Fluid additives: Asetek syringe w/ WaterWetter?...Innovatek Protect? [detailed post]

Xylo · 08-03-2005, 07:09 PM

I'm almost done putting together my water-cooling system, and it's time to get some water additives.

I'd get HydrX, but, well, I'm vain and not wild about green.

And MCT seems maybe unecessary and also a funky color (green/brown??)...FluidXP is way too $$$..

So, I'm thinking just some straight water additives (rather than complete fluid replacements) that are either clear or maybe pink to red...maybe blue...

- I'm leaning towards the Asetek anti-algae + WaterWetter:...like the Innovatek below, anti-corrosion (waterwetter works as anti-corrosion, right?), anti-algae, a tolerable pink (but stains?), not super $$$...
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-03.html
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/aswachanalwa.html

- The Innovatek Protect seems like it might be a good choice...anti-corrosion, anti-algae, colorless, not super $$$...also, I wouldn't need the "Pro" version, but don't readily see the regular version in the U.S.?...can't find it in stock anywhere in the U.S. either...nice that it mentions non-conductive, too. What's the thermal conductivty on this stuff like though?...I've heard it has odd viscosity?
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-01.html
http://www.pcextreme.com/catalog/sku/ex-liq-01.html

Anyone got any words on either of the above two products?...

Also, items listed as pH regulators -- are they listing that as meaning anti-biological?...the pH is kept at a level where algae can't form?...or something else? What about "water scaling" also?

Additionally, lots of these different products don't mention their effect on conductivity?...hm.

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Some others additives:
- Aqua Computer anti-corrision additive....no algae protection??
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/aqcoacflnonc.html

- Xtreme H20...haven't seen enough info. on it...?
http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/mer...duct_Code=9356

And also the "complete fluids" (ie., don't mix with water:
- Zalman G100...anti-corrosion, but again, no algae protection?...nice blue color...pretty pricey, though...
http://www.sharkacomputers.com/zag1blancowa.html

- CoolerMaster's fluid: http://www.sharkacomputers.com/comathcofl.html
Another possibility??...anti-algae, anti-corrosion, nice blue color (UV sensitive??), not too $$$, supposed good thermal conductivity...but what about electrical conductivity??
http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...tivity%20Fluid

- Koolance's fluid: http://www.sharkacomputers.com/kolirecopa.html
...can't find any info. on it at all?...and what color does it "illuminate under UV light"?
http://www.xoxide.com/kolicore.html
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=172

- ThermalTake BigWater...anti-algae?...and not wild about green...
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-05.html
http://www.svc.com/cl-w0044.html

- Corsair Cool...anti-algae?...and not wild about green...
http://www.svc.com/cwc100-1007.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-06.html

And a couple other anti-corrosion normally car-fluids other than WaterWetter (but none have any anti-biological protection??...and what about conductivity effects?)
- Royal Purple Ice
- Zerex (supposedly better than WW?) (BTW, what color is this stuff?)
- SuperCool http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp...PROD&ProdID=40
...better than WW and Purple Ice? Anyone used it?

And I suppose I could get an anti-algae (Asetek? is generic aquarium anti-algae ok?) and just add it with any one of the above anti-corrosion additives (designed for water-cooling or the car coolant)?

Also, what about staining clear tubing?...I hear some of the car coolant stain tubing pretty bad compared to the other products?

I try to do my homework...

...
(BTW, the URLs above were just randomly chosen from various sites, and not meant to be any endorsement or anything.)

bobkoure · 08-03-2005, 10:21 PM

The Zerex Racing Coolant (A.K.A. Valvoline Racing Coolant) is pinkish, has no biocide (except what might be there as a side effect of something else).

Edge · 08-03-2005, 10:36 PM

www.highspeedpc.com is US based and has the Innovatek Pro instock (11.99). They seem to have an Innovatek tilt to them. The liquid is under Fan/Temp/Flow control.

OT:On the same page they have the "Fan-o-matic" bay fan controller for $249: for a fan controller/bay readout, ouch. Its' software must doing things that shouldn't be brought up in mixed company for that price.

Anyway, I'm waiting to hear what the pro thoughts are on this liquid.

tong · 08-03-2005, 11:12 PM

my recomendation is Pentosin anti freeze (mainly for vw and audi vehicles) with a little anti algea from petstore. Cheap and DAMN is it effective at corrosion.

Dave · 08-04-2005, 06:34 AM

Water Wetter - BAD!

Many post on this forum explaining why.

RVWinkle · 08-04-2005, 04:26 PM

I would guess the Corsair stuff is the same as HydrX since the rest of their system is all based on Swiftech.

I used the Aqua Computer ACfluid mixed with distilled water for about 6 months and it worked fine but it turned my tubes milky white with some sort of buildup. I probably used to much. I also thought it was anti-alge though, at least the place I bought it advertized it as such. The fact is that most of this anti corrosion stuff is toxic enough to kill any crawlies.

Based on my experience, I assume that all 'clear' anti-corrosive/anti-alge fluids will end up leaving deposits on your tubes turning them white.

Right now I'm using a mix of Sierra (propelyne) antifreeze and distilled, it seems to work very well and I have a hunch it's the same thing that Swiftech uses. It's green but it was the least offensive color antifreeze I could find. I wish I could locate some blue antifreeze.

Xylo · 08-04-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Water Wetter - BAD!

Many post on this forum explaining why.

Er...ok...I'll search...thanks.

Xylo · 08-04-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tong

my recomendation is Pentosin anti freeze (mainly for vw and audi vehicles) with a little anti algea from petstore. Cheap and DAMN is it effective at corrosion.

Ok, why Pentosin over others?

And something I was wonderning about anti-algae stuff: the stuff in pet stores wants to not affect the fish you might have...in a computer system, I don't care about that...so I wonder, if someone were to designed anti-biologicals for watercooling, couldn't they make them stronger?...just curious.

tong · 08-04-2005, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xylo

Ok, why Pentosin over others?

And something I was wonderning about anti-algae stuff: the stuff in pet stores wants to not affect the fish you might have...in a computer system, I don't care about that...so I wonder, if someone were to designed anti-biologicals for watercooling, couldn't they make them stronger?...just curious.

If you read the specs on pentosin it's very anticorrosive and clean with distilled water, seems to have yeilded me the best temps in the mixture. And the anti algea stuff the pentosin has basicly been doing it for me but a little doesn;t hurt. If you;re real worried throw a lot in there, the fishtank stuff says 3 to 4 drops i beleive, so drop in 1/4 bottle lol.

08-03-2005, 07:09 PM	#1
Xylo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 14	Fluid additives: Asetek syringe w/ WaterWetter?...Innovatek Protect? [detailed post] I'm almost done putting together my water-cooling system, and it's time to get some water additives. I'd get HydrX, but, well, I'm vain and not wild about green. And MCT seems maybe unecessary and also a funky color (green/brown??)...FluidXP is way too $$$.. So, I'm thinking just some straight water additives (rather than complete fluid replacements) that are either clear or maybe pink to red...maybe blue... - I'm leaning towards the Asetek anti-algae + WaterWetter:...like the Innovatek below, anti-corrosion (waterwetter works as anti-corrosion, right?), anti-algae, a tolerable pink (but stains?), not super $$$... http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-03.html http://www.sharkacomputers.com/aswachanalwa.html - The Innovatek Protect seems like it might be a good choice...anti-corrosion, anti-algae, colorless, not super $$$...also, I wouldn't need the "Pro" version, but don't readily see the regular version in the U.S.?...can't find it in stock anywhere in the U.S. either...nice that it mentions non-conductive, too. What's the thermal conductivty on this stuff like though?...I've heard it has odd viscosity? http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-01.html http://www.pcextreme.com/catalog/sku/ex-liq-01.html Anyone got any words on either of the above two products?... Also, items listed as pH regulators -- are they listing that as meaning anti-biological?...the pH is kept at a level where algae can't form?...or something else? What about "water scaling" also? Additionally, lots of these different products don't mention their effect on conductivity?...hm. --- Some others additives: - Aqua Computer anti-corrision additive....no algae protection?? http://www.sharkacomputers.com/aqcoacflnonc.html - Xtreme H20...haven't seen enough info. on it...? http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/mer...duct_Code=9356 And also the "complete fluids" (ie., don't mix with water: - Zalman G100...anti-corrosion, but again, no algae protection?...nice blue color...pretty pricey, though... http://www.sharkacomputers.com/zag1blancowa.html - CoolerMaster's fluid: http://www.sharkacomputers.com/comathcofl.html Another possibility??...anti-algae, anti-corrosion, nice blue color (UV sensitive??), not too $$$, supposed good thermal conductivity...but what about electrical conductivity?? http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...tivity%20Fluid - Koolance's fluid: http://www.sharkacomputers.com/kolirecopa.html ...can't find any info. on it at all?...and what color does it "illuminate under UV light"? http://www.xoxide.com/kolicore.html http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=172 - ThermalTake BigWater...anti-algae?...and not wild about green... http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-05.html http://www.svc.com/cl-w0044.html - Corsair Cool...anti-algae?...and not wild about green... http://www.svc.com/cwc100-1007.html http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-liq-06.html And a couple other anti-corrosion normally car-fluids other than WaterWetter (but none have any anti-biological protection??...and what about conductivity effects?) - Royal Purple Ice - Zerex (supposedly better than WW?) (BTW, what color is this stuff?) - SuperCool http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp...PROD&ProdID=40 ...better than WW and Purple Ice? Anyone used it? And I suppose I could get an anti-algae (Asetek? is generic aquarium anti-algae ok?) and just add it with any one of the above anti-corrosion additives (designed for water-cooling or the car coolant)? Also, what about staining clear tubing?...I hear some of the car coolant stain tubing pretty bad compared to the other products? I try to do my homework... ... (BTW, the URLs above were just randomly chosen from various sites, and not meant to be any endorsement or anything.)

08-03-2005, 11:12 PM	#4
tong Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ludlow, MA Posts: 89	my recomendation is Pentosin anti freeze (mainly for vw and audi vehicles) with a little anti algea from petstore. Cheap and DAMN is it effective at corrosion. __________________ My Heatware My Ebay

08-03-2005, 10:21 PM	#2
bobkoure Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA - Boston area Posts: 798	The Zerex Racing Coolant (A.K.A. Valvoline Racing Coolant) is pinkish, has no biocide (except what might be there as a side effect of something else).

08-03-2005, 10:36 PM	#3
Edge Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: westchester, ny, usa Posts: 20	www.highspeedpc.com is US based and has the Innovatek Pro instock (11.99). They seem to have an Innovatek tilt to them. The liquid is under Fan/Temp/Flow control. OT:On the same page they have the "Fan-o-matic" bay fan controller for $249: for a fan controller/bay readout, ouch. Its' software must doing things that shouldn't be brought up in mixed company for that price. Anyway, I'm waiting to hear what the pro thoughts are on this liquid.

08-04-2005, 06:34 AM	#5
Dave Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 260	Water Wetter - BAD! Many post on this forum explaining why.

08-04-2005, 04:26 PM	#6
RVWinkle Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Richmond Posts: 13	I would guess the Corsair stuff is the same as HydrX since the rest of their system is all based on Swiftech. I used the Aqua Computer ACfluid mixed with distilled water for about 6 months and it worked fine but it turned my tubes milky white with some sort of buildup. I probably used to much. I also thought it was anti-alge though, at least the place I bought it advertized it as such. The fact is that most of this anti corrosion stuff is toxic enough to kill any crawlies. Based on my experience, I assume that all 'clear' anti-corrosive/anti-alge fluids will end up leaving deposits on your tubes turning them white. Right now I'm using a mix of Sierra (propelyne) antifreeze and distilled, it seems to work very well and I have a hunch it's the same thing that Swiftech uses. It's green but it was the least offensive color antifreeze I could find. I wish I could locate some blue antifreeze.

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