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Unread 02-26-2003, 10:11 PM   #1
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Default Everything you know about resevoirs

Okay I am building my own res and I need to know everything. I am working on my pics right now and will post them later. I want to know, should I be using a special plastic? Should it be airtight? If I have a UV light will that affect the plastic? Is there a minimum thickness that I should use? I am using Weld-on #16, is that a good cement? Should I silicone all connections? Is there a specific silicone that I sould use? If I make a drain at the bottom what can I do to ensure that it does not leak? Anything that I missed? Any comments are welcome. Thanks again peeps!
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Unread 02-26-2003, 10:32 PM   #2
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Weld on 16 is fine.

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Under raw materials go to plastics and then to cast acrylic or polycarbonate. The second type is the best there is, but costs.

They have tubeing, sheets of differant sizes. 1/8" walled polycarb is tough stuff, stronger than 1/4" cast acrylic.

That weld-on you have is all you need for building the res as far as joining differant parts togather. Marine or plumbers silicone would be a good idea for barbs where lines are coming into the res from the blocks, and for that drain outlet as well. Pay for a decent quality ball or gate type valve for the drain and sleep well. The pump shoul alos get some of the silicone to help insure a good seal.

Res does not have to be totally air tight. UV won't be a issure.

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Unread 02-26-2003, 10:52 PM   #3
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Here go some pics of my idea

btw, the color pic is the top view and the black thing is my Mag-Drive 3
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Unread 02-26-2003, 11:22 PM   #4
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What is the purpose of the box? Too many chances of leaking. Forget the box, keep the tube. I did something along these lines awhile ago.

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Unread 02-27-2003, 12:16 AM   #5
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Damn...KISS I guess (keep it simple stupid)...but mine is prettier ...okay I gotta think about this some more ...Thanks for the help Koslov
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Unread 02-27-2003, 08:11 AM   #6
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first answers to your questions:
no, yes preferably, yes, no, yes, no (use epoxy), no (use epoxy), use sealing epoxy, yes.

There's a special kind of expoxy that's waterproof and chemically resistant. It's made of a grey powder and a smelly goo. It's very strong and makes a good sealant for barbs.
Use a tube not a box - easier. Put caps at both ends and holes where you want to put barbs. There are screw-on caps that come in 3 parts (o-ring, cap, threaded tube section) which are very useful for making airtraps.
Keep it as small as possible to prevent case clutter, unless you want to show off, or put fishes in it ot whatever.
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Unread 02-27-2003, 11:29 AM   #7
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first answers to your questions:
no, yes preferably, yes, no, yes, no (use epoxy), no (use epoxy), use sealing epoxy, yes.

There's a special kind of expoxy that's waterproof and chemically resistant. It's made of a grey powder and a smelly goo. It's very strong and makes a good sealant for barbs.
Use a tube not a box - easier. Put caps at both ends and holes where you want to put barbs. There are screw-on caps that come in 3 parts (o-ring, cap, threaded tube section) which are very useful for making airtraps.
Keep it as small as possible to prevent case clutter, unless you want to show off, or put fishes in it ot whatever.
What's the powder/goo called? Fishes inside, can I do that ? Naw jus kiddin, but yes I want to show off, I have a case window so yes I want everyone to see it . Does the amount of water in a res matter?

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Unread 02-27-2003, 03:03 PM   #8
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Okay I have thought about it some more and I really want the whole thing so I think what I am going to do is have a guy that I know who owns a plastic place melt the bends into the the box so that there will be only 1 seam on the side and 1 on the top and 1 on the bottom.
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Unread 02-27-2003, 05:09 PM   #9
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There is zero functional reason for the box, all the water will come to temp equilibrium very shortly after the CPU is powered. That little bit more water won't make any difference. Just adds weight.

I'd use acrylic glue, then use plumber's goop to attach the fittings.
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Unread 02-27-2003, 06:33 PM   #10
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Does the amount of water in a res matter?
Absolutely not.

Ah if you plan to carry your PC to a LAN party, you'll see how it matters...
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Unread 02-27-2003, 06:41 PM   #11
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The only real reason for the box is looks, I think that it will look cool, sure wish I could stick some fish in there though like gmat proposed, the only problem is that the pump would turn the fish into chum and I don't think they would be happy being UV reactive chum in a bath of purple ice.

No lanning for me gmat and if I did I would probably just use a case full of tornado's and pair of Sennheiser's.
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Unread 03-01-2003, 04:31 PM   #12
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An alternative is PVC. However clear PCV is hard to find, but if you can get some its extremely easy to work with. As a soft material it doesn't crack and can be sealed with standard PVC cement.

I was lucky and got some. I used a drill press to put a pai of holes in the side, tapped them 3/8 NPT and added some barbs. To make sure they didn't leak, I added a little bit of marine goop.

Finally I added standard PVC end caps. The whole project cost me $14 and an afternoon.

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Unread 03-01-2003, 11:41 PM   #13
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The whole box thing is in the shitter. I have done a bunch of measuring and reconfiguring and I am best off with just the tube though I want to make it so that I can open it from either side for maintenance. Maybe use some sort of grommet/washer things (I don't know what they call those black rubber things) to be a barrier.

Anyways I am forked til Friday as I have run out of cash and now I am getting this damn waterblock itch since seeing what volenti did with a mitre saw, I'm gonna have to take a loan out soon. I have to go to my wawa anonymous meeting now.
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