cant unlock the 2100+ with brown packaging

DigitalChaos · 04-14-2002, 07:17 PM

I ordered a 2100+ from newegg... i thought all 2100+ were supposed to be green, but mine is brown.

i have tried many times to unlock it and change the multiplier with my 8k3a+, but it just results in no post. ONE time i managed a 14x multiplier (instead of default 13) but this was playing around with an LCD connector, and i set the multiplier LOWER than 13....

anyway i measure EVERY contact and EVERY trace with an Ohm meter. The resistance between the bottom L1 contacts and ground is 350 ohms.. the resistance between each bottom contact is 650ohms the top contacts had no connection at all.

after connecting the bottom contacts with the top contacts.. the top contacts then also had the 350 ohm to ground and 650ohm between them. I tested EVERY contact and there is NO short to ground, and NO short between them... i have redone it about 10 times.. and each time tested out good, but i still cant change the multiplier.

super glue was used to fill the gap, then rear window defrost repair kit to connect. then GOOP over the top to preserve the traces.

oh and when i refer to the bottom contact.. it is the row with the triangle.

anybody know whats up? the cuts were pretty small as you can see in the L3 and L4 bridges... dunno if that has anything to do with it.

DigitalChaos · 04-15-2002, 12:04 AM

http://www.pcstats.com/articleviewre...id=1009&page=1

looks like there needs to be alot of modification to underclock the 2100+ (so you can raise the fsb alot)

basically turn it into a 1600+

Brad · 04-15-2002, 04:48 AM

you're unlocking it just fine, in the 13x - 20.5x range. if you want to access multipliers lower than 13, change the L10 bridge over. Your cpu will default at 5.5x now, but you will get 5.5 - 12.5

Haddy · 04-15-2002, 09:37 PM

so basicly its his bios that wont let him go higher huh?

Brad · 04-16-2002, 03:24 AM

when he sets it to 12.5 it is trying to do 20.5 hehe. it's just one of those things. the board manufacturer didn't anticipate multipliers of above 12.5

DigitalChaos · 04-16-2002, 11:27 AM

no... im doing air cooling and i cant bump the voltage up anymore. i DID manage a 14x multiplier boot, but its not what i was looking for. 13x133= 1729 (default) 14x133= 1862 (a little much for stock voltage)

im working on setting my processor to a 1600+ by cutting and connecting the L3 L4 and L10 bridges, this will give me all multipliers 12.5 and under. but nothing higher which kinda sucks if i wanna switch back.

Haddy · 04-16-2002, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
when he sets it to 12.5 it is trying to do 20.5 hehe. it's just one of those things. the board manufacturer didn't anticipate multipliers of above 12.5

20.5multiplyer

need new mobos with higher multiplyer ratings....or atleast some sorta bios update

DigitalChaos · 04-16-2002, 01:27 PM

my bios will let me manually set up to a 15. my cpu doesnt like that though =)

Brad · 04-16-2002, 01:59 PM

why bother with the L3 and L4?

just change the L10, it will default to 5.5, and you can go all the way up to 12.5. And it's much easier to reverse just one bridge.

DigitalChaos · 04-17-2002, 06:37 PM

then why did they change teh L10, AND the L3 and L4 in : http://www.pcstats.com/articleviewre...id=1009&page=1 (second page is where they did it)

Brad · 04-18-2002, 02:19 AM

because they wanted the multi at 10.5x default, not 5.5

UnaClocker · 04-28-2002, 01:14 AM

Brad's right, you only need to change the L10's..

DigitalChaos · 04-28-2002, 10:42 AM

yup, thats what i plan on doing, but ill do that 3 weeks from now, AFTER my final papers are done, being that this is my only computer right now =)

04-14-2002, 07:17 PM	#1
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	cant unlock the 2100+ with brown packaging I ordered a 2100+ from newegg... i thought all 2100+ were supposed to be green, but mine is brown. i have tried many times to unlock it and change the multiplier with my 8k3a+, but it just results in no post. ONE time i managed a 14x multiplier (instead of default 13) but this was playing around with an LCD connector, and i set the multiplier LOWER than 13.... anyway i measure EVERY contact and EVERY trace with an Ohm meter. The resistance between the bottom L1 contacts and ground is 350 ohms.. the resistance between each bottom contact is 650ohms the top contacts had no connection at all. after connecting the bottom contacts with the top contacts.. the top contacts then also had the 350 ohm to ground and 650ohm between them. I tested EVERY contact and there is NO short to ground, and NO short between them... i have redone it about 10 times.. and each time tested out good, but i still cant change the multiplier. super glue was used to fill the gap, then rear window defrost repair kit to connect. then GOOP over the top to preserve the traces. oh and when i refer to the bottom contact.. it is the row with the triangle. anybody know whats up? the cuts were pretty small as you can see in the L3 and L4 bridges... dunno if that has anything to do with it.

04-15-2002, 04:48 AM	#3
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	you're unlocking it just fine, in the 13x - 20.5x range. if you want to access multipliers lower than 13, change the L10 bridge over. Your cpu will default at 5.5x now, but you will get 5.5 - 12.5 __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-16-2002, 03:24 AM	#5
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	when he sets it to 12.5 it is trying to do 20.5 hehe. it's just one of those things. the board manufacturer didn't anticipate multipliers of above 12.5 __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-16-2002, 01:59 PM	#9
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	why bother with the L3 and L4? just change the L10, it will default to 5.5, and you can go all the way up to 12.5. And it's much easier to reverse just one bridge. __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-18-2002, 02:19 AM	#11
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	because they wanted the multi at 10.5x default, not 5.5 __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-15-2002, 12:04 AM	#2
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	http://www.pcstats.com/articleviewre...id=1009&page=1 looks like there needs to be alot of modification to underclock the 2100+ (so you can raise the fsb alot) basically turn it into a 1600+

04-15-2002, 09:37 PM	#4
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	so basicly its his bios that wont let him go higher huh?

04-16-2002, 11:27 AM	#6
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	no... im doing air cooling and i cant bump the voltage up anymore. i DID manage a 14x multiplier boot, but its not what i was looking for. 13x133= 1729 (default) 14x133= 1862 (a little much for stock voltage) im working on setting my processor to a 1600+ by cutting and connecting the L3 L4 and L10 bridges, this will give me all multipliers 12.5 and under. but nothing higher which kinda sucks if i wanna switch back.

04-16-2002, 01:27 PM	#8
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	my bios will let me manually set up to a 15. my cpu doesnt like that though =)

04-17-2002, 06:37 PM	#10
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	then why did they change teh L10, AND the L3 and L4 in : http://www.pcstats.com/articleviewre...id=1009&page=1 (second page is where they did it)

04-28-2002, 01:14 AM	#12
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	Brad's right, you only need to change the L10's.. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

04-28-2002, 10:42 AM	#13
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	yup, thats what i plan on doing, but ill do that 3 weeks from now, AFTER my final papers are done, being that this is my only computer right now =)

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