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Unread 09-15-2003, 07:28 AM   #1
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Default Maze 3 or Maze 4?

which is better? I have to decide which one to put first in series for a dually system. I'd like to put the better performing one on the main cpu.
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Unread 09-15-2003, 09:08 AM   #2
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I'm told the Maze4 is better. though certainly not as good as any impingment blocks.

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Unread 09-15-2003, 10:18 PM   #3
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maze3: tried and true, plain shaped, better then effective, good for its price.

maze4: disputable performance, cosmetically attractive, effective.
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Unread 09-18-2003, 11:35 AM   #4
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Maze3: decent performance at a high price

Maze4: crappier performance at a high price, but using less materials so there is a larger net profit per block

It is a marketing ploy. Get the Maze3, or buy a better block. The Maze4 is an overpriced piece of crap.
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Maze3: decent performance at a high price

Maze4: crappier performance at a high price, but using less materials so there is a larger net profit per block

It is a marketing ploy. Get the Maze3, or buy a better block. The Maze4 is an overpriced piece of crap.
Will you please just get to the point!
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Unread 09-18-2003, 05:42 PM   #6
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BUT the official word per the DDen website... maze4 performs better. If I see it in writing, I must believe it.
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Unread 09-18-2003, 06:42 PM   #7
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Maze3: decent performance at a high price

Maze4: crappier performance at a high price, but using less materials so there is a larger net profit per block

It is a marketing ploy. Get the Maze3, or buy a better block. The Maze4 is an overpriced piece of crap.
I don't see how you can call a Maze3/4 overpriced. They're amoung the cheapest modern blocks and are quite a good deal for the money. Performancewise the WW beats it, but not by $25 worth IMO, not unless you must have that extra few C.
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Unread 09-18-2003, 06:59 PM   #8
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I have to agree with redleader there, if you're going to call $40 high priced, what isn't?
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Unread 09-23-2003, 11:14 PM   #9
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I have both and tested extensively with both.

Maze 3 outperformed Maze 4 by about 5C! Yes, you read that right.
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Unread 09-24-2003, 11:44 PM   #10
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with what pump .. flowrate and barb sizes?
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Unread 09-25-2003, 12:18 AM   #11
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I have both and tested extensively with both.

Maze 3 outperformed Maze 4 by about 5C! Yes, you read that right.
i'm not surprised to hear people say things like that, any ways can you give some specifics about your setup?
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Unread 09-26-2003, 01:08 AM   #12
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Hydor L30 pump
.5 inch ID tygon tubing.
Black Ice Xtreme

Flow diagram:

Pump -> Rad -> Block -> Res -> Pump

The only place the flow slows down would ne in the rad, and the res. The tubing is pretty straight for the most part.

I hooked up the entire system and took it apart 3 times for each block ensuring I get accurate results. The Maze 3 outperformed the 4 by 5C running at 23C ambient....the temps would be:

Maze 3:

30-32 idle to load on all 3 tests.

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35-39 idle to load on all 3 tests.
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Unread 09-26-2003, 01:32 AM   #13
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I have to agree with redleader there, if you're going to call $40 high priced, what isn't?
nasty pin block

58.31 CAD = 43.1897 USD
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