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General Liquid/Water Cooling Discussion For discussion about Full Cooling System kits, or general cooling topics. Keep specific cooling items like pumps, radiators, etc... in their specific forums. |
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I thought I'd share with you guys my scare yesterday. I was replacing my BIX with a dtek pro rad. Everything was going great... So once the new rad, shrouds, and fans were hooked up I just naturally hit the power button on the computer. Everything booted fine and off into windows I went. Once the system booted I was looking at my LCD and it was showing my CPU temp at 120f. Quickly I shut the computer down and started to look around to see why my temps were so high. Low and behold, I FORGOT TO FILL THE SYSTEM WITH WATER!!!!
I don't know how and why but my CPU didn't fry!!!!! Thought you guys would find this funny ![]() |
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NIce that it didn't fry. I've only had one time like that. I got into a hurry and didn't even put a heatsink on my xp and even though it was only on for a few seconds my cpu was dead. I think it messed the motherboard up also as after that the motherboard fried 2 or 3 more cpu's before I rma'd it.
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LOL
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Join Date: May 2002
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My death toll :
1 ea. 1.4 Tbird 1 ea. 1.2 Tbird 1 ea. Duron 750
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cross my fingers
i guess i have been lucky all i have done was melt AS down my cpu a couple of times..but now burnouts yet...i know its coming though because im runing my cpu at 2.1 volts...im sure that one little stupid mistake and that babys gone
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That is why anytime I play with any heatsinks, I make a check list of things to check (duh
![]() I'd rather spend 5 min filling one out, then waiting 4 days for a new processor
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When I was building/testing my PWM fan controller I once forgot to plug the 120mm fan on my rad back into the PSU when I went back to work on the PWM circuit. Ran my system (just playing MP3's while I worked elsewhere so only like 2% load on it) for about 3 hours like that. The tubing (tygon, thin-wall) got REALLY soft and quite warm to the touch, but with all the surface area of the rad/tubing/etc. it was able to passively radiate enough heat to keep running. Then again - it probably would have overheated if I had had the side-panel on the case to stop cool air flowing in.
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Heh, a good thing to do is unplug the damn thing.
Then you remember to put a heatsink on before you hit *power* I havnt killed anything yet, although ive chipped the cores on a 1ghz athlon and a 700mhz athlon. Thank god the 1ghz survived. It wasnt mine
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I had to send a 1.4 Tbird back to AMD last week,not burnt or cracked but one of the little SMT thingys on top had suspicious burns. In the meantime, I picked up a 1.1 Duron to play with,which I promptly chipped in one of the 10 times removing or replacing my waterblock. I was cutting,penciling,recutting more bridges trying to get a lower multiplier. Got that figured out, but man I was skeered when I heard that grinding noise.
So far so good, but I imagine this chip will slowly die from core loss....lol I really despise the fragility of these cores..I know people say all the time how they R&R HSF's 100x and never chip a core,All I gotta say is "you da man ! "
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I must say, with all these stories I hear about chipped cores and killing CPUs, I am glad that I use a shim. Not to mention that with an extra amount of AS3 between the shim and the WB, it keeps things a bit cooler in the case.
BTW, yes I have chipped (2) Athlons to date; one is still working fine and the otherone was dead before it got chipped (damn Alpha heat sinks!!) These happened before I used a shim.
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I got U all beat.
I have 2x 1.2 t birds (crushed cores) one fried 1.2 tbird RMA`d 2 800 durons one fried 750 duron a flakey 750 duron. a dead p3 700 a dead p3 750 a fried p3 500 slot 1 a fried p2 300 and a whole bunch of regular pentiums that either fried, or are flakey due to heat issues, and 1 happy 950 duron sitting at almost 1.4 I have been doing this a very very long time.
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do you use a shim? if not, you might want to
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Man, I must still be a n00b, I haven't really killed any hardware expcept for an ATA cable that I tried to round. I don't have a shim, I've taken my block on and off about 10 times trying to unlock my chip. The one thing I have done is tried to unlock my XP with a soldering iron, bad idea if your iron has a huge tip. Sooo, my chip works fine, but I think it's neutered and won't unlock since one of the bridges is scortched. Oh well, it was only a 1600+ to last me until t-bred comes out
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I've never killed anything, I mount hsf's on 5-10 cpu's everyday, I've put a small chip on an Athlon 1333, but it didn't affect the cpu.
Nothing else at all though
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I use a shim. It's a small price to pay for insurance.
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wow...that dude thats fried 10+ cpus must be insane.
as for me, i only fried a xp1700. had the Alpha heatsink/Delta fan off it and i hit the power button. the comp ran fine....for 25 seconds. thank god fries has a return policy. |
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dammit.....i want to professionially burn up procs
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My supplier of AMD products was a little concerned when I recently returned a 1.4 TBird. He asked if I ran it @default settings and I assured him of course I did. The 1.4 was one that AMD sent me to replace a 1.2 that died of unknown causes. I can understand his suprise ,as I had just picked it up 2 weeks prior.
No cracks, chips or burns, so I still claim I'm innocent of proccessor abuse. ![]()
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When you have been doing this as long as I have, and have as many parts flowing thrue your fingers, your bound to kill a few.
I will admit that the crushed cores were due to over tightning the bolts. But that is all ill admitt to ![]()
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With about 10 years of PC experience I can proudly say that the only thing I've ever killed is an old AT PSU (though I was begging for it flipping the 110/220v switch when it was on). Also I've had a cyrix CPU die on me for no good reason (I wasn't very surprised.).
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OHHH CYRIX!!! I mae a still (SP) out of an old cyrix 166+
soldered up a small copper block, to fit on the processor, fermented some grapes for a few weeks, put the goo in the copper box, with hoses coming off the top. fired up the system, and ran a full load program in unix. It boiled off the goo, and down the tube came drops of good drinkin stuff. got a small vile full. the setup was a complete sucsess. I have had alot of hardware die on my bench.......... but my personal stuff is listed above.
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Well it was one of the "300" cyrix's that actually were 200mhz and perforemd like a 166
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bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhh
cyrix!!! you had to mention cyrix!!!! I'm not going to get any sleep tonight
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lol. i remember when i had a 200mhz Cyrix. got rid of that for a 300mhz K6 (which i still have).
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