Lost data

PlawsWorth · 10-21-2002, 11:34 AM

I had to reinstall winxp since it had turn totally mad. And I didn't save some files I have in My Documents catalog. Is there any program that can help me restoring that data?

utabintarbo · 10-21-2002, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlawsWorth
I had to reinstall winxp since it had turn totally mad. And I didn't save some files I have in My Documents catalog. Is there any program that can help me restoring that data?

If you re-installed XP on top of your old setup, you are fscked! The chances for recovery are slim indeed! Sorry. :shrug:

Joe · 10-21-2002, 12:25 PM

there are 3 problems that you need to deal with.

1. you installed windows XP, that on its own is asking for trouble

2. you installed windows XP over a functional OS, and now you have a broken machine. Hmm

3. you installed windows XP.

Windows 2000 for life!

mfpmax · 10-21-2002, 12:51 PM

Yeah, pretty much...XP is the problem.

I installed XP and installed 2000 recently...2000 makes me feel a little better cause it still sorta looks like Windows 98 SE...

XP on the other hand is all...bleh.

PlawsWorth · 10-21-2002, 01:56 PM

Well, Mr Joe

To be honest. I'm much more a fan of 2000 than xp. The only two direct bad thing about 2000 is the blue screen that once appeard when I last used it and forced me to reinstall. The other being that I can't lock the taskbar as in xp. I'm going to install 2000, when my computer ****ed up. Only problem is I got 40*700mb Cd-r hp disc that need to be burned, to back up half of what I got stored. So this will be the last time for xp on this machine. But now, once again, is there any program?

nuclear · 10-21-2002, 03:26 PM

Did you format?
If so the formatted data on that partition are almost not recoverable.
You might want to try undelete from the company that does diskkeeper (doesnt remenber the name) It might be able to get back those file.

jtroutma · 10-21-2002, 03:47 PM

PlawsWorth: I have to agree with everyone else on this matter. The files are almost for sure gone. XP and 2000 can NOT be reinstalled " on top of themselves" and MS prevents this by forced deletion of the System Root folder (normally WinNT or Windows under XP) AND the Documents and Settings folder (where your My Documents folder is kept).

The only thing you can try to recover your files are UNDELETE programs. I think Norton has an product like that or some other Third Party software maker has undelete programs.

My advise though; breath in DEEP, accept your losses, blame everything on MS, and install 2000

nuclear · 10-21-2002, 03:54 PM

Totaly false
Reinstalling windows xp or 2000 on an already installed one will not delete documents and settings. It will even create the user administrator as administrator.computername.
I've done it many time, reinstalling over an already installed w2k or wxp will simply delete some files of the winnt or windows folder (not all, since most dll in the system32 are still there so many application already installed will still work, but will not have their reg keys.)
If you didn't do a format, maybe you should try a search for the files.
Also, on the undelete web site, there is a free ware to view deleted files

bigben2k · 10-21-2002, 04:24 PM

The files are still there, but not easily recoverable. Try suggestion above.

The freakiest thing happened to me, some time back: I had copied the Windows 95 CD onto my hard drive, and as I was messing with the partitions, and re-formatting the drive, the computer accidentaly recognized an old partition.

I re-installed Windows 95 from this "ghost" partition... A first for many, I'm sure!

jtroutma · 10-21-2002, 07:27 PM

OHHHHHH............... Dang it!

Yes Nuclear is right it just renames the Administrator + user folders and uses new folders.

But I KNOW that it does wipe out most of the WINNT or WINDOWS folder.

Grrrrr I am getting too many facts mixed up in my overloaded brain.......

pHaestus · 10-21-2002, 10:39 PM

Look in Documents and Settings for old User folders. If you use a difft login it saves everything I think. If that isn't the case, and you are using FAT32, you can prolly find Lost and Foundon juarez sites. If NTFS I forget the name of the program you need but it does exist.

Arcturius · 10-22-2002, 01:00 AM

Try Stellar Phoenix. If you've formatted, you're probably screwed. If you've written anything to the disk (OS reinstall) you're almost guaranteed to be screwed.
I accidentally fdisk'd the wrong drive once...so I've got a copy of Phoenix around here somewhere. The free trial will give you an idea of what can be salvaged. Come to think of it, I don't recall if it reads NTFS partitions...

But, there is still a chance...good luck.

PlawsWorth · 10-22-2002, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
there are 3 problems that you need to deal with.

1. you installed windows XP, that on its own is asking for trouble

2. you installed windows XP over a functional OS, and now you have a broken machine. Hmm

3. you installed windows XP.

Windows 2000 for life!

Well, I hate XP also. But except for a few answers here. Most of you guys was wrong. I had Xp installed and reinstalled it twice and I was able to save all the files very easy thanks to PC Inspector File Recovery. No problems at all saving it ;-P Anyway, now I have to backup 40 cd-r discs with my 4x cd-rw burner. Which take 20min for each disc.........so the next time I will backup once a week and use 2000. Thx anyway for the right and wrong answers

10-21-2002, 11:34 AM	#1
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	Lost data I had to reinstall winxp since it had turn totally mad. And I didn't save some files I have in My Documents catalog. Is there any program that can help me restoring that data? __________________ cocaine addict

10-21-2002, 12:25 PM	#3
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	there are 3 problems that you need to deal with. 1. you installed windows XP, that on its own is asking for trouble 2. you installed windows XP over a functional OS, and now you have a broken machine. Hmm 3. you installed windows XP. Windows 2000 for life! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

10-21-2002, 12:51 PM	#4
mfpmax Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rockledge,FL,US Posts: 731	Yeah, pretty much...XP is the problem. I installed XP and installed 2000 recently...2000 makes me feel a little better cause it still sorta looks like Windows 98 SE... XP on the other hand is all...bleh. __________________ My old and retired watercooling setup. Watercooled K6-2 450 at 600 Also Retired - Watercooling an XP1800@1782MHz

10-21-2002, 01:56 PM	#5
PlawsWorth Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	hehe Well, Mr Joe To be honest. I'm much more a fan of 2000 than xp. The only two direct bad thing about 2000 is the blue screen that once appeard when I last used it and forced me to reinstall. The other being that I can't lock the taskbar as in xp. I'm going to install 2000, when my computer ***ed up. Only problem is I got 40700mb Cd-r hp disc that need to be burned, to back up half of what I got stored. So this will be the last time for xp on this machine. But now, once again, is there any program? __________________ cocaine addict

10-21-2002, 03:47 PM	#7
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	PlawsWorth: I have to agree with everyone else on this matter. The files are almost for sure gone. XP and 2000 can NOT be reinstalled " on top of themselves" and MS prevents this by forced deletion of the System Root folder (normally WinNT or Windows under XP) AND the Documents and Settings folder (where your My Documents folder is kept). The only thing you can try to recover your files are UNDELETE programs. I think Norton has an product like that or some other Third Party software maker has undelete programs. My advise though; breath in DEEP, accept your losses, blame everything on MS, and install 2000 __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

10-21-2002, 03:26 PM	#6
nuclear Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quebec Posts: 46	Did you format? If so the formatted data on that partition are almost not recoverable. You might want to try undelete from the company that does diskkeeper (doesnt remenber the name) It might be able to get back those file.

10-21-2002, 03:54 PM	#8
nuclear Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quebec Posts: 46	Totaly false Reinstalling windows xp or 2000 on an already installed one will not delete documents and settings. It will even create the user administrator as administrator.computername. I've done it many time, reinstalling over an already installed w2k or wxp will simply delete some files of the winnt or windows folder (not all, since most dll in the system32 are still there so many application already installed will still work, but will not have their reg keys.) If you didn't do a format, maybe you should try a search for the files. Also, on the undelete web site, there is a free ware to view deleted files

10-21-2002, 04:24 PM	#9
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	The files are still there, but not easily recoverable. Try suggestion above. The freakiest thing happened to me, some time back: I had copied the Windows 95 CD onto my hard drive, and as I was messing with the partitions, and re-formatting the drive, the computer accidentaly recognized an old partition. I re-installed Windows 95 from this "ghost" partition... A first for many, I'm sure! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

10-21-2002, 07:27 PM	#10
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	OHHHHHH............... Dang it! Yes Nuclear is right it just renames the Administrator + user folders and uses new folders. But I KNOW that it does wipe out most of the WINNT or WINDOWS folder. Grrrrr I am getting too many facts mixed up in my overloaded brain....... __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

10-21-2002, 10:39 PM	#11
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Look in Documents and Settings for old User folders. If you use a difft login it saves everything I think. If that isn't the case, and you are using FAT32, you can prolly find Lost and Foundon juarez sites. If NTFS I forget the name of the program you need but it does exist.

10-22-2002, 01:00 AM	#12
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	Try Stellar Phoenix. If you've formatted, you're probably screwed. If you've written anything to the disk (OS reinstall) you're almost guaranteed to be screwed. I accidentally fdisk'd the wrong drive once...so I've got a copy of Phoenix around here somewhere. The free trial will give you an idea of what can be salvaged. Come to think of it, I don't recall if it reads NTFS partitions... But, there is still a chance...good luck.

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