Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

[Remmington.Smit]

I will freely admit I am stupid to begin with but I will try to explain the condition by saying that I haven't slept in about 36 hours.

I wrote an NTFS signature on my Snap 1000 primary drive and now all it will do is blink the end lights at me.

Is there anywhere I can find an image of a boot drive for this beast so that I can reimage and revive it?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

[blue68f100]

End light being "DISK"

There are 2 different models of the 1000. You said pri drive ? Does it have 2 drives or just one?

Early model 1000 (v1) stored the os in flashram. V2 uses a std boot rom bios. They use different image files.

If its a version 1, you should be able to login to the admin page as before.

[Remmington.Smit]

This started out with one 30G drive but I was experimenting with adding a secondary 80G drive. That worked fine.

Then I decided to plug the 30G drive into a Firewire enclosure to try and read the filestructure on my WinXP box.....

Label inside says FAD-00018 REV. B.

Device had been upgraded to 4.0.830 before I started experimenting.

[blue68f100]

The snap uses a modified XFS unix file system. Windows can not read nor any others for that matter. DD from the knoppix CD can read and copy drive sectors.

[Remmington.Smit]

Hmmmm, on further poking around it may actually be an 1100 rather than a 1000.

Drop in the original or a new drive and it ends up going to a state where the system and drive lights are blinking with the drive light blinking twice for each time the system light blinks.

Is there any way to use the .sup files from the upgrade software to reimage the drives?

[re3dyb0y]

You can do it from the web interface

/or by using assist

[blue68f100]

Remington,

There is 1 state, the 1x00's get locked in, when making it act like a 2000. The light seq is 1 blink with SYS+DISK then 2 blink with disk. No one have been able to break the loop. The light seq indicates that it is waiting for IP address, via default NetBaue. I have one here in that same state. I don't have an old old server running that protocol.

[Tom S]

Does Anyone have an image for a snap server 1100. I have tried everywhere. so far this forum has provided the most information but I don't know where to get an image. i have 4 snap servers 1100 for different clients and all of them are DEAD. Thanks for using great maxtor hard drives.....

Someone please please please help

[blue68f100]

Loosing 5 all at the same time is a little odd, You would at least expect a little warning.
I don't like maxtor drive either, they have allways been noisey, and run hot. I use either Seagates (5 yr warranty) or Hitachi drives. If you have any 2200 around the image from it will work.

[re3dyb0y]

Maxtor drives are only good if they are SCSI ones!

[shadowman]

I have had more trouble with Maxtor drives than any of the other brands. Upon opening up a crashed Maxtor drive, I was suprised they were mostly made of plastic parts for the spindle assembly. Then I opened up a Western Digital and they use mostly metal. I guess you get what you pay for.

RULE OF THUMB FOR ME.....NEVER BUILD A FILE SERVER WITH A MAXTOR BEING YOUR WEAKEST LINK!

SM

[Tom S]

Well I have the image. THANKS PAL.
now it's time to play.
BTW I had success before copying this drvie with HDClone. free edition.
took 24 hours at least but it worked to bad I didn't make an image file for it...

[blue68f100]

I don't know what it was reading that took 24 hrs. On Snap servers you only need the first 25 meg, this is where the boot tracks lay (os). Now if you are talking about a raid 5 build, 24 hr is common.

[Tom S]

Nah it was a regular drive. 250 GB but the free version of clone cd is very slow
and it copied the entire drive. I guess i could have been smart about it and told it to only copy the first partition but I really didn't know what to copy. so when in doubt

BTW i have since used digital dolly and upgraded the OS. Wow it worked awesome. THANKS SO MUCH..... this has made my month...

[Tom S]

Was the Last os for the 1100 5.X?
I have 4.086 but for some reason I thought there was one after that.

[blue68f100]

4.0.860 is the latest I know of. I would not expect any more since Adaptec bought them.

All of the newer ones are using the Guardian OS.

Havn't checked to see if they have a new one. Each version uses a little more ram than the previous. It's not always a good idea to be upgrading just to be upgrading. Some of the 2000's (v1, simms) is a good example of that.

[nmb]

Originally Posted by blue68f100

4.0.860 is the latest I know of. I would not expect any more since Adaptec bought them.

All of the newer ones are using the Guardian OS.

Havn't checked to see if they have a new one. Each version uses a little more ram than the previous. It's not always a good idea to be upgrading just to be upgrading. Some of the 2000's (v1, simms) is a good example of that.

hello. I just noticed that you have a 2200 with upgraded drives.

on if my 2200 just had mechanical problems on one drive and bad sectors on the other. all data is lost. Just bought two new seagate 120GB drives but my 2200 does not recognize them!

any help is appreciated!

[re3dyb0y]

Originally Posted by nmb

hello. I just noticed that you have a 2200 with upgraded drives.

on if my 2200 just had mechanical problems on one drive and bad sectors on the other. all data is lost. Just bought two new seagate 120GB drives but my 2200 does not recognize them!

any help is appreciated!

Im presuming you have 2 dead drives, and with either in master, you cannot boot the unit?

If so, you need to contact me or david to obtain the tools to set up a new drive and get it bootable again

[re3dyb0y]

Originally Posted by blue68f100

4.0.860 is the latest I know of. I would not expect any more since Adaptec bought them.

All of the newer ones are using the Guardian OS.

Havn't checked to see if they have a new one. Each version uses a little more ram than the previous. It's not always a good idea to be upgrading just to be upgrading. Some of the 2000's (v1, simms) is a good example of that.

Sounds about right

Over a year since a OS v4 update, i think they are just keeping it for the smaller units, and haven't had to make any changes so haven't done so.

The guardian seems to be coming into main use!

[nmb]

Originally Posted by re3dyb0y

Im presuming you have 2 dead drives, and with either in master, you cannot boot the unit?

If so, you need to contact me or david to obtain the tools to setup a new drive and get it bootable again

I can boot the unit with the drive with the bad sectors. but stays forever on the 5% checking always on the same sector.

I'm sending you an email

[re3dyb0y]

Yeah, its dead then

However. But if you can get into the debug panel, you may be able to use it to make a new drive

Try sticking the one that works in primary, and the new one in secondary

See if it formats it and such

[blue68f100]

If you got one that is bootable, just copy the boot tracks with dd. Don't ever worry about formating. With the drive failing, it will self destruct more every time you start it up.

When I get any computer with a failing drive. I make a ghost set of the drive. This way I can extract all data that is readable without degrading the drive any more. Time is of the essence. Particulary if its the meda failing. Every time you start it up you dammage it more. All that has to happen is to have the heads hangs on the bad section and damage the heads, then your sol. But since ghost has problem with the snap format, use dd to copy the first 25 meg, the boot section with OS.

[turbops]

Fist wanted to start off stating this is a great site. Lots of usefull information.

"I have read this forum SEVERAL times but must be missing something."

I have the following i am trying to upgrade.

Model: Snap 1000
Software: 3.4.803
Hardware: 3.1.2
BIOS: 2.1.3.66



I have susfully upgraded my Snap1000 Using DOLLY as my tool to a WD 80-gig HD. It was a snap. Here is where im running into trouble. I have gotten greedy and want more. I have several 120-gig drives.

Drive #1. Segate Barracuda 120-GIG
Trouble. SNAP now only sees the drive as a 40-gig.

Drive#2. WD 120-gig Caviar.
Trouble. Snap does not even see the drive.

Drive#3. Same as above but pulled directly out of box.

Do i need to upgrade to OS V4.0? If so where can i obtain a copy?

I am a newbe to the site so please dont draw to much blood. Some bashing is expected.

[nmb]

Originally Posted by blue68f100

If you got one that is bootable, just copy the boot tracks with dd. Don't ever worry about formating. With the drive failing, it will self destruct more every time you start it up.

When I get any computer with a failing drive. I make a ghost set of the drive. This way I can extract all data that is readable without degrading the drive any more. Time is of the essence. Particulary if its the meda failing. Every time you start it up you dammage it more. All that has to happen is to have the heads hangs on the bad section and damage the heads, then your sol. But since ghost has problem with the snap format, use dd to copy the first 25 meg, the boot section with OS.

can you help me with the dd comand? I'm using a mac os x laptop so dd is part of the system. if necessary I can get hold of a pc desktop.

thank you so much for your help.

[re3dyb0y]

Try http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php..._To_HD_with_DD

I dont know if you can do it with a Mac

The Most common way is on a PC with a knoppix bootable CD