MMZ_TimeLord's System Rev 02 (Worklog)

[G33k]

*jaw drops* Some seriously impressive work there MMZ! You'll be giving Bladerunner a run for his money soon Keep up the good work!

[olv]

WOW! really nice block there, just wow.

[BladeRunner]

forum eat my post too ....... think I was only babbling though so not to worry

[MMZ_TimeLord]

Okay, I got the plates soldered on tonight. Although I think I may use the oven tomorrow to DE-solder them... I have a feeling there is a big blob of solder in one of the passages... just a hunch, but I'd rather find out now than when I try to run this in the system.



That's all for today folks...

[iakovl]

[BladeRunner]

Originally Posted by MMZ_TimeLord

Okay, I got the plates soldered on tonight. Although I think I may use the oven tomorrow to DE-solder them... I have a feeling there is a big blob of solder in one of the passages... just a hunch, but I'd rather find out now than when I try to run this in the system.



That's all for today folks...

What solder are you using? If it's plumbing solder are you adding flux? If not I'd be very surprised it that has taken or sealed fully. I use electrical solder myself because it contains a fluxed core and flows much better.

It's not easy to see from the images but, if you were to heat it up again with a "blow lamp" and add flux to the join area it may flow better and "take". If you get it nice and hot any "lumps" in channels will dissolve away as you flux the edges.

I did use the oven method to begin with but the blow lamp electric solder / additional flux works better imo.

here is what I'd expect it to look like if the solder had flowed nicely and seal joined both parts well:-

[MMZ_TimeLord]

Actually I'm using electronic solder, so, no worries there... but I'm afraid I may have put too much on one of the larger surfaces and it may have flowed into the block instead of squishing out.

I will see today when I de-solder it. I'll just put it back in the oven and when it's hot enough I'll take the blocks off and make sure.

I'll then wipe off the extra solder with a wet paper towel, brush on some rosen flux and then put them back in the oven and flow some solder around the edges.

Again, it's just me being paranoid. And remember, "When the world is out to get you, paranoia just makes good sense."

[iakovl]

u know MMZ_TimeLord i have a Q for u, what MMZ stands for in your nickname?

[MMZ_TimeLord]

Monkeys, Midgets & Zombies...

[Arcturius]

Originally Posted by MMZ_TimeLord

Monkeys, Midgets & Zombies...

??? Is that from a TV show or something? Please explain, before I hurt my head thinking about it... :shrug:

[pHaestus]

I'll take "things MMZ_Timelord has sex with" for 1000, Alex

[MMZ_TimeLord]

ROFL pHaestus,

No, actually if you do a Google search for "mmz" you will find our website. We started out over 5 years ago as a Q2:Weapons Factory clan... and have grown.

We are now over 330+ members and play things from checkers online to EQ to just chatting. We have an anual party that we like to call "Think Analog" where we just get together for a 3-4 day weekend and eat/drink/dance and generally party. NO COMPUTERS ALLOWED.

We have members in age from 2 months to 50+ and in various geographical locations throughout the world... from about 20 of the states here, Canada, Japan, Austrialia and probably some other places... I've lost track.

Last year at Think Analog 5 we had about 70 folks come from all over... Canada, New York, Texas, Oregon, Washinton, Arizona and, again... more places than I can remember.

MMZ is my extended family and all of us "Zombies" (Over 38) try and mentor the "Monkeys" (21 to 37) and "Midgets" (under 21).

Without them, I don't believe that I would have made it through my divorce as well as I did.


As to the project... I did de-solder the plates... no solder blobs, but I did find some "cold" solder joints, so I made sure the plates were properly tinned and re-soldered them.

Then I took them out to the garage to touch them up with a "Blow Lamp"

In the process I ran out of propane ... so I will have to get another tank before I can finish.

L8R all... PEACE!

[|kbn|]

Looks good. Ive done all my soldering on the stove/cooker thing (gas cooker) which works quite well. It definatly gets hot enough, btw does any one know what temp it is for copper to get red hot, becuase thats how hot it goes ( I needed to anneal some copper sheet).

[Butcher]

Depends how red - things start to go red at 500C before starting to go orangey-yellow at around 1000C.
For reference a small butane torch can melt Al (660C) so you should be able to get stuff at least that hot on a stove.

[G33k]

kbn : Just to satisfy my curiosity, would I be right in thinking annealing is used to soften a metal? If that's the case, why would you want to soften an already fairly soft (compared to say steel) metal? *senses interesting project*

[Butcher]

Yes that what annealing is - it's usually done to make bending easier.

[|kbn|]

Originally Posted by G33k

kbn : Just to satisfy my curiosity, would I be right in thinking annealing is used to soften a metal? If that's the case, why would you want to soften an already fairly soft (compared to say steel) metal? *senses interesting project*

For my hdd cooler (see the hdd thread) I needed to bend copper sheet around copper pipe and as i dont have the proper tools for doing it I need it to be as soft as possible.

When the copper went red it was sorta a darkish red and I could see it easly but my dad had to turn the light off to see it (slightly colour blind), I think I could have got it hotter but not much, the copper was in the middle of the flame.

[MadHacker]

Originally Posted by |kbn|

For my hdd cooler (see the hdd thread) I needed to bend copper sheet around copper pipe and as i dont have the proper tools for doing it I need it to be as soft as possible.

When the copper went red it was sorta a darkish red and I could see it easly but my dad had to turn the light off to see it (slightly colour blind), I think I could have got it hotter but not much, the copper was in the middle of the flame.

Now I'm curious..
have pictures of the final HDD cooler?
mebe post it in the 'Hard Drive block' thread... don't want to take over this thread

[buzzby]

Damn there arn't the words to describe how cool your stuff is. I only wish i had acess to your kind of tools and materials. The GPU cooler is very nice its a shame it takes so much copper to make them.

Really nice stuff

Buzz

[|kbn|]

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=9228 - hdd thread
no pics yet though will try to fin + pics next week

[MMZ_TimeLord]

Well, I got some of the sections cut on my case yesterday... no pictures yet... not until everything is test fit.

I got another propane tank today and finished using my "Blow Lamp" to add a bit more solder to the front block.

Once I was done, I rough cut the back block's 1/16" plate to shape with a hack saw. Then I put it on the rotary table and begain trimming the 1/16" plate all around the outside edge. I also cleaned up the curves and rounded off the mounting ear.

Here is the back block with the front one... the front has only been rough cut with a hack saw.



Here I've put the blocks together on the card for test fitting to make sure nothing warped. It appears to have come out quite straight as I didn't have any problem tightening the cap screws at all.



Here's an edge on view to show how far the blocks stick out...



Here is one last 3/4" view...



I hope to finish up the front block and drill the inlet and outlet holes and solder in the 1/2" tubes. I also need to machine in the O-Ring groove for the cross over passage.

Lastly, maybe Saturday, I'll begin polishing the assembly.

Peace!

[pippin88]

Very very nice!

[G33k]

Niiiiiiice! Bit more trimming, polishing, some clear coat and I'd say you have a SERIOUSLY sweet looking block! Congrats!

[iakovl]

Nice , so nice

[prandtl]

good work TimeLord! personnally i have never polished my blocks, too lazy, but it would be a crime not to do it to yours!!