Interesting Thread

bozo · 12-04-2003, 09:41 PM

Here

whooo, the ppl at pimprig are flaming procooling ppl. odd

jaydee · 12-04-2003, 09:49 PM

I got banned because of an argumnet caused by people from pimprig. All about the direct die cooling to boot. That thread you linked was from bit-tech BTW not pimprig. I will drop in there in a minute.

pHaestus · 12-04-2003, 11:14 PM

not really too much flaming there; seems like others stuck up for us without any intervention. Please continue to keep it civil guys. So far I'm proud of you cocky bastards

jaydee · 12-04-2003, 11:49 PM

Heh, searched procooling at pimprig.

http://www.pimprig.com/forums/showth...ght=procooling

By the way I am the one they referred to as "cooling god". Once you reach a certain amount of posts on this site that will become your default title. I explained that to them but they didn't get it I guess. Anyway after the ban was up I had Joe change it to what it is now. And I never said it wasn't possible, I said it wasn't useful. As shown I even did it myself just to prove it.

Heh, and this was the result of the thread on this site that got me banned here.

http://www.pimprig.com/forums/showth...ght=procooling

He still refuses to properly test his stuff which just makes his whole effort a waste to anyone but him. I at least try to give some comparable results with my stuff. But anyway I digress.

There is a similar procooling slag fest at liquidnija in which I am the main culprit again.

http://www.liquidninjas.com/bbs/show...&threadid=6410

I just have to sit back and laugh. I find it humorous they come to this site, spew their ignorance, get questioned, can't back up them selfs with anything resembling logic, and then go to their own site and make a cry baby thread about how much we suck and then we get a bad rap for trying to cut the BS and get things right. :shrug: Oh well. Time for bed.

bozo · 12-04-2003, 11:58 PM

lol
the thread at liquid ninjas is HIGHLY amusing, we got a guy how has never heard of a cascade

Quote:

I can't see why everyone is saying the RBX is copying the WW. I've had the RBX in my hand. I've never seen the WW in real life but I don't see all the similarity. Ok, it has 3 barbs on it as does the WW.

strange.....

bozo · 12-05-2003, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Hey tom,
Who is this jaydee116 guy and who does he think he is? I mean comon, i've been o/c, watercooling for 2yrs now. I know who the big gun's are, but yet i've never heard of the master waterblock maker, and substiantial high overclocking king.

If I mention the names: Oppintainer, Mdzcpa, Player0, sysfailur, JCviggen, MrIcee, ctgilles... Just to mention a few.

Almost everyone knows these guys obtian the highest overclocks, highest benchmarks and some are amongst the top names in reviewing.

Yes I am personally attacking this "jaydee116" character and I hope he quotes me personally at procooling. He may proclaim himself to be a waterblock designer, but so could I. I will buy a slab of copper, mill some passages and throw some barbs on it.

His respones at procooling were rude and uncalled for, his childish acts are stupid.

I'v never seen any of the names I'v mentioned above verbaly attack someone about their hypthosises.

If he is really this Master waterblock maker and extreme overclocker, he should get a life and not spend so much time bashing people.

which side of the world are these ppl from?

iroc409 · 12-05-2003, 05:58 AM

wow, they have exceptionally gargantamous sigs over there, and they don't really promote anything. annoying on 2 counts, bleh!

scopEDog · 12-05-2003, 07:00 AM

Quote:

If I mention the names: Oppintainer, Mdzcpa, Player0, sysfailur, JCviggen, MrIcee, ctgilles... Just to mention a few.

Who the heck are these people? Are we supposed to know? Anyways jaydee, when are you planning on your direct die update? Just curious..

bozo · 12-05-2003, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by scopEDog
Who the heck are these people? Are we supposed to know? Anyways jaydee, when are you planning on your direct die update? Just curious..

welcome from bit-tech, welcome to procooling

RedPhoenix · 12-05-2003, 08:10 AM

I think they are just jealous

jaydee · 12-05-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scopEDog
Anyways jaydee, when are you planning on your direct die update? Just curious..

By the end of this month is should be running. It would be done much sooner but my Mill is 120miles away.

pHaestus · 12-05-2003, 11:18 AM

Oppainter, sysfailur, JCviggen, & MrIcee are well known to me as crazy extreme overclockers (insane phase change, TEC+water, and hardware mods). I think all are affiliated in some way with www.xtremesystems.org. I KNOW all are always found somewhere near the top of 3dmark rankings and have been for a long time now.

Player0 was unknown to me before that thread about his RBX review on the forums but I believe he is also a fairly well known pelt+water extreme overclocker.

Other people I just don't know.

Honestly we aren't extreme overclockers here by and large. I am fairly extreme in hardware modification when required but I'm still using a GF3 in my gaming box so I am not about to break any 3dmark records. I DO know a fair amount about testing and heat transfer theory though...

jaydee · 12-05-2003, 11:33 AM

As pH pointed out those people are benchmark whores who have nothing better to spend their money and time on then getting the best 3DMark. Nothing wrong with that really but it certainly isn't worth my time. Does it make any difference in my life if I get a high 3D mark score and spend thousands to do it? LOL, no...

There is some misconception that if you buy/make water cooling gear your trying to be a overclocker or something. Overclocking is something I do regularly only to get as many D.F. points as I can. I water cool to keep those comps quiet as the cruch 24/7. I do not bother with benchmarks as they have no real relevance to me.

In that quote above they somehow came to the conclusion, out of thin air BTW, that I make myself out to be a master water block designer and a king overclocker.

I have never said anything about trying to be a king overclocker, it isn't even one of my intrests. I spout off about my designs now and then, but I actually have these blocks that I made to back my self up with.

It isn't just hot air. Just because I don't post on the forum they are on doesn't mean I never existed. There are thousands of tech sites out there and last I checked there is no such auto responding software available to where I can reply to all of them at the same time day after day.

Which is probably a good thing.

Whatever though....

UnloadeD · 12-05-2003, 02:25 PM

hehehe, imagine what they'd think if BillA came crashing through one of their threads! It would be a complete waste of his time, but I'd get a sick kinda enjoyment watching the aftermath.

peace.
unloaded

pHaestus · 12-05-2003, 05:18 PM

Bill used to post on the Hardforums. I saw a flashing "train wreck in sight" sign every time I saw his name on a thread there.

V12|V12 · 12-05-2003, 05:22 PM

Hrmm, it's FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE WEEKENDS HERE I NEED TO UNWIND... WHERE'S THE PARTY, MR.DEEJAY!!? You know upon reading what the "other" forum's patrons/members had to say about certain folks over "here," I began to think... HEY am I actually one of those "ProCooling guys'" and should I wait and think on this topic and maybe come back to post with some intoxicated epiphany...Which will probably lead to the usual "getting rolled through the brambles" by the "higher ups." But so what, I'm not (EDIT, I AM!!!--->) looking forward to getting in hot water, BURN BABY! Untill later tonight..... *POOF*

pHaestus · 12-05-2003, 08:45 PM

I am for some reason imagining a guy with a mullet and a tallboy finishing it off, throwing can over shoulder, ripping off shirt, and saying "Who wants some?"

Cathar · 12-05-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus
Honestly we aren't extreme overclockers here by and large.

Hmph - I've held the #1 AMD-based scores on the 3DMark ORB numerous times in the last 3 years.

I'm a bit of a weirdo though in that I'm really lazy about it. I don't throw money at it like crazy. I just buy and upgrade like everyone else, but I'm also not scared to push hardware that I get to high levels if the gains are there for minimal effort.

For example, having an AthlonXP CPU that will do ~2.8GHz with water-cooling (not the CPU that I have now which does better), and a Radeon 9800Pro that would do 570MHz on the core with a peltier after a brief experiment, well that just begged me to go and set the highest AMD score on the ORB for a while. Once it got overtaken though, I found myself reluctant to go out and buy the latest of everything again just to get it back. I just like pushing whatever happens to be in my system at the moment to the limit just to see what it will do.

I guess you could call it "The theory of opportunistic benchmarking for the lazy".

killernoodle · 12-05-2003, 10:13 PM

I'm pretty new here, and I have never been flamed. Thanks guys!

Obviously, I am one of the luckier ones who hasnt been run off by your tyrannical thread posting madness

Yeah, I know what you mean Cathar. I like to spend money on my computer, but not to the point where I will buy a $1000 P4 3200 EE chip because it is the fastest thing out. Instead, I like to buy a $60 1700+ and push it to 2.63 without volt modding the chipset and run completely stable and quiet and still faster than that stupid megasuperultradeluxe p4 chip.

I push my stuff hard, but sometimes you have to be realistic about it.

V12|V12 · 12-06-2003, 05:02 AM

Killer,

HAhA! You just wait (oh btw, my drunken raid will now begin!) You post something that is viewed as noob info or something that you "SHOULD" have googled or done some cooling research on and BAM, your ass will get flamed by one of the "higher-ups" with out question... I make it a point to NEVER do that to folks, if I have, I'm sorry, truly... And upon reading what the other forums have had to say about certain folks and the overall attitude about this forum... ... ... I'm going to HAVE to agree!

I know there are some GOOD knowledgeable people here, and there are some cooling machines here also who don't follow anything but logic mindedness. One person in particular who I would consider a "higher up" is BigBen2k.... That guy has NEVER EVER said anything bad to me, no matter how dumb/noob I came off being in a post, NEVER... Just do a search on some of my less accomplished posts, you'll see me getting "rolled-through-the-thorns" THEN for a slight moment, a small break in the posts of fury... and that guy is BB2k! He just somehow finds a TACTFUL way of letting you know that you are in error and how to correct it. No ego, no pussy ass "I'm more experienced that you are, so I'm always right muhahaha" type of post, just plain, simple facts Vs fiction and a nice nudge to correcting yourself...... I hate, okay no I don't, I agree with some of them "other guys," about the lack of tactfulness/grace that most of the "higher ups" have here! Folks, you NEED to calm down, realize this is a HOBBY and if it indeed is your LIFE or you make it out to be and you're not getting PAID big money to do it, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Being a "bigshot" on a forum? HAHA aka "pawn," in real life. Nobody cares about people who know a lot but talk down to others and make themselves out to be more than anyone else, (who really cares to give them acknowledgement for)... that's right, you are a "BIGSHOT" on a damn internet forum, that's about it my friends, you're NOT some super-special guy running shit for a major operations corporation, you're a long time poster on a WATERCOOLING FORUM, get over yourself and start treating people like HUMANS and not some misguided military general, disciplining his ignorant troops. Screw off! I'm betting that most people would get along FINE with out these types of jerks and assholes... Just because you are more knowledgeable or experienced about a particular field, or a vast amount of fields, does NOT give you a free "Be a cock about everything you say" card... well It may in some people's short-sighted opinion, but I could care less and I'm betting other's don't either.

When someone of that nature replies to something I post and comes off like they usually do, I just filter out the facts from the fluff/ego and get what I need out of it, otherwise the rest, I view them as a clown and a joke who need not be bothered with. For all of you that make this forum a VERY VERY knowledgeable place with some humility, hats off... for those of you with vast amounts of knowledge who like to post like an ass, whether you are right or not, F**K YOU, nobody NEEDS your input, there are other's around with equal or more knowledge, who have learned social mannerisms and are actually liked, not feared for their informative inputs.... There's nothing worse than worrying about what you're about to post may come back at you with a pie-in-your-face (This post as example!) So, roll me in your thorns if you like, but YOU are the one's that are making this place talked about in a NEGATIVE light, not based on your factual knowledge or opinions, but your LACK-- of taste, class, tact and sense decency. Have a nice intox'd DAY/NIGHT!

Cathar · 12-06-2003, 06:04 AM

Uh huh. Pleasantly inebriated myself.

I lurve yuousse. No reelly man - i reely luv youss. yous my besht pal. howsh about it guys? is this fella right here freakin fantashtic or wot?

WAJ_UK · 12-06-2003, 07:14 AM

I'm must be quite lucky I haven't been 'flamed' yet despite being a newbie knowing very little about computers. I'm more interested in the heat transfer/ fluid mechanics side of water cooling. I still have a Duron 800 and a 24 speed cdrom that won't read cdrs

found lots of useful info and links from this site though especially for setting up a test bench to develop my wb design (CFD is a bit advanced for me at the moment)

12-04-2003, 11:14 PM	#3
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	not really too much flaming there; seems like others stuck up for us without any intervention. Please continue to keep it civil guys. So far I'm proud of you cocky bastards __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-05-2003, 05:58 AM	#7
iroc409 Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: midwest side, yo Posts: 596	wow, they have exceptionally gargantamous sigs over there, and they don't really promote anything. annoying on 2 counts, bleh! __________________ :shrug:

12-05-2003, 08:10 AM	#10
RedPhoenix Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 266	I think they are just jealous __________________ rawr www.mysoarer.com

12-05-2003, 11:18 AM	#12
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Oppainter, sysfailur, JCviggen, & MrIcee are well known to me as crazy extreme overclockers (insane phase change, TEC+water, and hardware mods). I think all are affiliated in some way with www.xtremesystems.org. I KNOW all are always found somewhere near the top of 3dmark rankings and have been for a long time now. Player0 was unknown to me before that thread about his RBX review on the forums but I believe he is also a fairly well known pelt+water extreme overclocker. Other people I just don't know. Honestly we aren't extreme overclockers here by and large. I am fairly extreme in hardware modification when required but I'm still using a GF3 in my gaming box so I am not about to break any 3dmark records. I DO know a fair amount about testing and heat transfer theory though... __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-05-2003, 05:18 PM	#15
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Bill used to post on the Hardforums. I saw a flashing "train wreck in sight" sign every time I saw his name on a thread there. __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-04-2003, 09:41 PM	#1
bozo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: singapore Posts: 39	Interesting Thread Here whooo, the ppl at pimprig are flaming procooling ppl. odd

12-04-2003, 09:49 PM	#2
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	I got banned because of an argumnet caused by people from pimprig. All about the direct die cooling to boot. That thread you linked was from bit-tech BTW not pimprig. I will drop in there in a minute.

12-04-2003, 11:49 PM	#4
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Heh, searched procooling at pimprig. http://www.pimprig.com/forums/showth...ght=procooling By the way I am the one they referred to as "cooling god". Once you reach a certain amount of posts on this site that will become your default title. I explained that to them but they didn't get it I guess. Anyway after the ban was up I had Joe change it to what it is now. And I never said it wasn't possible, I said it wasn't useful. As shown I even did it myself just to prove it. Heh, and this was the result of the thread on this site that got me banned here. http://www.pimprig.com/forums/showth...ght=procooling He still refuses to properly test his stuff which just makes his whole effort a waste to anyone but him. I at least try to give some comparable results with my stuff. But anyway I digress. There is a similar procooling slag fest at liquidnija in which I am the main culprit again. http://www.liquidninjas.com/bbs/show...&threadid=6410 I just have to sit back and laugh. I find it humorous they come to this site, spew their ignorance, get questioned, can't back up them selfs with anything resembling logic, and then go to their own site and make a cry baby thread about how much we suck and then we get a bad rap for trying to cut the BS and get things right. :shrug: Oh well. Time for bed.

12-05-2003, 11:33 AM	#13
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	As pH pointed out those people are benchmark whores who have nothing better to spend their money and time on then getting the best 3DMark. Nothing wrong with that really but it certainly isn't worth my time. Does it make any difference in my life if I get a high 3D mark score and spend thousands to do it? LOL, no... There is some misconception that if you buy/make water cooling gear your trying to be a overclocker or something. Overclocking is something I do regularly only to get as many D.F. points as I can. I water cool to keep those comps quiet as the cruch 24/7. I do not bother with benchmarks as they have no real relevance to me. In that quote above they somehow came to the conclusion, out of thin air BTW, that I make myself out to be a master water block designer and a king overclocker. I have never said anything about trying to be a king overclocker, it isn't even one of my intrests. I spout off about my designs now and then, but I actually have these blocks that I made to back my self up with. It isn't just hot air. Just because I don't post on the forum they are on doesn't mean I never existed. There are thousands of tech sites out there and last I checked there is no such auto responding software available to where I can reply to all of them at the same time day after day. Which is probably a good thing. Whatever though....

12-05-2003, 02:25 PM	#14
UnloadeD Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MidWest USA Posts: 176	hehehe, imagine what they'd think if BillA came crashing through one of their threads! It would be a complete waste of his time, but I'd get a sick kinda enjoyment watching the aftermath. peace. unloaded

12-05-2003, 05:22 PM	#16
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	Hrmm, it's FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE WEEKENDS HERE I NEED TO UNWIND... WHERE'S THE PARTY, MR.DEEJAY!!? You know upon reading what the "other" forum's patrons/members had to say about certain folks over "here," I began to think... HEY am I actually one of those "ProCooling guys'" and should I wait and think on this topic and maybe come back to post with some intoxicated epiphany...Which will probably lead to the usual "getting rolled through the brambles" by the "higher ups." But so what, I'm not (EDIT, I AM!!!--->) looking forward to getting in hot water, BURN BABY! Untill later tonight..... POOF __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

12-05-2003, 08:45 PM	#17
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I am for some reason imagining a guy with a mullet and a tallboy finishing it off, throwing can over shoulder, ripping off shirt, and saying "Who wants some?" __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-05-2003, 10:13 PM	#19
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	I'm pretty new here, and I have never been flamed. Thanks guys! Obviously, I am one of the luckier ones who hasnt been run off by your tyrannical thread posting madness Yeah, I know what you mean Cathar. I like to spend money on my computer, but not to the point where I will buy a $1000 P4 3200 EE chip because it is the fastest thing out. Instead, I like to buy a $60 1700+ and push it to 2.63 without volt modding the chipset and run completely stable and quiet and still faster than that stupid megasuperultradeluxe p4 chip. I push my stuff hard, but sometimes you have to be realistic about it. __________________ I have a nice computer.

12-06-2003, 05:02 AM	#20
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	Killer, HAhA! You just wait (oh btw, my drunken raid will now begin!) You post something that is viewed as noob info or something that you "SHOULD" have googled or done some cooling research on and BAM, your ass will get flamed by one of the "higher-ups" with out question... I make it a point to NEVER do that to folks, if I have, I'm sorry, truly... And upon reading what the other forums have had to say about certain folks and the overall attitude about this forum... ... ... I'm going to HAVE to agree! I know there are some GOOD knowledgeable people here, and there are some cooling machines here also who don't follow anything but logic mindedness. One person in particular who I would consider a "higher up" is BigBen2k.... That guy has NEVER EVER said anything bad to me, no matter how dumb/noob I came off being in a post, NEVER... Just do a search on some of my less accomplished posts, you'll see me getting "rolled-through-the-thorns" THEN for a slight moment, a small break in the posts of fury... and that guy is BB2k! He just somehow finds a TACTFUL way of letting you know that you are in error and how to correct it. No ego, no pussy ass "I'm more experienced that you are, so I'm always right muhahaha" type of post, just plain, simple facts Vs fiction and a nice nudge to correcting yourself...... I hate, okay no I don't, I agree with some of them "other guys," about the lack of tactfulness/grace that most of the "higher ups" have here! Folks, you NEED to calm down, realize this is a HOBBY and if it indeed is your LIFE or you make it out to be and you're not getting PAID big money to do it, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Being a "bigshot" on a forum? HAHA aka "pawn," in real life. Nobody cares about people who know a lot but talk down to others and make themselves out to be more than anyone else, (who really cares to give them acknowledgement for)... that's right, you are a "BIGSHOT" on a damn internet forum, that's about it my friends, you're NOT some super-special guy running shit for a major operations corporation, you're a long time poster on a WATERCOOLING FORUM, get over yourself and start treating people like HUMANS and not some misguided military general, disciplining his ignorant troops. Screw off! I'm betting that most people would get along FINE with out these types of jerks and assholes... Just because you are more knowledgeable or experienced about a particular field, or a vast amount of fields, does NOT give you a free "Be a cock about everything you say" card... well It may in some people's short-sighted opinion, but I could care less and I'm betting other's don't either. When someone of that nature replies to something I post and comes off like they usually do, I just filter out the facts from the fluff/ego and get what I need out of it, otherwise the rest, I view them as a clown and a joke who need not be bothered with. For all of you that make this forum a VERY VERY knowledgeable place with some humility, hats off... for those of you with vast amounts of knowledge who like to post like an ass, whether you are right or not, F*K YOU, nobody NEEDS your input, there are other's around with equal or more knowledge, who have learned social mannerisms and are actually liked, not feared for their informative inputs.... There's nothing worse than worrying about what you're about to post may come back at you with a pie-in-your-face (This post as example!) So, roll me in your thorns if you like, but YOU are the one's that are making this place talked about in a NEGATIVE light, not based on your factual knowledge or opinions, but your LACK-- of taste, class, tact and sense decency. Have a nice intox'd DAY/NIGHT! __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

12-06-2003, 06:04 AM	#21
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Uh huh. Pleasantly inebriated myself. I lurve yuousse. No reelly man - i reely luv youss. yous my besht pal. howsh about it guys? is this fella right here freakin fantashtic or wot?

12-06-2003, 07:14 AM	#22
WAJ_UK Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sussex Posts: 109	I'm must be quite lucky I haven't been 'flamed' yet despite being a newbie knowing very little about computers. I'm more interested in the heat transfer/ fluid mechanics side of water cooling. I still have a Duron 800 and a 24 speed cdrom that won't read cdrs found lots of useful info and links from this site though especially for setting up a test bench to develop my wb design (CFD is a bit advanced for me at the moment)

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