? Why use an oil cooler for water ?

[Joe]

Hey DICK... err I mean BillA

I suckered NO ONE.

The Black Ice is NOT YET AVAILABLE.. so it wasn't back then either. The Stacked Plate, for 2 more weeks, is still the best radiator for its size.

So... Maybe you and all your splendid wisdom, can understand.. or read for that matter, that as I claimed above... ONCE A BETTER RADIATOR IS OUT I WILL GO WITH IT!

You don't stand on the corner preaching at people who bought a car last year do you? saying "Ohhh.. I told you.. this years car is SO much better... you ignorant people... Why didnt you all buy this years car last year???? you were suckered! "

Bill Listen VERY carefully cause I wouldn't want to speed past you on this one -

Black Ice - BRAND NEW, NOT OUT YET, BETTER THEN STACKED PLATE

Stacked Plate - AVAILABLE, and WORKS. ( just not as good as the NEW and NOT AVAILABLE radiator) you get it??!

HOW could I have hyped a radiator design that wasn't even built a month ago? ( they are available in Al. only for high end oil coolers in this design through some racing equipment shops but list at about 100$ for a all Al. one.) So.... Now, Please tell me where I said the stacked plate radiator was the best forever? I said it was the best at the time.... just that simple, just as at one point you prolly had a clue.

Damn.. I knew I should have placed money on you posting a half wit reply.

[Joe]

You by chance related to Cliff Clavin from cheers?

( I cant take credit for that, a bud on ICQ let me know that who you reminded him of, so I had to post it as it made such good sense )


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C-ya
Joe - Owner/Editor www.ProCooling.com
Where the Completely Addicted Come to Cool Off

Somebody set up us the bomb.

[This message has been edited by Joe (edited 02-26-2001).]

[phreenet]

2 Cents: OK childern must we be reminded that this is nothing more than a hobby, a Fascination to overclock our computer while keeping the temps low. We aren't building hyperspace quantum wave generator like in homeworld and we aren't building a probe to mars. SO WHO CARES, its all up to people doing what they want to do, its called Individualism. I use a 4x4 stacked plate MOFO ok, I dont need something that cost an arm and a leg. It works..period..and you cant say that we are uninformed. We are informed that these radiators were built for gas operated vehicles. So its not up to the companys who make stacked plate transmission coolers or heater cores to post technical data about using them in computers. That sucked damnit

[Rich W]

Is that 4x4 measuring inches or centimeters? Maybe we are building MArs probes? Heh.

But really.. it doesn't matter what it was designed for, as long as the radiator works.. great. I've personally never used these radiators you guys are using a lot of now.. I used a transmission cooler once, and it sucked... a lot. I burned up atleast one good peltier... prolly two. I now use a large air conditioner condensor coil.... these seem to work the best. It keeps my water less than 1 degree above ambient, with 3 84 watt peltiers. I'm going to be sticking to this one...

The only prob is that it's pretty big... but it I wanted to, I could bolt it to the side of my case.

Rich W.

[UnaClocker]

I love my big momma, she rulez! Big Momma rocks! heh.. Just had to add my 2 cents..

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Overclock till it goes BOOM!
Watercooler extraordinaire!

[Freakyfrank]

if my good old jy-rad isn't capable enough..
i just go out and buy a second one..
WHO CARES? that's 4 beers less in the weekend..

but i've seen some big oil radiators in some crashed turbo-charged cars

that'll be my next victim.. hehe

[phreenet]

Screw water and cooling. for pratical reasons lets just keep our computers off all the time. that way we can take off the HSF or Block and look at all that is Intel or AMD. Anyone else support this idea? We can do this until someone properly informs us on when we can turn them back on and what to do about heat. you know us uninformed peoples are about brain dead as a blade of grass. when will we relize that bill is an omnipotent being and his words should not only be listened to but also taken into serious consideration.

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Blah Blah Blah
Overclocked Dual PIII 933
sitting on a VP6 mobo featuring liquid intercooling.
AIM[SN]: PhreeNET

[Erik Johansson]

Originally posted by BillA:
Joe,
Are your ignorant pronouncements any better reading 1 month later ?

Are you going to appologize to those that you helped sucker into buying a poor performing radiator ?

Or just tell them to limit themselves to 30W non TEC applications ?

Because it WAS perfectly OBVIOUS.
Except of course to sales people for 4in stacked plate oil coolers.
Or to those unable to objectively evaluate products made or sold by their friends.

A "technical" site is only as good as the accuracy of the technical advice proffered.

Let´s just say this. I´ve borrowed two of those 4inch radiators and they kick ass!! They can easily handle 150W heatload.

I also got an 11x5-1/2 nich version of the same type and it kept my water at a maximum of 2c above ambient temp with 170W heatload (120W tec @ 14.7V and Celeron 667@1050, 2.0V) using dual Sunon 84CFM 120mm fans.

These stacked plate radiators ARE extremely good and any who says they´re not simply haven´t tried them in a computer watercooler or isn´t satisfied with the performance that can be had using radiators.

/Erik

[Flash]

My first post on this board ... might as well jump into the fray, eh?

Frankly I don't see what Bill said to get everybody's panties in a wad. It looks to me like he's saying, "why not actually *test*, and *compare* these units before you endorse them. And if you choose not to, don't get bent out of shape when someone calls you on it." Wow, that is a radical thought. I can tell you as someone relatively new to water cooling that the paucity of reliable information is damned frustrating. I mean, I'm looking at the DD cooling cube, and then I see the Aquacoil cube, and I say to myself, "self, surely one of these tech sites has compared these two extreemely similar products to see which performs better." But this is not the case, and as Bill points out, there are almost no worthwhile, head-to-head tests of other radiators. You want to read 100 comparisons of the same goddamned heatsinks, you're in luck, but if you're into water cooling you get very little help. And it's not just restricted to radiators. There are few decent comparisons of water blocks or pumps, either.

So, while I always greet comments such as, "my BIG MOMMA rocks!!!" with gentle applause, it would be nice have some confirmation.

[redleader]

This topic died and was buried 5 months ago. No need to revive it.

Welcome, Flash.

[Flash]

Didn't mean to open old wounds, but Erik's post brought the topic to the top of the list.

[Erik Johansson]

Originally posted by Flash:
Didn't mean to open old wounds, but Erik's post brought the topic to the top of the list.

Yep i´m sorry... i was browsing the forum and didn´t see that it was such an old topic.

/Erik