1st time H20 Setup

Crosstrack16 · 06-23-2001, 08:54 PM

Do you need a cpu shim for a waterblock oon and amd t-bird?

redleader · 06-24-2001, 12:51 PM

No shims are for people who can't mount a sink correctly. Sort of like training wheels on a bicycle.

Darkhorse · 06-24-2001, 05:06 PM

The same people who think car insurance is for people who can't drive properly?

coleslaw · 06-24-2001, 06:27 PM

To shim or not to shim, that is the question! Any success or nightmare stories about using shims anyone??

Darkhorse · 06-25-2001, 02:33 AM

Considering how cheap a shim is compared to the processor it is protecting. I think it's a good investment even if it only reduces the risk of cracking your core by 10% (although I'm sure it helps more than that).

imagex · 06-25-2001, 10:19 AM

so far as i can see there are not needed, out of two durons that i have killed one from moisture and one from a pelt on backwords," duh" but no problems with cracking a core. i've had small chips that did not hurt the core. the best way to attach a sink is to use 4 bolts throgh the mobo and then use springs and nuts to give even to torque.

http://www.geocities.com/jamestune_2...l?947305781960

Darkhorse · 06-25-2001, 12:29 PM

Trouble is most heatsinks come with spring clips which can be difficult to fit. I've been building PC's/Servers for over 10 years (and I've finally finished one

) & once in a while I'll get a nice new heatsink with, what seems like, the tension of a lorry suspension leaf spring. Maybe shims are more gimmick than useful, but I'll take that risk considering how much harware costs in this country (1:1 $-£)

redleader · 06-26-2001, 11:23 PM

My thinking is that if you use a reasonable amount of force you won't break the core. If you find yourself really fighting with the clip, take it off and flex it a little until it can go on with a confortable amount of force.

Besides other people can hit me while I drive. I've never heard of somebody else's computer smashing a die while you mount the sink

Darkhorse · 06-27-2001, 08:51 AM

Red,

Good advice.

LOL. Although I think you are missing the point. I know how to install a HS, not exactly rocket science. But there is always the possibility that I'll slip or whatever & kill the CPU. So if I can lessen the chance of damage.

A 1.3 TBird costs the equiv of $250 in the UK.

lancelh · 06-29-2001, 07:35 AM

If your considering a Shim, you should look at the non-conductive shimms that crazypc sells. There around 9 bucks and they don't insulate heat right around the edges of the cpu. Stay away from copper shimms at all costs. I have seen an AMD fry because the shimm forced those little round spacers off the chip. Thus the shimm slid over the bridges.

Here's the Shimm link

http://www.crazypc.com/products/acce...ccessories.htm

06-23-2001, 08:54 PM	#1
Crosstrack16 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 169	1st time H20 Setup Do you need a cpu shim for a waterblock oon and amd t-bird?

06-24-2001, 06:27 PM	#4
coleslaw Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 12	To shim or not to shim, that is the question! Any success or nightmare stories about using shims anyone?? __________________ would you like coleslaw with that?

06-25-2001, 10:19 AM	#6
imagex Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: south FL Posts: 220	so far as i can see there are not needed, out of two durons that i have killed one from moisture and one from a pelt on backwords," duh" but no problems with cracking a core. i've had small chips that did not hurt the core. the best way to attach a sink is to use 4 bolts throgh the mobo and then use springs and nuts to give even to torque. http://www.geocities.com/jamestune_2...l?947305781960 __________________ Overkill'n Overclock'n Hybrid Mobile Solutions

06-29-2001, 07:35 AM	#10
lancelh Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: B.C. MI Posts: 17	If your considering a Shim, you should look at the non-conductive shimms that crazypc sells. There around 9 bucks and they don't insulate heat right around the edges of the cpu. Stay away from copper shimms at all costs. I have seen an AMD fry because the shimm forced those little round spacers off the chip. Thus the shimm slid over the bridges. Here's the Shimm link http://www.crazypc.com/products/acce...ccessories.htm __________________ "FIRE FROM ICE"

06-24-2001, 12:51 PM	#2
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	No shims are for people who can't mount a sink correctly. Sort of like training wheels on a bicycle.

06-24-2001, 05:06 PM	#3
Darkhorse Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: UK Posts: 103	The same people who think car insurance is for people who can't drive properly?

06-25-2001, 02:33 AM	#5
Darkhorse Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: UK Posts: 103	Considering how cheap a shim is compared to the processor it is protecting. I think it's a good investment even if it only reduces the risk of cracking your core by 10% (although I'm sure it helps more than that).

06-25-2001, 12:29 PM	#7
Darkhorse Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: UK Posts: 103	Trouble is most heatsinks come with spring clips which can be difficult to fit. I've been building PC's/Servers for over 10 years (and I've finally finished one ) & once in a while I'll get a nice new heatsink with, what seems like, the tension of a lorry suspension leaf spring. Maybe shims are more gimmick than useful, but I'll take that risk considering how much harware costs in this country (1:1 $-£)

06-26-2001, 11:23 PM	#8
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	My thinking is that if you use a reasonable amount of force you won't break the core. If you find yourself really fighting with the clip, take it off and flex it a little until it can go on with a confortable amount of force. Besides other people can hit me while I drive. I've never heard of somebody else's computer smashing a die while you mount the sink

06-27-2001, 08:51 AM	#9
Darkhorse Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: UK Posts: 103	Red, Good advice. LOL. Although I think you are missing the point. I know how to install a HS, not exactly rocket science. But there is always the possibility that I'll slip or whatever & kill the CPU. So if I can lessen the chance of damage. A 1.3 TBird costs the equiv of $250 in the UK.

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