Cloudy water after just 8 hours??!

h4rm0nix · 08-15-2003, 08:45 AM

Alright, by now many of you know my story. I'm the guy with the busted MCP300 (which has since been replaced with a kick ass Hydor), I'm also one of the guys testing a UV Clarifier for anti-biomass usage.

However, in the process of getting all this started I keep running into the same problem and am hoping someone from here can help me out.

I filled the system with a water/pinesol mix last night, everything looked good, let it run for about 2 hours or so. Then I switched over to a 100% Distilled water mixture, and I went ahead and left the fill/bleed tubes in, that way I cycled the whole gallon.

The next morning I noticed the tubes were slightly cloudy, so I flushed and went back to the pinesol mixture.

I opted to pour some of the water into a glass so you could see just how cloudy it is...

Thick water

It's got a mettalic smell to it, however I just can't figure out what this stuff is...

I've got a plethera of chemicals I can try, plus the UV clarifier should keep the bugs out of the system, I just want clear water?

Is this too much to ask?! :shrug:

airspirit · 08-16-2003, 10:17 PM

That doesn't make too much sense ... are you sure you're flushing it good enough? The only other thing I can think of is if you are getting corrosion of some sort going on, though I'm remembering for some reason that you're using all copper ....

I'd try flushing the bejeezus out of it and then giving it another go ... remember that Pine-Sol can stick to the tubing pretty good, and if it is in the water can cause it to go a bit milky white. If you are using soft/porous tubing, it may be taking a while for it to fully leach out of the plastic.

h4rm0nix · 08-17-2003, 07:06 AM

You know, I thought of that.

So I re-ran with Pinesol for a few more hours, then a hard flush of distilled water.

My final mixture is distilled with about 3 cap fulls of WW.

I am getting rather clear water (WW adds some haze), however I have not noticed anything growing on the walls of the tubing.

So far the UV Clarifier is doing its job rather well.

I'll post some pics once I get the holes bored in the case so I can mount the "sprinkler head" (UV Clarifier ) on its side.

Thanks for replying, I was beginning to wonder when it hit 80 views and no posts

h

CoolROD · 08-17-2003, 03:42 PM

Did that cloudy glass clear up over time? Some of it could have been air suspension...

h4rm0nix · 08-17-2003, 03:59 PM

Nope it was some sort of metallic residue.

I was able to get rid of it with a couple of pinesol cleanings.

Left a sheen on anything it touched.

Really nasty stuff.

h

Arcturius · 08-17-2003, 04:29 PM

What are you using for a radiator? I have a used Chevette heatercore with a little corrosion in it that does the same thing; sediments seem to be washing out of the core and into the rest of my system, over time.
The other thing I did wrong was to use filtered tapwater (through a Brita pitcher) without any additives as a coolant--I only intended to run the system for a few days as a test, and ended up not tearing it down for about two months...

I didn't notice it happen that quickly, though. My clearflex took almost a month to get cloudy, and the water I dumped out wasn't _too_ horribly cloudy.

h4rm0nix · 08-17-2003, 04:49 PM

I've got a simple pro-combo ( I think it's a dtek rad).

100% distilled water with some WW for corrosion prevention.

UV Clarifier should be taking care of the rest.

Caught onto another neat trick today, since I am a closed loop system I needed a way to prime the pump, or to purge the system. I ended up using a simple air pump from our air mattress.

Worked like a champ, just don't get any water in it

h

winewood · 08-17-2003, 06:34 PM

Me thinks you just had extra solution in your mix that was still reacting to the crud in the rad and block. It couldn't be bacteria since that mix would be death to anything living.

08-15-2003, 08:45 AM	#1
h4rm0nix Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 45	Cloudy water after just 8 hours??! Alright, by now many of you know my story. I'm the guy with the busted MCP300 (which has since been replaced with a kick ass Hydor), I'm also one of the guys testing a UV Clarifier for anti-biomass usage. However, in the process of getting all this started I keep running into the same problem and am hoping someone from here can help me out. I filled the system with a water/pinesol mix last night, everything looked good, let it run for about 2 hours or so. Then I switched over to a 100% Distilled water mixture, and I went ahead and left the fill/bleed tubes in, that way I cycled the whole gallon. The next morning I noticed the tubes were slightly cloudy, so I flushed and went back to the pinesol mixture. I opted to pour some of the water into a glass so you could see just how cloudy it is... Thick water It's got a mettalic smell to it, however I just can't figure out what this stuff is... I've got a plethera of chemicals I can try, plus the UV clarifier should keep the bugs out of the system, I just want clear water? Is this too much to ask?! :shrug:

08-16-2003, 10:17 PM	#2
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	That doesn't make too much sense ... are you sure you're flushing it good enough? The only other thing I can think of is if you are getting corrosion of some sort going on, though I'm remembering for some reason that you're using all copper .... I'd try flushing the bejeezus out of it and then giving it another go ... remember that Pine-Sol can stick to the tubing pretty good, and if it is in the water can cause it to go a bit milky white. If you are using soft/porous tubing, it may be taking a while for it to fully leach out of the plastic. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

08-17-2003, 03:42 PM	#4
CoolROD Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 225	Did that cloudy glass clear up over time? Some of it could have been air suspension... __________________ Jack of all Trades, Master of None.

08-17-2003, 06:34 PM	#8
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	Me thinks you just had extra solution in your mix that was still reacting to the crud in the rad and block. It couldn't be bacteria since that mix would be death to anything living. __________________ -winewood-

08-17-2003, 07:06 AM	#3
h4rm0nix Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 45	You know, I thought of that. So I re-ran with Pinesol for a few more hours, then a hard flush of distilled water. My final mixture is distilled with about 3 cap fulls of WW. I am getting rather clear water (WW adds some haze), however I have not noticed anything growing on the walls of the tubing. So far the UV Clarifier is doing its job rather well. I'll post some pics once I get the holes bored in the case so I can mount the "sprinkler head" (UV Clarifier ) on its side. Thanks for replying, I was beginning to wonder when it hit 80 views and no posts h

08-17-2003, 03:59 PM	#5
h4rm0nix Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 45	Nope it was some sort of metallic residue. I was able to get rid of it with a couple of pinesol cleanings. Left a sheen on anything it touched. Really nasty stuff. h

08-17-2003, 04:29 PM	#6
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	What are you using for a radiator? I have a used Chevette heatercore with a little corrosion in it that does the same thing; sediments seem to be washing out of the core and into the rest of my system, over time. The other thing I did wrong was to use filtered tapwater (through a Brita pitcher) without any additives as a coolant--I only intended to run the system for a few days as a test, and ended up not tearing it down for about two months... I didn't notice it happen that quickly, though. My clearflex took almost a month to get cloudy, and the water I dumped out wasn't _too_ horribly cloudy.

08-17-2003, 04:49 PM	#7
h4rm0nix Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 45	I've got a simple pro-combo ( I think it's a dtek rad). 100% distilled water with some WW for corrosion prevention. UV Clarifier should be taking care of the rest. Caught onto another neat trick today, since I am a closed loop system I needed a way to prime the pump, or to purge the system. I ended up using a simple air pump from our air mattress. Worked like a champ, just don't get any water in it h

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