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Unread 05-14-2002, 03:12 PM   #26
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Well my ram still works, but I think the thing that is holding me back is not ram at all. Think its actually my board thats limiting my overclock. Ram is real chilly at the moment. I'll be back with some pics.
I dont believe that chilling it to such a temp that even a metal clamp seperated by silicone and neoprene gets really cold would not even improve my FSB by 1 Mhz. I'll monitor it further.
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Unread 05-14-2002, 03:29 PM   #27
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you gotta get one of them Epoxes
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Unread 05-14-2002, 03:39 PM   #28
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Unread 05-14-2002, 04:00 PM   #29
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thats cool, now all ya need is a pelt cooled north bridge! hehehe

the cpu is pelt cooled rite?

you cant pelt cool a hdd because they wont run at cold temps.. adn you would get condensation inside....
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Unread 05-14-2002, 04:05 PM   #30
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I've been following your setup for a while.

Glad to see the RAM is still working!
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Unread 05-14-2002, 04:06 PM   #31
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oh my god

you are at the top of the "ghetto" chain.

Its like a mad scientists lair...
it reminds me of my room...
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Unread 05-14-2002, 05:07 PM   #32
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Wow, that takes up a lot of real estate
Looks cool though. I can see you're well experienced at dealing with condensation.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 02:02 AM   #33
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MeltMan
You should change your name to GhettoMan because thats the coolest setup iv'e ever seen.
Next thing you might want to try is to buy a few carbondioxide fire-extinguishers and freeze the entire room. Like big Arnold does to Gotham City in Batman.

Have you tried to cool your NB with a pelt?
It might help if its your mobo thats holding you back.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 03:13 AM   #34
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I would but my NB area is very crammed due to the mobo's design. This InnoBD KT266A mobo's cheap, only cost me US80 bucks, but it has its drawbacks I guess. I feel like selling this to get a KR7 or an Epox KT333, but the work I would have to go through again....
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Unread 05-15-2002, 07:53 AM   #35
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Well, it does look like you'll need another mobo. You get what you pay for. You can get away with it in water-cooling, but you can't get away with it in electronics, sorry.

To those who would critic the huge rig: just remember that this fella is experimenting with all this stuff. If the experiment is succesfull, I'm sure that his next move will be to figure out how to mount the whole thing neatly in a minimum amount of space.
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Unread 05-16-2002, 02:01 AM   #36
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yeah, go for a new rig, complete with new board, cpu, ram, etc.

I agree with bigben, it's easy to critisize, but his system is cooled really well
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Unread 05-17-2002, 11:36 AM   #37
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Hey Miss_Man, sorry to arrive late, but better late than never. Glad to see you got the thing together...I think your probe is wrong, because the surfaces must be below freezing for you to have all that frost built up.

Certainly sounds like something else is holding you back, and I too would suspect the mobo. You prolly would get some more MHz by cooling the NB. I don't know if you remember the pic I showd of my ram cooler, but I also ran it with a 50W pelt on the NB on an epox 8K7A, and managed another 5 MHz or so...it was fun, but not what I was hoping to achieve...I was trying to get 200MHz FSB...

To all the armchair overclockers:

Your childish remarks are not even close to constructive criticism. If you want to show how smart you are, then why don't you build something better. People don't come here to be told that their stuff is crap...they can get that on other site's forum's...the same forum's that many of us have left to come here
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Unread 05-17-2002, 05:07 PM   #38
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I for one think it is one of the coolest (no pun intended) projects I've ever seen.

Rock on man,

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Unread 05-18-2002, 12:17 AM   #39
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Dang, who cares if it's pretty much useless? it looks ghetto enough for it not to even matter
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Unread 05-18-2002, 01:02 AM   #40
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That is the coolest looking thing I've seen....

But damn, you could have just bought a chiller unit for the amount I'm sure you spend on all those rads and fans....

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Unread 05-18-2002, 05:36 AM   #41
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Webmasta, most of the rads were free from a guy I know. A chiller would cost more than what I have spent, plus I dont think it will work as well. My Athlon XP 1600+ AGOGA does 2136 mhz max overclock, and 2079 mhz stable running prime 95. Thats at 2.18v, cooled by 2 x 172 watt peltiers running at 22v each. It gives me a load temperature of 21C, at 31C ambient, 34C water. That beats a Vapochill at least. And I will admit that my radiator setup is overkill, 5 radiators ,3 pumps and 7 fans (2 recycling loops) just cooling one CPU, but I had the space and radiators to spare so why not? I reached the point where the water would not drop below 3C above intake air.
Now the additional setup brought me to 6 radiators, 4 pumps and 9 fans. The GPU cooling is on a different loop to make things easier for me. Well I wish some memory makers or experts were here to answer the question of whether chilling ram would give benefits similar to chilling CPU, because I can't tell when my bottleneck is something else. And figuring that, I went to remove my ram cooling from the loop so that my GPU pelt will benefit from improved flow and cooler water. I then went onto to AS epoxy ramsinks to my ram. I guess I should have just left it the way it was since it looked cooler and at least my ram worked. After AS epoxying the ramsinks, my ram wouldnt work any more. I did coat nail varnish over almost very part especially the pins, but I guess somewhere its shorted out (AS is conductive, been proven many occasions). So I removed the ramsinks, cleaned it up and everything, but it still wouldn't work. So I stuck the stickers back on, and RMAed it. Would have to wait about a week for its return, hopefully it doesn't get rejected.
Overall, I'm still left with the impression that ram chilling would yield benefits, but that question still cannot be answered. I mean those guys with low ambient temps usually get higher overclocks from their rams, so temps do matter. I think I'll just stick with this mobo for a little while, I've only used it for around 2 months +.
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Unread 05-18-2002, 07:52 AM   #42
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Very impressive... looks like your building a cyborg on the table.
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Unread 05-18-2002, 08:21 PM   #43
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glad to see nothing fried yet.

you guys may feel that my criticism before was not constructive but i disagree. having torched enough parts myself, and having had enough ideas prove to be utterly worthless(as i STILL maintain this to be), i feel that warning Icarus to fly near the water is sage advice. after all the sun is hot and those mid-flight repairs are a real bitch.
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Unread 05-19-2002, 10:38 AM   #44
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A chiller would cost more than what I have spent[/b]
I disagree. see this site:
http://www.overclex.net/content.php3...D43%26page%3D1

(Well actually, he uses an 80W Pelt, so maybe that is too expensive...!)
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I don't know.... I'm glad you didn't pay for those radiators atleast.

I will say it is a good job, and good setup.

You obviously have the room yes, but man... having all that there would irritate my g/f to no end, and she'd make me remove it

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I disagree. see this site:
http://www.overclex.net/content.php3...D43%26page%3D1

(Well actually, he uses an 80W Pelt, so maybe that is too expensive...!)
the amount of heat he is putting off would very quickly overpower that pelt, hes got 2 172watters wich is like over 300watts plus the cpu wich is prob around 150watts so thats around 500 watts then the gpu and pelt another 100 almost then the ram, well who knows how much that is, i think it was a 40watt pelt on that... so thats another 50 watts probably

so thats well over 700watts there.... and an 80watt pelt wont handle 700watts.....
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the amount of heat he is putting off would very quickly overpower that pelt, hes got 2 172watters wich is like over 300watts plus the cpu wich is prob around 150watts so thats around 500 watts then the gpu and pelt another 100 almost then the ram, well who knows how much that is, i think it was a 40watt pelt on that... so thats another 50 watts probably

so thats well over 700watts there.... and an 80watt pelt wont handle 700watts.....
True, but most of the heat is dissipated by the rad. I certainly didn't mean to use a chiller INSTEAD of a rad. The chiller is just a bonus cooler.
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