The Anti corrosive question revisited

[ndtinker]

So it's green! Or at least the bottle... Cool. I'm heading to O'Reilley's soon for some battery water for my WC system (It's better than Aquafina bottled water, right?) and hopefully they'll have some Hyperlube. Thanks!

[siavash_s_s]

hey, what about bromine water? that stuff in a very. very very dilute form gave me head spins... about .02 moles in 1 litre of solution to be accurate. that stuff would kill an oxe if it got close enough.. im not too sure on its effect on metals though, but when i go back to lab classes ill check it out. i think 1 drop in a 1 litre system will kill anything and everything
though i may be wrong, it was a while ago i used it.

anyway as a word of warning DO NOT OPEN A JAR OF UNDILLUTED BROMINE UNLESS YOUR IN A VENTILATION CUPBOARD
1 whiff and itll kill you lol

[Waterbug]

Now, i posted this link in the OC forums, it has some interesting info about glycol and oxidation, they promote their onw stuff but it´s interesting reading thou, you find their articles under "helpfull articles" Some other intersting thing is their own product called "Coolflow IG" a Mono ethylene glycol with anticorrosion, scale and algae inhibitors. Maybe some of you from the UK could find this stuff and try it out.
So far i havent seen any glycol brands that states that they have scale and algae inhibitors. Maybe those articles are some explenation to why glycols works for some people and not for others?

Link : Hydratech Chemicals

[Blackeagle]

Does anyone have a link to where you can buy Hy-per Lube Super coolant?

I checked out the one link above, but it's not for sale there. Also tried Napa on line, also no luck.

Thanks

[Gooserider]

I haven't actually tried mailordering the stuff, but the link that I posted a couple of messages above seemed to say that Hyperlube had a mail order setup. It certainly had 'add to shopping cart' type buttons and the like. I just tried the 'store links though, and get 404 errors so there may be something strange going on.

Gooserider

[Stiffler]

How long does it take for the Water Wetter to start to leave the deposits?

[rocketmanx]

Has nyone bothered testing Swiftech HydrX?
I've been using the same mixture (one bottle HydrX to one gallon of distilled water) for about 6 months and buildup in the blocks and container have been zero. The container is a vented glass jar that sits in my garage by a window. I've not had any growth of any kind in the mixture I have left and it's exposed to air and sunlight. The solution is still crystal clear and it doesn't foam either. Not sure how much extra cooling HydrX gives but it sounds like there's more problems with foaming and algae/bacteria growth.
The WW foaming sounds like some other issue. I've used it for years in race cars, which should create much more agitation than a water cooling system, and have never seen it foam. Sounds like too much WW to me.

[Stiffler]

Originally Posted by rocketmanx

Has nyone bothered testing Swiftech HydrX?
I've been using the same mixture (one bottle HydrX to one gallon of distilled water) for about 6 months and buildup in the blocks and container have been zero. The container is a vented glass jar that sits in my garage by a window. I've not had any growth of any kind in the mixture I have left and it's exposed to air and sunlight. The solution is still crystal clear and it doesn't foam either. Not sure how much extra cooling HydrX gives but it sounds like there's more problems with foaming and algae/bacteria growth.

This is what I'm planning on using as well..

[xgman]

Originally Posted by Gooserider

I haven't actually tried mailordering the stuff, but the link that I posted a couple of messages above seemed to say that Hyperlube had a mail order setup. It certainly had 'add to shopping cart' type buttons and the like. I just tried the 'store links though, and get 404 errors so there may be something strange going on.

Gooserider

They will send it to you if you call them and Pep Boys will carry it in March. They say it doesn't smell as bad as Water Wetter and doesn't stain like WW. Worth a try. Their # is 1-888-275-0015

[Ewout_vB]

Originally Posted by xgman

They will send it to you if you call them and Pep Boys will carry it in March. They say it doesn't smell as bad as Water Wetter and doesn't stain like WW. Worth a try. Their # is 1-888-275-0015

I didnt read any of this topic, but wouldn't Zerex G-05 work as an anti corrosive?

According to Valvoline and some thing I saw on TV on TLC they use it on high performance cars because of the fact it transfers heat so well, lubricates any sealings, and stops corrosion.

[wicka]

I think I'm gonna try out HydrX, Pep Boys is the only real close auto parts store around here and like you said, they won't carry Hyperlube until March well wait a sec, I just looked around and HydrX is UV green; I plan to go red in my system, so that won't work. I also found WaterChill Anti-Algae Fluid & Innovatek innovaProtect Fluid, I wonder how they will work; the Innovatek only protects against corrosion thought, and the WaterChill only against algae and bacteria. Mixing, anyone ? I don't have the $21 .

[wicka]

No one else has any opinions?

[Gooserider]

Ewout_vB:
I didnt read any of this topic, but wouldn't Zerex G-05 work as an anti corrosive?

According to Valvoline and some thing I saw on TV on TLC they use it on high performance cars because of the fact it transfers heat so well, lubricates any sealings, and stops corrosion.

If you believe any adds that you see on TV, I have this great NYC bridge for sale....

It is highly unlikely that Zerex offers anything significantly different from any other decent quality antifreeze intended for the same application. Even more important is to consider the claims of the advert in light of the

Glycol coolant is WORSE at transferring heat than plain water, but it boils at a higher temperature and freezes at a lower temp - neither is helpful in a WC system unless you're doing something radical.

Seal lubricant is fairly standard in anti-freezes, and is useful in an automotive system with a mechanical direct drive waterpump. In a standard WC system, it's useless as our mag drive pumps don't have any seals to lube.

It is true that anti-corrosives are probably a part of the Zerex blend, but you will find them in ANY good anti-freeze, so there is no special reason to prefer Zerex on that account.

In short there may be reasons to put glycol antifreeze in your WC system, but they aren't specific to any particular brand of coolant.

Gooserider

[Ricey]

Checkers, Schucks, and Kragen auto parts stores (same company) usually carry hyperlube. I got mine for about 8-10 bucks at Checkers.

[xgman]

I wonder if anyone has tried the humidifier additive that is used to prevent algae etc. Whenever I add it to my decorative fountain, the water flow through the submersible pump increases dramatically for a while, but it does seem to genereate a fair amount of suds in an open fountain environment. I don't know how it would do in a closed loop.

[xgman]

Originally Posted by Ricey

Checkers, Schucks, and Kragen auto parts stores (same company) usually carry hyperlube. I got mine for about 8-10 bucks at Checkers.

Pep Boys will carry it in March. I got mine directly form the manufacturer in the mean time.

[@/2ct!<]

Originally Posted by neoacid

I haven't been able to find a sanitzer of the type that airspirit mentioned yet. I was wondering....Airspirit recommended using a lysol + pinesol solution to clean the system of buildup and organic growth. Would it be okay to add this instead of the sanitizer to the coolant mixture i use? Or would it damage and corrode the pieces inside my system in the long term? or react in some bad way with the other chemicals? or does it loose its biocide properties?

Sorry Airspirit, cant see if you replied to this and have similar question, why not use lysol instead of spa sanitizer etc, it seemed fine for your bacteria killer. I know that Pinesol does not dissolve in water so obviously not a great choice, but Lysol seemed fine from you *Sol remarks...

[boomer235]

Originally Posted by @/2ct!<

Sorry Airspirit, cant see if you replied to this and have similar question, why not use lysol instead of spa sanitizer etc, it seemed fine for your bacteria killer. I know that Pinesol does not dissolve in water so obviously not a great choice, but Lysol seemed fine from you *Sol remarks...

I don't think the *Sol will work well running 100% of the time. I have heard of 1 or 2 accounts of the solution corroding certain plastics.. or silicoln over and extended period.
I have used the humidifier sanitizer in small amounts for 8 months (or more) with no ill effect with the same water (have not bled the system in 8 months). My friend has used Hyperlube and the humidifier sanitizer for a couple months with no ill effect and he uses mixed metals.
I have not looked into the non bromide non cloride spa sanitizer so I cannot coment. I will say that hyperlube will not be found at a spa store. What you want to ask for at a Spa supplier is non bromide non cloride spa sanitizer. Maybe Air Spirit will have more to say on this.