C now, and thats WITH AC.
I live in Texas, USA - its hotter than a mofo right now - especially on the second floor of a house with one AC unit and the thermostat downstairs....

Dido...

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by pakman
is that with the cpu@2000mhz/2.0vcore? guess its, back to the drawing board for rev 6...

Yes it is still at 2V 2gig. I took it off and saw no visable signes of a bad mount. perfect Imprint of compound. So I took it off and now running my Rev. 4.0. it has been on for a few minutes and already at Maze 4 temps and climbing... Tomorrow I will hook up the Jet block #2 and see what happens.....

jaydee · 07-14-2003, 11:20 PM

Well I officially suck!

Rev. 5 sucks
Rev. 4 sucks
Jet Block 2 sucks

Putting the Lemon Block on now. I always liked this block! Never should have stopped working on it. If it looks decent I will make a Copper version of it soon....

Skeptic · 07-15-2003, 12:01 AM

Must be nice to have all that gear lying around. I have a Maze3 Pentium block for an AMD system. GOGO DangerDen!

pakman · 07-15-2003, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Skeptic
Must be nice to have all that gear lying around. I have a Maze3 Pentium block for an AMD system. GOGO DangerDen!

septic, sorry to hear about the DD order mixup. In my experience with dan and the dangerden crew have been excellent on numerous purchases and the after-service has been excellent. They have replaced/refunded cracked reservoirs and noisy pumps, no questions asked, return shipping refunded. Still not acceptable for that mixup, but I can only guess they are bit swamped with the release of a new product...

07-14-2003, 12:03 PM	#55
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	How about putting in a couple of 1/4" barbs? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-14-2003, 04:20 PM	#57
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	jaydee, if you can pump 2.35V through a TBredX without lighting it on fire, you will be my personal hero. Honestly, though, you won't have to crank it up that high. If you put it at 2.0V (still frickin' dangerous on an "A") you would get similar results to mine, methinks. I'm not just getting heat from the voltage, but the sheer Mhz as well. Once I had a TBredB that clocked to 2850 on this rig at 1.825V ... it was a beaut, but I sold it for an obscene amount of money to someone with a Prometia (how do you think I got the 2500+, 2100+, and extra 512Mb RAM?). I'm hoping he ends up on the top of the OC list with it soon ... but I digress. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

07-14-2003, 11:49 AM	#53
Skeptic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 48	What if you created a new top for it, using a center barb...would that work?

07-14-2003, 04:43 PM	#59
Skeptic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 48	I just finished attemtping to install the Maze 3 waterblock that DangerDen sent me. I am at my wits end from this company, and frankly, I am tired of dealing with them. Let me recap for you guys. 1st - This is my first time ever attempting water-cooling. I have done air-cooled TEC's before with varying results. Did some research and decided to go with a kit from DangerDen. I ordered a Maze 4 AMD block. I received a Maze 3 block. Looking at it closer, I received a Maze 3 Pentium block. WTF? I go back to the order details and it clearly states Maze 4 AMD......ok....little mixup I guess. Called DangerDen and they sent me a new Maze 4 block. On the phone the lady asked me if it was AMD or Pentium. I said AMD. New block arrives.....guess what? They sent me a damn Pentium Maze 4!!!! WTF again? So far my experience has not been a pleasant one. I have been itching to put this together for days now, and still cannot. I called them back and said this was the last time I would be dealing with this particular issue and asked them to send me BOTH the Maze3 and Maze4 AMD blocks so I can compare the two side by side, otherwise I would return it all and and get a full refund. We shall see what they send me. So far, I am not very amused.

07-14-2003, 07:48 PM	#60
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	I just hit 2gig for the first time in my life. Had to set it to 2.0V to do it though stabily. That is where she is running and so far temps have shot up considerably. Will post back in an hours or so with temps if the comp doesn't crash first.

07-14-2003, 08:24 PM	#61
Skeptic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 48	What are the temps Jay? Using the Maze 4?

07-14-2003, 08:57 PM	#63
Althornin Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 221	god i envy your room temps... Mine are 36C right now......blearg!

07-14-2003, 09:05 PM	#64
Skeptic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 48	No kidding, my room temp is 34C right now. Which is one of the main reasons I wanted to switch to watercooling in the first place.

07-14-2003, 09:14 PM	#65
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	A/C here. Otherwise it would be much warmer.

07-14-2003, 09:16 PM	#66
pakman Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA State Posts: 76	and I was complaining when room temps get to 30c!!! 26 is warm for us in the pacific n'west... Jaydee, can't wait to see your results on your rev 5.0.

07-14-2003, 11:20 PM	#73
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Well I officially suck! Rev. 5 sucks Rev. 4 sucks Jet Block 2 sucks Putting the Lemon Block on now. I always liked this block! Never should have stopped working on it. If it looks decent I will make a Copper version of it soon....

07-15-2003, 12:01 AM	#74
Skeptic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 48	Must be nice to have all that gear lying around. I have a Maze3 Pentium block for an AMD system. GOGO DangerDen!

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