226W tec or 320W tec

naS · 08-11-2004, 06:16 PM

Hey , imy loop will be based on self made block dual 120 fans heatercore and iwaki 30rz pump ..

the 226 wattage tec is real nice , but: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...822633261&rd=1
looks much nicer ..

i saw here not a long ago a thread talking thout thier tecs , and it was said that they preform worse then the 226W ones.. is it ture ? wich would give a better results

killernoodle · 08-11-2004, 06:44 PM

I think it actually performs better because when you turn the voltage down it uses less amps for the same cooling performance. As long as it is a 50mm then you are good to go.

JFettig · 08-11-2004, 08:06 PM

Its 320w when the hot side is at 50c, thats probably gonna be the case in some setups, but I am not sure because the heat isnt quite as cosentrated. At 20-25c(cant remember) its like 245watts. I e-mailed the guy about that.

I also posted somewhere here or at ocforums about it too with the exact info he gave me.

Jon

naS · 08-12-2004, 03:20 AM

I wont 20-25 on the hot side thats for sure , my room temp is like 29 ..
but even when using it at 20-25C , it will still outpreform the 226 no ? i dont think it will be visable but still , cant do any harm right ?

what if ill upgradde for a chiller ? at 0 c lets say it will preform worse ?

Groth · 08-12-2004, 03:34 AM

All TECs are de-rated as temperature decreases. You need more complete details of the 226 before comparing.

naS · 08-12-2004, 05:01 AM

one of DD's ...
http://dangerden.com/mall/Pelts/peltiers.asp

Groth · 08-12-2004, 07:49 AM

And just like everything else DD sells, they don't give enough information. :shrug: If it's worth it to you, e-mail DD and ask for complete specs. Or find out who makes their TECs and get the info from the manufacturer.

muffy · 08-12-2004, 09:10 PM

that 320wat tec it going to use a lot of power so look out for that at a guess it'll uses like 450 watts at full power . have a quad TEC system to gain efficiency. i dout two 120 radiators is going to be any where near good enough i have 3 and im upgarding to 7 120 radiators. they all fit in my case i might add

AngryAlpaca · 08-12-2004, 09:20 PM

Muffy, have you considered some serious phase change? It'll save time and money.

greenman100 · 08-12-2004, 09:22 PM

seven 120 mm radiators fit in your case?

pics?

muffy · 08-12-2004, 09:28 PM

it's to late now i have already so much money invested in this system i can't really change . anyway phase change is a bit simple . i like making stuff

7 i have a full tower 4 on one side 2 on the other and one on top obviously the case is modded i only have 3 at the moment but soon it'll all be good :-) it's currently ony 4 cm wider than stock

naS · 08-13-2004, 06:38 AM

thats pritty crazy man ...
i ment i have one heatercore of 2 120mm fans ...
i think i will be eought , after all , the hot side Should be at aprox 50-60C no ?

muffy · 08-14-2004, 06:20 AM

no it's not that crazy really

My last system had one 120mm radiator and a 80 mm radiator . which was trying to cool my 61.5 watt 2.53g p4 with a 172 watt tec. These radiators were unable to cool the 354 watts of heat created at 24 volts. the system kept getting hotter and hotter till the cpu got to 60 drgrees c.

i can not imagine that one 120 mm radiator will be able to cool 643 watts of heat created by a 320 watt tec . i might add that that will be pulling like 550 watts of power too

these numbers are theoretical based on the thermoelectric system calculation.

you can of course run your tec at lower voltages to save on heat and power usage

naS · 08-14-2004, 09:14 AM

its a dual 120mm fans , and and its a heatercore , thouse cool much better then rads ..

643Ws ? damn thats alot .. how did u got to thouse numbers ?

and dont forget , the hot side of the tec should be at high temps..

muffy · 08-15-2004, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naS

its a dual 120mm fans , and and its a heatercore , thouse cool much better then rads ..

643Ws ? damn thats alot .. how did u got to thouse numbers ?

and dont forget , the hot side of the tec should be at high temps..

dual fans in a push pull system dont offer much of a better performance . sure a dual heat core is better than a single like a black ice extreme but your kidding your self if you think it will twice as good

byt the way the nubers given for the 320 watt tec are based on 4x 80 watt tec cause they didn't have a single 320 so obviously the numbers will be off some what but you get the idea

08-11-2004, 06:16 PM	#1
naS Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: israel Posts: 63	226W tec or 320W tec Hey , imy loop will be based on self made block dual 120 fans heatercore and iwaki 30rz pump .. the 226 wattage tec is real nice , but: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...822633261&rd=1 looks much nicer .. i saw here not a long ago a thread talking thout thier tecs , and it was said that they preform worse then the 226W ones.. is it ture ? wich would give a better results

08-11-2004, 06:44 PM	#2
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	I think it actually performs better because when you turn the voltage down it uses less amps for the same cooling performance. As long as it is a 50mm then you are good to go. __________________ I have a nice computer.

08-12-2004, 09:22 PM	#10
greenman100 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 414	seven 120 mm radiators fit in your case? pics? __________________ "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have labored hard for." --Socrates "greenman100 = obnoxious ass hole"-gazorp

08-11-2004, 08:06 PM	#3
JFettig Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Willmar MN/Fargo ND Posts: 504	Its 320w when the hot side is at 50c, thats probably gonna be the case in some setups, but I am not sure because the heat isnt quite as cosentrated. At 20-25c(cant remember) its like 245watts. I e-mailed the guy about that. I also posted somewhere here or at ocforums about it too with the exact info he gave me. Jon

08-12-2004, 03:20 AM	#4
naS Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: israel Posts: 63	I wont 20-25 on the hot side thats for sure , my room temp is like 29 .. but even when using it at 20-25C , it will still outpreform the 226 no ? i dont think it will be visable but still , cant do any harm right ? what if ill upgradde for a chiller ? at 0 c lets say it will preform worse ?

08-12-2004, 03:34 AM	#5
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	All TECs are de-rated as temperature decreases. You need more complete details of the 226 before comparing.

08-12-2004, 05:01 AM	#6
naS Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: israel Posts: 63	one of DD's ... http://dangerden.com/mall/Pelts/peltiers.asp

08-12-2004, 07:49 AM	#7
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	And just like everything else DD sells, they don't give enough information. :shrug: If it's worth it to you, e-mail DD and ask for complete specs. Or find out who makes their TECs and get the info from the manufacturer.

08-12-2004, 09:10 PM	#8
muffy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 40	that 320wat tec it going to use a lot of power so look out for that at a guess it'll uses like 450 watts at full power . have a quad TEC system to gain efficiency. i dout two 120 radiators is going to be any where near good enough i have 3 and im upgarding to 7 120 radiators. they all fit in my case i might add

08-12-2004, 09:20 PM	#9
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	Muffy, have you considered some serious phase change? It'll save time and money.

08-12-2004, 09:28 PM	#11
muffy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 40	it's to late now i have already so much money invested in this system i can't really change . anyway phase change is a bit simple . i like making stuff 7 i have a full tower 4 on one side 2 on the other and one on top obviously the case is modded i only have 3 at the moment but soon it'll all be good :-) it's currently ony 4 cm wider than stock

08-13-2004, 06:38 AM	#12
naS Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: israel Posts: 63	thats pritty crazy man ... i ment i have one heatercore of 2 120mm fans ... i think i will be eought , after all , the hot side Should be at aprox 50-60C no ?

08-14-2004, 06:20 AM	#13
muffy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 40	no it's not that crazy really My last system had one 120mm radiator and a 80 mm radiator . which was trying to cool my 61.5 watt 2.53g p4 with a 172 watt tec. These radiators were unable to cool the 354 watts of heat created at 24 volts. the system kept getting hotter and hotter till the cpu got to 60 drgrees c. i can not imagine that one 120 mm radiator will be able to cool 643 watts of heat created by a 320 watt tec . i might add that that will be pulling like 550 watts of power too these numbers are theoretical based on the thermoelectric system calculation. you can of course run your tec at lower voltages to save on heat and power usage

08-14-2004, 09:14 AM	#14
naS Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: israel Posts: 63	its a dual 120mm fans , and and its a heatercore , thouse cool much better then rads .. 643Ws ? damn thats alot .. how did u got to thouse numbers ? and dont forget , the hot side of the tec should be at high temps..

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