Problem getting air out of lines ...

Stepback · 03-03-2002, 10:15 AM

I was having a problem get the air out of my cooling lines. The res and pump are at the bottom of the case. When the pump was shut off the air in the res would go back up the lines to the highest point in the system. So to fix this I add a stem to the return line in the res so that when the pump is turned off the line would be under water. This is my first watercooler and I did research for 2 month before building and installing. I would like to share this with other people starting up was watercooling as I have not see anyone talk about this before. Here is a before and after pic to give y'all an ideal what I'm talking about.

Brad · 03-03-2002, 12:20 PM

yep, that should have fixed it. It is actually quite surprising just how many people will construct a res like that with the inlet and outlet on the top, when the outlet should be as low as possible

Fixittt · 03-03-2002, 12:29 PM

I have had no problems with inlets and outlets on the top. As long ad you have a fill tube at the highest pint, or a small bleed tank. There is no worries.

but yest that should have fixed it, good work.

Pretty nice drawings as well, [sarcasm] I am taking it, it is not to scale [/sarcasm] Just messin wit cha!

Stepback · 03-05-2002, 06:05 AM

There is a pic and explanation of my PUMP/RES in this thread

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...8274#post18274

Jim · 03-06-2002, 05:28 PM

Yeah! Your pump was sucking air, those pumps don't like that!

Excellent drawing BTW. What software would I need to be able to do that?

Jim

Cyco-Dude · 03-06-2002, 08:36 PM

lol, microsoft paint maybe? really, any imaging software could do that...it just takes a little time.

Brad · 03-06-2002, 10:20 PM

http://brad.procooling.com/cryo.gif

I did that in m$paint, even the 3d part

Cyco-Dude · 03-07-2002, 01:42 AM

wow, how long did that take???

Brad · 03-07-2002, 03:19 AM

an hour or so

Stepback · 04-25-2002, 03:12 AM

The pump is a DC livewell pump that has a stem. Note the black tube going to the bottom of the res. in the ms paint drawing.The problem was with the return line not the pump inlet. Here is a picture of the real thing.

ondaedg · 04-25-2002, 05:29 PM

to prevent the water from flowing back down into the reservoir, you can try using a backflow valve. Lowe's and Home Depots carries them as does mcmastercarr.com . They operate very simply, when pressure one way stops, the valve closes so that fluid can't flow back through.

Haddy · 04-25-2002, 06:35 PM

brad and his l33t m$ paint skillz....guess thats all they got down there in nz

ECUPirate · 04-26-2002, 01:56 AM

what's l33t?

Marco · 04-27-2002, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ECUPirate
what's l33t?

Not you, obviously.

Sorry, i was tempted

Brad · 04-28-2002, 01:14 AM

I have downloaded several copies of photoshop, corel draw, and 4 or so differant cad programs. I just prefer m$paint

Brians256 · 04-28-2002, 09:50 AM

"l33t" is a corruption of "elite", with the 3's substituting for 'e' (giving you "leet"). Basically, it was heavily used by social misfits with a limited vocabulary to make themselves sound cool. Kinda like me in high school.

Backflow valves restrict flow a bit. He's better off with the liquid seal that he has. No flow restriction.

How noisy is that pump? It looks big enough to sump pump a basement!

03-03-2002, 10:15 AM	#1
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	Problem getting air out of lines ... I was having a problem get the air out of my cooling lines. The res and pump are at the bottom of the case. When the pump was shut off the air in the res would go back up the lines to the highest point in the system. So to fix this I add a stem to the return line in the res so that when the pump is turned off the line would be under water. This is my first watercooler and I did research for 2 month before building and installing. I would like to share this with other people starting up was watercooling as I have not see anyone talk about this before. Here is a before and after pic to give y'all an ideal what I'm talking about. __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

03-03-2002, 12:20 PM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	yep, that should have fixed it. It is actually quite surprising just how many people will construct a res like that with the inlet and outlet on the top, when the outlet should be as low as possible __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-03-2002, 12:29 PM	#3
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	I have had no problems with inlets and outlets on the top. As long ad you have a fill tube at the highest pint, or a small bleed tank. There is no worries. but yest that should have fixed it, good work. Pretty nice drawings as well, [sarcasm] I am taking it, it is not to scale [/sarcasm] Just messin wit cha! __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-05-2002, 06:05 AM	#4
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	There is a pic and explanation of my PUMP/RES in this thread http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...8274#post18274 __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow.

03-06-2002, 10:20 PM	#7
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	http://brad.procooling.com/cryo.gif I did that in m$paint, even the 3d part __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-06-2002, 05:28 PM	#5
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Yeah! Your pump was sucking air, those pumps don't like that! Excellent drawing BTW. What software would I need to be able to do that? Jim

03-06-2002, 08:36 PM	#6
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	lol, microsoft paint maybe? really, any imaging software could do that...it just takes a little time.

03-07-2002, 01:42 AM	#8
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	wow, how long did that take???

03-07-2002, 03:19 AM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	an hour or so __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-25-2002, 03:12 AM	#10
Stepback Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 52	The pump is a DC livewell pump that has a stem. Note the black tube going to the bottom of the res. in the ms paint drawing.The problem was with the return line not the pump inlet. Here is a picture of the real thing. __________________ Stepback Maintaining today for a better tommorrow. Last edited by Stepback; 04-25-2002 at 03:14 AM.

04-25-2002, 05:29 PM	#11
ondaedg Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 130	to prevent the water from flowing back down into the reservoir, you can try using a backflow valve. Lowe's and Home Depots carries them as does mcmastercarr.com . They operate very simply, when pressure one way stops, the valve closes so that fluid can't flow back through. __________________ ondaedg@procooling.com

04-25-2002, 06:35 PM	#12
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	brad and his l33t m$ paint skillz....guess thats all they got down there in nz

04-26-2002, 01:56 AM	#13
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	what's l33t? __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

04-28-2002, 01:14 AM	#15
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I have downloaded several copies of photoshop, corel draw, and 4 or so differant cad programs. I just prefer m$paint __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-28-2002, 09:50 AM	#16
Brians256 Pro/Staff Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 1,439	"l33t" is a corruption of "elite", with the 3's substituting for 'e' (giving you "leet"). Basically, it was heavily used by social misfits with a limited vocabulary to make themselves sound cool. Kinda like me in high school. Backflow valves restrict flow a bit. He's better off with the liquid seal that he has. No flow restriction. How noisy is that pump? It looks big enough to sump pump a basement!

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