LRWW Setup

tok3n · 06-19-2003, 11:16 PM

I need some feedback on this setup: if it would work well with a LRWW.

-200gph pump tank (from www.sysfx.net - not released yet) - about 10-13W

-120mm radiator with 120mm fan (108cfm)

-1/2" tubing and system

-only cpu on the loop - a P4 - but might add a GPU waterblock to the loop inline - not sure yet - would that increase temps or stress the system?

bigben2k · 06-20-2003, 07:25 AM

If the CPU is one of the latest 3.06 to come out (or similar high speed), and/or if you plan to overclock, I'd have to recommend a beefier pump, and a better heatercore than what sounds like a BIM (Black Ice Micro).

Otherwise, you're good.

sn_85 · 06-20-2003, 11:08 AM

well he does say its a 120mm radiator and 120mm fan. a BIM is only 80mm. but even if it is a BIX i'd still get a heatercore. like one from DTeK. as for that pumptank, i dont recommend it because the only size fittings that i see on that sysfx site are 3/8" and the LRWW uses 1/2" fittings. i suggest either a Eheim or Hydor pump.

bigben2k · 06-20-2003, 11:24 AM

Oh yes, I forgot that the BIM is 80mm not 120. A BIX should work fine, but I'd also have to recomend a heatercore.

I worked in a photolab one summer, and my boss couldn't understand why people who have an expensive top-of-the-line Nikon camera, got their film developped at Wall-Mart.

In this case, I wouldn't compromise on the performance of a top of the line waterblock, with an "average" core, and/or a weaker pump, than an Eheim 1048.

tok3n · 06-20-2003, 12:57 PM

The pumptank i'll be getting is sitll in the works - it will be in 1/2" fittings - true 200 gph tested tested with tubing connected as opposed to a lot of aquarium tanks whos gphs ratings are tested with unrestricted flow.

mikoto · 06-20-2003, 03:30 PM

For more detailed analysis by the people who know, this is taken verbatim from email correspondence with Harley @ SystemFx, posted with his permission ("no probs, post were you please")and one caveat; 200GPH pumps are still being tested:

Our 5/16 inlet size is 5/16ID 3/8OD. 3/8 is 3/8ID 7/16OD. 1/2 is 1/2ID 9/16OD
Attached are some images of the pumps with some new improvements.

both 120GPH and 200GPH are 3.5" diameter
120 is 2.1" wide, 200 is 2.6" wide.

120GPH 110/120VAC @ 60Hz 3.4 Watts
200GPH 110/120VAC @ 60Hz 9.5 Watts
Very low temp yield (very low, if any, heat added to system)

120GPH PT-188 comes in 5/16 and 3/8
200GPH PT-288 will come in 3/8 and 1/2

PSI's will vary, but if you need to know
120GPH has a 2' power head
200GPH has a 4' power head

Sproket · 06-20-2003, 07:24 PM

If you want to do UV Dye I would buy a Dangerden BIX!

06-19-2003, 11:16 PM	#1
tok3n Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: US Posts: 29	LRWW Setup I need some feedback on this setup: if it would work well with a LRWW. -200gph pump tank (from www.sysfx.net - not released yet) - about 10-13W -120mm radiator with 120mm fan (108cfm) -1/2" tubing and system -only cpu on the loop - a P4 - but might add a GPU waterblock to the loop inline - not sure yet - would that increase temps or stress the system? Last edited by tok3n; 06-20-2003 at 12:49 AM.

06-20-2003, 07:25 AM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	If the CPU is one of the latest 3.06 to come out (or similar high speed), and/or if you plan to overclock, I'd have to recommend a beefier pump, and a better heatercore than what sounds like a BIM (Black Ice Micro). Otherwise, you're good. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-20-2003, 11:24 AM	#4
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Oh yes, I forgot that the BIM is 80mm not 120. A BIX should work fine, but I'd also have to recomend a heatercore. I worked in a photolab one summer, and my boss couldn't understand why people who have an expensive top-of-the-line Nikon camera, got their film developped at Wall-Mart. In this case, I wouldn't compromise on the performance of a top of the line waterblock, with an "average" core, and/or a weaker pump, than an Eheim 1048. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

06-20-2003, 07:24 PM	#7
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06-20-2003, 11:08 AM	#3
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	well he does say its a 120mm radiator and 120mm fan. a BIM is only 80mm. but even if it is a BIX i'd still get a heatercore. like one from DTeK. as for that pumptank, i dont recommend it because the only size fittings that i see on that sysfx site are 3/8" and the LRWW uses 1/2" fittings. i suggest either a Eheim or Hydor pump.

06-20-2003, 12:57 PM	#5
tok3n Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: US Posts: 29	The pumptank i'll be getting is sitll in the works - it will be in 1/2" fittings - true 200 gph tested tested with tubing connected as opposed to a lot of aquarium tanks whos gphs ratings are tested with unrestricted flow.

06-20-2003, 03:30 PM	#6
mikoto Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: smog Posts: 47	For more detailed analysis by the people who know, this is taken verbatim from email correspondence with Harley @ SystemFx, posted with his permission ("no probs, post were you please")and one caveat; 200GPH pumps are still being tested: Our 5/16 inlet size is 5/16ID 3/8OD. 3/8 is 3/8ID 7/16OD. 1/2 is 1/2ID 9/16OD Attached are some images of the pumps with some new improvements. both 120GPH and 200GPH are 3.5" diameter 120 is 2.1" wide, 200 is 2.6" wide. 120GPH 110/120VAC @ 60Hz 3.4 Watts 200GPH 110/120VAC @ 60Hz 9.5 Watts Very low temp yield (very low, if any, heat added to system) 120GPH PT-188 comes in 5/16 and 3/8 200GPH PT-288 will come in 3/8 and 1/2 PSI's will vary, but if you need to know 120GPH has a 2' power head 200GPH has a 4' power head

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