new water cooled case layout - need input

DigitalChaos · 03-08-2002, 01:25 AM

http://digitalsimplicity.com/mike/case/

obviously its not made yet... but what do you guys think?

the plumbing will be 1/2 from the eheim to a T... then off to each rad... then one rad will feed 3/8" to the block and video
the other rad will feed 3/8" to the chipset and hard drive cooler.
then both lines go into the res, and one 1/2" line goes back to the eheim.

fans: both 120mm fans are pullin air into the case at 5v.
the power supply, along with some exhaust fans that i havent figure out exact placement will pull air out the top

i just picked up some slot fans, and i think they will be able to cover it, if not i could always make a blow hole or 2

oh and i was gonna make this outta plexy... but i know i will scratch the hell out of it, so maybe i could make it out of something more durable, and add windows to the front and the top
if you guys think of any cool material for it let me know!!!

Cyco-Dude · 03-08-2002, 01:33 AM

hmm....heh, cool.
but, the CPU and GPU make the most heat right? wouldnt it be better to put the CPU and NB on one circuit and the GPU and hdd on the other circuit? that way the GPU will be cooled a little better (as the heated water from the CPU wouldnt be used to cool the GPU).

DigitalChaos · 03-08-2002, 01:38 AM

i may do that, plenty of room for testing that, but as of right now my hard drive block seems to put the most heat into the water.

and before anyone gets mad about the fact that i am blowing the warm air from the rads into my case... the air comming off this same setup but with only one rad is 2-5 degrees over ambient. i figure it will go through fast enough that there wont be much saturation.... but if its too hot i can always make 90degree shrouds and blow the air out the side, then put a fan on the back (between the rads and above the pump)

but still i want everyones info... and mainly on material that i should make this out of

joeyd · 03-08-2002, 01:40 AM

how about u make the case taller... and add a 80 mm fan above the pci slots and then one by the cpu socket...

you can run two panflo 80mm LAs ... very silent... i can't even hear the ones i have in my case..

or you can add blow holes on the top of the case by those two areas ..

joeyd · 03-08-2002, 01:48 AM

ack your posts came as i was writing mine hehe...

well i made a case out of plexi glass.. had it till my little cousin wanted it and passed it off ... worked well actually and very light.

it was square like yours and basicly had two compartments

on the bottom was the mb and i had two panflos 120 la's pulling air in and then two above the pic and cpu area pulling air up to the upper compartment.

the upper compartment had my drives cdrom drive and psu ...
I had two fans up there same as before and in the back another two on the top pulling the air up. those though were 120mm ha's ...

it was silent two ... i heard the two 60mm fans on the heatsinks over the sound of the 120's ...

oh also on the top i had one of the 120's blowing air across the hardrives.

this ran my dual p2 350 machine for about 2 years

Brad · 03-08-2002, 03:52 AM

very nice setup, I agree about the 80mm fans though, just make it 80mm taller, and have 4x 80mm at the top of the case, so you motherboard has some airflow over it

DigitalChaos · 03-08-2002, 06:00 AM

cool...
well anyone have any recommendations for the actual material of the case?

WebMasta33 · 03-08-2002, 08:59 AM

1/2" MDF perhaps? It's very tough wood (IE: takes a while to cut). But, it's also very very stong wood, and cheap to boot.

DigitalChaos · 03-08-2002, 12:24 PM

im thinking aluminum.. i hate how wood cases look
and an all plexy case would freak me out with all the radiation i would get.

edit: actually i dont think i would get much radiation due to the fact that i have big ass chunks of copper on my main chips...
radiation from a computer is something i havent really looked into.. anyone know some good links? gonna have to research it a bit

Fixittt · 03-08-2002, 06:08 PM

radiaton? what radiation, I have always had my case open to me sitting right beside me. and have had no effects from this........

can someone tell me why im groing a finger out of my head?

very very nice setup. But one thing to do if its plexy. Get some 1 inch squares for all the corners and bolt them together. That glue is strong, but I fear that the first time U try and move it. CRACK! on the seams.

also working with plexi can be very hard with normal hand tools.

joeyd · 03-08-2002, 06:43 PM

Fixittt , I'm sure your little soldiers disagree with you on that :-) haha

Yes use hinges to put the plexi together....

EMC2 · 03-08-2002, 08:12 PM

If your making your own case, ditch the 80mm fans and set it up to use 120mm fans. More flow for less noise

And I would say use aluminum for construction. Cheap and fairly easy to work with. Just make sure you put a stiffner bar in the middle of the "back side" (behind the mb) to keep it sturdy if you make it tall.

Regarding radiation - much less than what you get from a lot of monitors (or a cellphone or....) and the levels are low enough that unless you do what Fixitt does and keep your head in your case all day, not even worth thinking about.

Brad · 03-08-2002, 08:49 PM

where's the radiation coming from? I guess the monitor would be a possibility, but otherwise, someone is smoking something here

EMC2 · 03-08-2002, 09:50 PM

Digital is talking about EM type radiation, not nuclear

mx-6* · 03-08-2002, 10:34 PM

EMI?

From your computer, not enough to do damage to even itself.

Brad · 03-09-2002, 01:44 AM

emi coming out of the computer isn't bad at all

DigitalChaos · 03-09-2002, 11:04 PM

update- i am pulling the plug on the makin of this case.. infact im giving the mobo and proc that i have now to my dad.

i got a sony mATX setup from best buy (dont ask... it was basically free)

after looking inside the case i decided that it would be a HUGE challenge to do a complete water cooling setup to this thing.
so i am splicing this thread over to:

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=2447

03-08-2002, 01:25 AM	#1
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	new water cooled case layout - need input http://digitalsimplicity.com/mike/case/ obviously its not made yet... but what do you guys think? the plumbing will be 1/2 from the eheim to a T... then off to each rad... then one rad will feed 3/8" to the block and video the other rad will feed 3/8" to the chipset and hard drive cooler. then both lines go into the res, and one 1/2" line goes back to the eheim. fans: both 120mm fans are pullin air into the case at 5v. the power supply, along with some exhaust fans that i havent figure out exact placement will pull air out the top i just picked up some slot fans, and i think they will be able to cover it, if not i could always make a blow hole or 2 oh and i was gonna make this outta plexy... but i know i will scratch the hell out of it, so maybe i could make it out of something more durable, and add windows to the front and the top if you guys think of any cool material for it let me know!!! Last edited by DigitalChaos; 03-08-2002 at 01:29 AM.

03-08-2002, 01:40 AM	#4
joeyd Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: new jersey Posts: 142	hmmm how about u make the case taller... and add a 80 mm fan above the pci slots and then one by the cpu socket... you can run two panflo 80mm LAs ... very silent... i can't even hear the ones i have in my case.. or you can add blow holes on the top of the case by those two areas .. __________________ soyo dragon kt333. axp 2000 1gig of ddr333 ati radeon 9700 pro My Heatware

03-08-2002, 01:48 AM	#5
joeyd Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: new jersey Posts: 142	ack ack your posts came as i was writing mine hehe... well i made a case out of plexi glass.. had it till my little cousin wanted it and passed it off ... worked well actually and very light. it was square like yours and basicly had two compartments on the bottom was the mb and i had two panflos 120 la's pulling air in and then two above the pic and cpu area pulling air up to the upper compartment. the upper compartment had my drives cdrom drive and psu ... I had two fans up there same as before and in the back another two on the top pulling the air up. those though were 120mm ha's ... it was silent two ... i heard the two 60mm fans on the heatsinks over the sound of the 120's ... oh also on the top i had one of the 120's blowing air across the hardrives. this ran my dual p2 350 machine for about 2 years __________________ soyo dragon kt333. axp 2000 1gig of ddr333 ati radeon 9700 pro My Heatware

03-08-2002, 03:52 AM	#6
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	very nice setup, I agree about the 80mm fans though, just make it 80mm taller, and have 4x 80mm at the top of the case, so you motherboard has some airflow over it __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-08-2002, 08:59 AM	#8
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	1/2" MDF perhaps? It's very tough wood (IE: takes a while to cut). But, it's also very very stong wood, and cheap to boot. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

03-08-2002, 01:33 AM	#2
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	hmm....heh, cool. but, the CPU and GPU make the most heat right? wouldnt it be better to put the CPU and NB on one circuit and the GPU and hdd on the other circuit? that way the GPU will be cooled a little better (as the heated water from the CPU wouldnt be used to cool the GPU).

03-08-2002, 01:38 AM	#3
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	i may do that, plenty of room for testing that, but as of right now my hard drive block seems to put the most heat into the water. and before anyone gets mad about the fact that i am blowing the warm air from the rads into my case... the air comming off this same setup but with only one rad is 2-5 degrees over ambient. i figure it will go through fast enough that there wont be much saturation.... but if its too hot i can always make 90degree shrouds and blow the air out the side, then put a fan on the back (between the rads and above the pump) but still i want everyones info... and mainly on material that i should make this out of

03-08-2002, 06:00 AM	#7
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	cool... well anyone have any recommendations for the actual material of the case?

03-08-2002, 12:24 PM	#9
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	im thinking aluminum.. i hate how wood cases look and an all plexy case would freak me out with all the radiation i would get. edit: actually i dont think i would get much radiation due to the fact that i have big ass chunks of copper on my main chips... radiation from a computer is something i havent really looked into.. anyone know some good links? gonna have to research it a bit Last edited by DigitalChaos; 03-08-2002 at 12:29 PM.

03-08-2002, 06:08 PM	#10
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	radiaton? what radiation, I have always had my case open to me sitting right beside me. and have had no effects from this........ can someone tell me why im groing a finger out of my head? very very nice setup. But one thing to do if its plexy. Get some 1 inch squares for all the corners and bolt them together. That glue is strong, but I fear that the first time U try and move it. CRACK! on the seams. also working with plexi can be very hard with normal hand tools. __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-08-2002, 06:43 PM	#11
joeyd Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: new jersey Posts: 142	haha Fixittt , I'm sure your little soldiers disagree with you on that :-) haha Yes use hinges to put the plexi together.... __________________ soyo dragon kt333. axp 2000 1gig of ddr333 ati radeon 9700 pro My Heatware

03-08-2002, 08:12 PM	#12
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	If your making your own case, ditch the 80mm fans and set it up to use 120mm fans. More flow for less noise And I would say use aluminum for construction. Cheap and fairly easy to work with. Just make sure you put a stiffner bar in the middle of the "back side" (behind the mb) to keep it sturdy if you make it tall. Regarding radiation - much less than what you get from a lot of monitors (or a cellphone or....) and the levels are low enough that unless you do what Fixitt does and keep your head in your case all day, not even worth thinking about.

03-08-2002, 08:49 PM	#13
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	where's the radiation coming from? I guess the monitor would be a possibility, but otherwise, someone is smoking something here __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-08-2002, 09:50 PM	#14
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	Digital is talking about EM type radiation, not nuclear

03-08-2002, 10:34 PM	#15
mx-6* Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 165	EMI? From your computer, not enough to do damage to even itself. Last edited by mx-6; 03-08-2002 at 10:41 PM.*

03-09-2002, 01:44 AM	#16
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	emi coming out of the computer isn't bad at all __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-09-2002, 11:04 PM	#17
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	update- i am pulling the plug on the makin of this case.. infact im giving the mobo and proc that i have now to my dad. i got a sony mATX setup from best buy (dont ask... it was basically free) after looking inside the case i decided that it would be a HUGE challenge to do a complete water cooling setup to this thing. so i am splicing this thread over to: http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=2447

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