what psu you guys recommend?

phill9700 · 08-11-2003, 02:33 AM

Well as i have just sold my Q-Tec 550W psu along with my epox 8rda3+ and xp1700 cpu, im wanting to start again, but with a good psu unit, the only problem i have is which one.
i have read the amandtech review about the psu's but i wondered if you guys and gals, could tell me what you are using.
i read in the review that the 3.3v and the 5v lines are the more important so i gather i have to have a good psu for those lines..
any sugguestions or comments?
thanks for the help!
ps. my plan is to buy a barton 2500+ and a nf7-s rev 2 board and use them with my corsair xms 3200LL memory (1 gig of) and use it with my 9700 pro, when i get it back.. im also thinking of buying a thermaltake xaser 3 case, as i had a xaser 2 case and i was impressed by its cooling and ease of putting it together. any further sugguestions? thanks for the help!

airspirit · 08-11-2003, 10:21 AM

Antec TruePower 550W is an outstanding PSU ... I am in LUV with mine, hehe.

phill9700 · 08-12-2003, 01:36 AM

this means people have the same way of thinking!!
now please can you tell me whats so good about this power supply and why i should spend so much money getting it?
what board and cpu setup etc do you use with this psu? have you had any problems at all?

iroc409 · 08-12-2003, 09:06 AM

heh... i run an l&c 420w psu that i paid $20 for about a year ago, and it runs great

Zhentar · 08-12-2003, 09:52 AM

I love my 300w fortron. it uses a 120mm thermally controlled fan so its very quiet. I'd also recommend the new seasonic Super Silencers with their rather nice 78% efficency, I hope to get one of them soon.

phill9700 · 08-12-2003, 10:06 AM

i thinking of going to either an antec true power 550W psu or the antec trueblue 480W psu, but im unsure of the differences between the two psu's, obvously the power is slightly different, but other than that, whats the gag? oh and the price is £15 cheaper as well!

BrianW · 08-12-2003, 08:28 PM

Why hasn't this thread been moved?

BrianW

phill9700 · 08-13-2003, 01:30 AM

why should it have been moved? i couldnt see any other 'part' to put it under.

BrianW · 08-13-2003, 02:12 AM

You know... you are right. I stand corrected.

BrianW

MadDogMe · 08-13-2003, 04:26 AM

Abits NF7 mobos (and all other nforce2 mobos probably???) use the +12v line to power the CPU, so the +5v rail is redundant as far as being the 'most crucial rail'. I'd go for an Antec true power (I did!!

) because they have a voltaged sensed & corrected +12v rail, also their +12v rail is independant from the +5v rail. Most other PSU's have the +5v & +12v 'tied' together so that the current won't increase for the +12v unless the +5v has a heavy load on it (which it won't without a +5v CPU usage). Antec all the way people!!

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Antec TruePower 550W is an outstanding PSU ... I am in LUV with mine, hehe

I second that!!, my 550watter is good for +12v CPU mobos', and +5v CPU mobos' as well

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phill9700 · 08-13-2003, 10:05 AM

but would i really need a 550W psu or would a 480W model be more than enough?
is there any major differences between the true power 550W and the trueblue 480W model? cos if i dont need the extra couple of watts, i will be able to save a little bit of money!

iggiebee · 08-13-2003, 11:32 AM

If you would like to use Peltiers in the future, what's needed to power pelts is not (only) Watts, but rather the Amperage the PSU can push at 12V DC.

For a nice ATX PSU that pushes 12V @ 32 Amps, try the Sparkle Power 550W . It is primarily meant for a dual CPU mobo, but comes with an adapter for regular ATX connector.

I have been using one for the last 6 mo, powering a 226W pelt plus all hardware in the computer with no problems. IMHO it's the best there is, it costs around US$ 100, and sure beats having to use a larger case and an extra PSU.

One piece of advice tho; the molex connectors where an high powered pelt will be connected, need to be filled with dielectric grease to prevent burn out caused by constant microscopic electrical arcing that occurs at such high currents. It surely will melt down the connector over time if not taken care.

Best to solder a nice set of heavier gauge wires in the 12 V output of PSU itself to prevent any problems.

Brians256 · 08-13-2003, 12:18 PM

Just to chime in, I've got a Sparkle 400W (same "real" manufacturer as the Fortron brand) and it works very well although it is loud.

phill9700 · 08-14-2003, 01:39 AM

well the only thing that might change it for me then is that i dont really think i might be 'water cooling' my cpu.. i prefer air as its cheap and can be good enough for most things, i would have considered water cooling as it would be better to keep things cool and perhaps last a fair bit longer than doing it by air..
so would it still be worth the extra ££££ for the 550W or not really?

babyeater · 08-16-2003, 11:51 AM

I have the 480 watt Antec True Power great power supply .
I don't see any need to go for a 550 unles you have pelts or dual cpu

phill9700 · 08-16-2003, 12:09 PM

well i was just wondering as the supply has a slightly different name, i wasnt sure whether or not that would make a difference or not.
its got Antec True Blue for the 480W and then Antec True Power for the 550W.. i was just making sure..
heres the link as this is where i can get them from

cpu city

babyeater · 08-16-2003, 12:15 PM

The one i have is only different to the true blue is that it doesn't have the blue led fans.

phill9700 · 08-16-2003, 12:48 PM

well there i was thinking it might be something important!! thanks for the advice on that..

MadDogMe · 08-17-2003, 03:39 AM

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so would it still be worth the extra ££££ for the 550W or not really?

Depends on the price difference realy. True Powers are good (True Controll are the latest I think), there are some that are cheaper but not up to scratch, I'm not sure what True Blues are, sounds like a True Power with some bling~bling added

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Only reason I got a 550watter is because I want it furure proofed. I brought an Ennermax 350 on the advice that A: Ennermax were good (overpriced and living off of their [previous] good reputation), and B: 350watt was all a AMD CPU needed (they never saw the radions coming!!

). Plus it was the best wattage there was and was a nice round £100 (which I could afford at the time)...

AFAIK you could'nt run a TEC for a CPU off of a PSU cause you need a sustained(not peak!) 30AMPs of +12v, it would power an 80watt TEC for a VPU/GPU though...

phill9700 · 08-17-2003, 03:58 AM

i may as well get the 550 watter then as like you say i wont have to worry about it so much each time i upgrade... thank you for that!!
and also its like you say, they didnt see the radeons coming!

08-11-2003, 02:33 AM	#1
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	what psu you guys recommend? Well as i have just sold my Q-Tec 550W psu along with my epox 8rda3+ and xp1700 cpu, im wanting to start again, but with a good psu unit, the only problem i have is which one. i have read the amandtech review about the psu's but i wondered if you guys and gals, could tell me what you are using. i read in the review that the 3.3v and the 5v lines are the more important so i gather i have to have a good psu for those lines.. any sugguestions or comments? thanks for the help! ps. my plan is to buy a barton 2500+ and a nf7-s rev 2 board and use them with my corsair xms 3200LL memory (1 gig of) and use it with my 9700 pro, when i get it back.. im also thinking of buying a thermaltake xaser 3 case, as i had a xaser 2 case and i was impressed by its cooling and ease of putting it together. any further sugguestions? thanks for the help! __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-11-2003, 10:21 AM	#2
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08-12-2003, 01:36 AM	#3
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	this is good.. this means people have the same way of thinking!! now please can you tell me whats so good about this power supply and why i should spend so much money getting it? what board and cpu setup etc do you use with this psu? have you had any problems at all? __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-12-2003, 09:06 AM	#4
iroc409 Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: midwest side, yo Posts: 596	heh... i run an l&c 420w psu that i paid $20 for about a year ago, and it runs great __________________ :shrug:

08-12-2003, 10:06 AM	#6
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	i thinking of going to either an antec true power 550W psu or the antec trueblue 480W psu, but im unsure of the differences between the two psu's, obvously the power is slightly different, but other than that, whats the gag? oh and the price is £15 cheaper as well! __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-12-2003, 09:52 AM	#5
Zhentar Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 225	I love my 300w fortron. it uses a 120mm thermally controlled fan so its very quiet. I'd also recommend the new seasonic Super Silencers with their rather nice 78% efficency, I hope to get one of them soon.

08-12-2003, 08:28 PM	#7
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Why hasn't this thread been moved? BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-13-2003, 01:30 AM	#8
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	why should it have been moved? i couldnt see any other 'part' to put it under. __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-13-2003, 02:12 AM	#9
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	You know... you are right. I stand corrected. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-13-2003, 10:05 AM	#11
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	i know this might sound stupid... but would i really need a 550W psu or would a 480W model be more than enough? is there any major differences between the true power 550W and the trueblue 480W model? cos if i dont need the extra couple of watts, i will be able to save a little bit of money! __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-13-2003, 11:32 AM	#12
iggiebee Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami, Florida US Posts: 117	If you would like to use Peltiers in the future, what's needed to power pelts is not (only) Watts, but rather the Amperage the PSU can push at 12V DC. For a nice ATX PSU that pushes 12V @ 32 Amps, try the Sparkle Power 550W . It is primarily meant for a dual CPU mobo, but comes with an adapter for regular ATX connector. I have been using one for the last 6 mo, powering a 226W pelt plus all hardware in the computer with no problems. IMHO it's the best there is, it costs around US$ 100, and sure beats having to use a larger case and an extra PSU. One piece of advice tho; the molex connectors where an high powered pelt will be connected, need to be filled with dielectric grease to prevent burn out caused by constant microscopic electrical arcing that occurs at such high currents. It surely will melt down the connector over time if not taken care. Best to solder a nice set of heavier gauge wires in the 12 V output of PSU itself to prevent any problems. __________________ I stop for 1 C. "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1773) Last edited by iggiebee; 08-13-2003 at 11:39 AM.

08-13-2003, 12:18 PM	#13
Brians256 Pro/Staff Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 1,439	Just to chime in, I've got a Sparkle 400W (same "real" manufacturer as the Fortron brand) and it works very well although it is loud.

08-14-2003, 01:39 AM	#14
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	well the only thing that might change it for me then is that i dont really think i might be 'water cooling' my cpu.. i prefer air as its cheap and can be good enough for most things, i would have considered water cooling as it would be better to keep things cool and perhaps last a fair bit longer than doing it by air.. so would it still be worth the extra ££££ for the 550W or not really? __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-16-2003, 11:51 AM	#15
babyeater Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 42	I have the 480 watt Antec True Power great power supply . I don't see any need to go for a 550 unles you have pelts or dual cpu

08-16-2003, 12:09 PM	#16
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	well i was just wondering as the supply has a slightly different name, i wasnt sure whether or not that would make a difference or not. its got Antec True Blue for the 480W and then Antec True Power for the 550W.. i was just making sure.. heres the link as this is where i can get them from cpu city __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-16-2003, 12:15 PM	#17
babyeater Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 42	The one i have is only different to the true blue is that it doesn't have the blue led fans.

08-16-2003, 12:48 PM	#18
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	well there i was thinking it might be something important!! thanks for the advice on that.. __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

08-17-2003, 03:58 AM	#20
phill9700 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northam, South West Of England Posts: 155	i may as well get the 550 watter then as like you say i wont have to worry about it so much each time i upgrade... thank you for that!! and also its like you say, they didnt see the radeons coming! __________________ NF7-S Rev 2 XP1700 @ 2.45ghz (11.5x213fsb) @ 1.8vcore (bios setting) Memory timings at cas 2 2-2-6 @ 2.7Vdimm (memory divider set to 3/3) IBM Deskstar 80gig ata100 hard drive Pioneer dvd-rom/dvd-rw Xaser 2 case modded with 120mm side fan Thermalright SLK-900U + 92mmm Tornado fan Vantec 205SL Fan controller (controlling the 120mm fan and Tornado) Enermax 460W PSU Geforce 3 Ti 200 64mb

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