Go Back   Pro/Forums > ProCooling Technical Discussions > Snap Server / NAS / Storage Technical Goodies
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat

Snap Server / NAS / Storage Technical Goodies The Home for Snap Server Hacking, Storage and NAS info. And NAS / Snap Classifides

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 08-19-2006, 10:44 AM   #1226
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

The 1 2 blink means it is not finding the OS version that it's like. Need to load a different version of the OS. If every thing works correctly you want get the 1 - 2 leds. You will get a solid disk light for a while. And then the sys will have a heart beat. You should be able to login after 5-10 minutes.

There were 2 different version of the 1x00, one for some reason will use the OS from a 2200, and other need the older 1000. Don't know why, well yes I do. There was a period where snap was changing hardware configuration.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2006, 02:14 PM   #1227
harddisque
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 10
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

I've tried the snap1000.rar without success and this time tried snap2200.rar installed with Knoppix.

The drive is formatted NTFS before loading either one. Does it need to be FAT or FAT 32? Or HTFS formatted in Knoppix?

Thanks for the help!

John
harddisque is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2006, 06:49 PM   #1228
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

No, it doesn't need to be formated before writing the boot tracks with dd. Sometimes it helps to do a quick format of the MBR.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2006, 08:00 PM   #1229
harddisque
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 10
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

So following the procedure to put either one of the Snap1000 or Snap2200.rar files does not require the disk to be formatted?

Digital Dolly...will it create boot tracks? Do I use it first, create the boot track then format the MBR, then use knoppix to get the snap1000 or 2200.rar image on the disk? and the disk can be unformatted?

I feel like I'm missing a step somewhere....

Sorry to be a pain...

Regards,

John
harddisque is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2006, 08:50 PM   #1230
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Follow the instruction in the wiki section of the forum. DD will write the mbr and os to the hd. If the hd had some flavor of unix/linux you should wipe the mbr table prior to writing the image.

Read the instruction posted in the wiki section. Trust me it works.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2006, 09:22 PM   #1231
harddisque
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 10
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

When you are refering to DD, would that be the line:

type "dd if=/mnt/snap##00.bin of=/dev/hdb

Or is DD the seperate download of Digital Dolly?

I couldn't get knoppix to mount an unformatted drive, but it will with a new MBR?

Sorry, I'm a Windows guy just getting in Linux.
harddisque is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2006, 09:42 PM   #1232
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Quote:
dd if=/mnt/snap##00.bin of=/dev/hdb
If you ran this cmd with no errors you are ready to install the drive.

The nomencleture below will help explain the cmd line.
if = input file or device (/mnt/snap##00.bin)
of = output file or device (/dev/hdb = hd on ide0 slave)

You are right, you can not mount a drive without a mbr.

dd = digital dolly. There is also a live cd version out (download.com or majorgeeks.com)
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-20-2006, 12:15 PM   #1233
harddisque
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 10
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Trying Snap1000.rar...command ran in Linux..put drive back in server..it's back inthe 1 +2 mode again

does the snap1000.rar file need anything done to it? renamed? unconpressed?

still can't get past this hump
harddisque is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-20-2006, 12:45 PM   #1234
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

The ".rar" is a file compression type. You will need WinRAR or v10 WinZip to decompress the file. It's just an updated "zip" file.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-30-2006, 08:47 PM   #1235
jckohler
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 5
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Great Thread!!

I have a Dell 705N. Software 3.4.790, Hardware 2.2.1, server# 554645, BIOS 2.4.437


I had a drive failure about a year ago, and replaced the 40gb drives with 80 gb drives (one at a time). I still only have 120 Gb in RAID 5, but never worried about it, but now I'm running out of space. I assume I have to do 'co de format 10000 /reinit' to get it to recognize the larger drives. Should I first convert my RAID5 to JBOD? Do I have to format each drive, or will the statement above do it for all 4?

I also need to have my server work with a Windows 2003 Server AD. I understand I need 4.0.830 and then 4.0.860 for that. Where can I get these?

I've read the tips on getting it to be a generic and accept the Snap firmwares.

Currently I only have 64 Mb of memory, but I will upgrade that to 256 Mb.
jckohler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-30-2006, 08:59 PM   #1236
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Back-up data if you want it.

Yes to JBOD
10000, 10008, 10010, 10018 for all drive id "co de format xxxxx /reinit"

To load the Snap OS you will need to change a bios flag. then do the upgrade.

There is a work around for MS AD support posted in the wiki section.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-30-2006, 10:07 PM   #1237
jckohler
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 5
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Thanks for drive-ID's. I'm sure they were somewhere in the past 50 pages of this thread.

I read about the bios flag for the upgrade, but I'm unclear where I can find the firmware itself.

I did read the Wiki section on "Snap OS v3 with Active Directory" but that seems specific to the case of having a Unix machine join the AD and then channeling it through an NFS mount. I was hoping to specify AD users directly from the Snap.

Thanks,

Christian
jckohler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 01:59 AM   #1238
Phoenix32
Thermophile
 
Phoenix32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yakima, WA
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Then IMHO you are going to need SNAP OS v4.0.860... Don't forget, that 705 is basicly a 4100 which means 137GB limit per drive.
Phoenix32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 07:36 AM   #1239
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

You may need to remove all drives execpt drive 1 to do the reinit. The size is controlled off drive 1.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 10:48 AM   #1240
jckohler
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 5
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Thanks for the suggestion about only formatting drive 1. The question remains how I get v4.0.860? I looked at the Adaptec site, but could only find S2S.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Christian
jckohler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 12:49 PM   #1241
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

There is a 3.4.807 that is free. But dont know what was added or fixed from the 805 version. The 805 version was the 1st to support large disk, which doesn't apply in your case.

3.4.803 supported AD 2000.
So it is possiable that AD 2003 was added to the 807 version. No one has tested to confirm either way.

Snap would not acknowledge that 3.4.805 even existed. They wanted to sell v4 upgrades. Adaptec has released 3.4.807 which was unknow till 6 months ago. Have no info on what was added or changed.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 01:10 PM   #1242
jckohler
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 5
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

I know there is no benefit for me with large drives (4100), but 3.4.790 had a bug in the web interface that causes it to hang whenever we do a vulnerability (Nessus) scan.

I tried registering my product on the Adaptec site, but since my 705N is old, I don't get any support. Are there other ways to get the free 3.4.807?

How much do I have to pay Adaptec to get 4.0.860?

Thanks so much for all your help,

Christian
jckohler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 02:38 PM   #1243
jontz
Cooling Savant
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: South Bend, IN
Posts: 385
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

OK, first things first: The 4100 doesn't do JBOD, so you might have some problems converting your array to JBOD unless the 705 is different and does support the function. If it doesn't (which I suspect is the case) and you want larger drives, all you need to do is backup your data on the current array, pull all the drives, install new, bigger drives (if you want to install 120 GB drives, if not, re-init them as blue said leaving drive one in place), set up your new array, and then copy all the data back.

I would upgrade the OS after you have backed up all your data and before you install your new drives (or re-init your old ones), if you are still planning on upgrading the OS. Just in case something goes horribly, horribly wrong.
__________________
Snap Server 4100, 4x120GB Seagate Drives, RAID 5, version 3.4.803
jontz is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-31-2006, 03:11 PM   #1244
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jckohler
I know there is no benefit for me with large drives (4100), but 3.4.790 had a bug in the web interface that causes it to hang whenever we do a vulnerability (Nessus) scan.

I tried registering my product on the Adaptec site, but since my 705N is old, I don't get any support. Are there other ways to get the free 3.4.807?

How much do I have to pay Adaptec to get 4.0.860?

Thanks so much for all your help,

Christian
You don't get any phone support. There is a link at the bottom for email support.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-06-2006, 05:36 PM   #1245
jckohler
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 5
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

I'm not having any luck getting even e-mail support. The link I find on the Adaptec site is:
"ASK Us, support via email is available. Your TSID number will be required."

When I submit my server# I get the following message:
The information you have entered indicates that your product is beyond its complimentary support period. Products beyond the complimentary support period are supported on a best effort basis via telephone for a fee.

Any chance somebody could provide me with something > 3.4.790 ?

I just had my server crash again, when we did a Nessus scan of it.

This is what Nessus reports:
"We could crash the Savant web server by sending an invalid GET HTTP request with a negative Content-Length field."

This is what shows up in my logs on the Dell 705N :
PANIC : General Protection Fault (#13) at $0010B48F
EAX=07FFFFFF EBX=00000000 ECX=03F9A301 EDX=0000006E
ESP=00057EF8 EBP=00057F18 ESI=00000000 EDI=00000000

Thanks,

Christian
jckohler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-07-2006, 01:19 PM   #1246
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

I do not know if the latest OS will pass that test, either. Most all of these units are used for internal storage, so are not exposed to all of the bad stuff.
V3 was released in 2002?
v4 was 1st released in 2003?
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-19-2006, 11:55 AM   #1247
gemineyes
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: California
Posts: 1
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

-----------------
Hi,

I have a 4100 snap server running OS v3.4.803. I just upgraded to AD 2003 and I need to get this snap server to read the users in AD. I can't rebuild the server because it has working files on it.

I read that I need to upgrade to OS v4, but I don't have the OS upgrade file(s). Can anyone help me with this? It would greatly appreciated.

My email is below if you want to contact me.

Thanks!

dllorin@hotmail.com
-----------------
gemineyes is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-25-2006, 01:25 PM   #1248
skorpio
Cooling Neophyte
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: K-Town
Posts: 2
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Hi,

I just upgraded my Snap Server 1000 with an 80GB HD. Everything worked just fine - thanks to this site!
Just some questions concerning the fan:
- I recognized that the air flows from the back of the case towards the front. Is that correct or have i messed it up during assembly?
- The fan is rather noisy - has anyone replaced that thing with a more silent or efficient device?
- Any possibility to monitor the temperature in the Server? The "new" HD obviously produces more heat than the original one and I just want to be sure it doesn't go up in flames ;-)

Best regards,
R.
skorpio is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-25-2006, 02:29 PM   #1249
Hallis
Cooling Savant
 
Hallis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Dallas, Tx
Posts: 469
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

You'd have to use an external temp probe to monitor the HDD temp. The fan i believe is supposed to draw air into the unit but im not sure about that one. People have replaced the fans. Just find the dimmensions, i BELIEVE they are 40x40mm and get another fan from Fry's or someplace like that.

Shane
Hallis is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-21-2006, 11:52 AM   #1250
blue68f100
Thermophile
 
blue68f100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,135
Default Re: Hack a Snap Sever 1000?

Does any one read this any more ????

Can't let the best thread die.

It is loaded with tons of good info. The only problem is that it's a novel.
__________________
1 Snap 4500 - 1.0T (4 x 250gig WD2500SB RE), Raid5,
1 Snap 4500 - 1.6T (4 x 400gig Seagates), Raid5,
1 Snap 4200 - 4.0T (4 x 2gig Seagates), Raid5, Using SATA converts from Andy

Link to SnapOS FAQ's http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=13820
blue68f100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(C) 2005 ProCooling.com
If we in some way offend you, insult you or your people, screw your mom, beat up your dad, or poop on your porch... we're sorry... we were probably really drunk...
Oh and dont steal our content bitches! Don't give us a reason to pee in your open car window this summer...